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NOte you see on vimeo about this video
Too pissed off to say anything 
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We should thank God for smart phones with cameras and social media. More horrific things used to happen in Pakistan in 70's and 80's and no outsider would know. Now at least these jerk polciticans cannot deny cause everything is video recorded
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I was watching some more videos on-line of how they are now trying to make excuses, and say that no one ordered them to beat this guy up, but they wanted to do this on their own to show how loyal they are to these “SHAREEF” kaandaan!!!
And these women who are speaking on behalf of the party, it is as if they are in a fish market selling fish!!!
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For that say the military should take over and rid the country of the corrupt politicians, I would say to them that the military is responsible for the state of the country. The have ruled the country for about half of its existence and after their rule corrupt politicians always come back, why? because the military likes and maintains the status quo, it works with the corrupt politicians. If the military come into power and did a proper job for even 2 years then there will never be any need for the military to ever come back to power again. But the army has no interest to improve Pakistan because then they would lose the ability to rule Pakistan after every few years.
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just watched the video on yt.
These ba****** are beardless Talibans.
Re: Shahbaz Sharif's daughter gets bakery sweeper beaten
For that say the military should take over and rid the country of the corrupt politicians, I would say to them that the military is responsible for the state of the country. The have ruled the country for about half of its existence and after their rule corrupt politicians always come back, why? because the military likes and maintains the status quo, it works with the corrupt politicians. If the military come into power and did a proper job for even 2 years then there will never be any need for the military to ever come back to power again. But the army has no interest to improve Pakistan because then they would lose the ability to rule Pakistan after every few years.
Nice one. What you wrote is the classical defence of thug politicians. Fact is that, if it was up to politicians, especially thug politicians of 1990s (BB and NS), Pakistan would have been economical hell and would have got divided into several parts by now.
It is surprising how these thug politicians and their ‘chalay chamchay’ lie bluntly on TV and to masses that corrupt politicians gets elected because people had no time to develop, else they would realise and elect honest politicians.
No one ask them question that when they make such absurd claims, what they really mean? Is it that the politicians (they themselves) are doing corruption, showing dishonesty, looting and plundering the country, abusing power and maltreating masses, doing mismanagement, etc ... and behaving like Kings, dictators, and dogs, then is it because military is forcing them to do all this?
Actually, whatever little Pakistan developed and economically progressed after partition and is still surviving is because of several military rules. Economical progresses during their time played as adhesive in keeping Pakistan united, else at time of partition world was expecting that Pakistan will economically collapse and would beg India to re-take Pakistan.
Even though all military rule gave economical progress to Pakistan, only military rule that harmed Pakistan, not economically but socially, was Zia’s rule, else even socially all military rule was good for Pakistan.
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The thread is once again getting derailed by Saleem bhai and co.
Can someone remove the off topic posts and create a new thread "civilian vs army government"? Please don't let this issue slide down in this futile conversation.
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The beaten lad should be given a monetary compensation by the people responsible for the beating and a public apology … According to Shar’iah law …
Lobby for the lad … Let’s see if the public can get him a compensation … And a court case … This police thing is a joke … The police were there themselves …
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Nice one. What you wrote is the classical defence of thug politicians. Fact is that, if it was up to politicians, especially thug politicians of 1990s (BB and NS), Pakistan would have been economical hell and would have got divided into several parts by now.
It is surprising how these thug politicians and their ‘chalay chamchay’ lie bluntly on TV and to masses that corrupt politicians gets elected because people had no time to develop, else they would realise and elect honest politicians.
No one ask them question that when they make such absurd claims, what they really mean? Is it that the politicians (they themselves) are doing corruption, showing dishonesty, looting and plundering the country, abusing power and maltreating masses, doing mismanagement, etc ... and behaving like Kings, dictators, and dogs, then is it because military is forcing them to do all this?
Actually, whatever little Pakistan developed and economically progressed after partition and is still surviving is because of several military rules. Economical progresses during their time played as adhesive in keeping Pakistan united, else at time of partition world was expecting that Pakistan will economically collapse and would beg India to re-take Pakistan.
Even though all military rule gave economical progress to Pakistan, only military rule that harmed Pakistan, not economically but socially, was Zia’s rule, else even socially all military rule was good for Pakistan.
I am not disputing that BB and NS both failed and that the 1990's was the worst period for Pakistan as we started following behind Indian in this period thanks to BB and NS.
My point is that if the country is failing and we are headed for a revolution, the army then steps in and just does some cosmetic surgery leaving the cancer intact. You need to read the next few words very carefully. The problem in Pakistan is not of the personalities but the actual issue is of the system. A faulty system if it is not corrected will produce faulty leaders.
What we need in Pakistan is wholesale reforms in the system to make it viable. The army does not touch the faulty system and just addresses the symptons. So although temporarily we may feel happier the cancer is still active beneath the surface and reappears as soon the army disappears. Also involvement of the army in running the country is corrupting the institution.
What we need are true leaders who are not afraid to make the difficult choices. We need people who can take on the status quo head on. We need reformers. That is leadership.
If Ayub, Zia or Musharraff had succeeded in their roles then you would not be asking for the army to takeover now. Since you are asking for the army to takeover means that the army has failed in the past.
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Would much rather see Showbaz’s daughter in jail! Why don’t we write a few good luck messages for the poor guy and some one on this forum in Lahore have them delivered? Any one know which bakery he is from?
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Pakistan was in a much worse state as a country than in 2007 with large scale rebellions and anger in Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan. The army officers kids are just as bad as this. Most elite people are like this in Pakistan. They always want their own way.
I am not disputing that BB and NS both failed and that the 1990's was the worst period for Pakistan as we started following behind Indian in this period thanks to BB and NS.
However my point is that if the country is failing and then we are headed for a revolution, however the army steps in and just does some cosmetic surgery leaving the cancer intact. You need to read the next few words very carefully. The problem in Pakistan is not the personalities but the actual issue is of the system. A faulty system if it is not corrected will produce faulty leaders.
What we need in Pakistan is wholesale reforms in the system to make it viable. The army does not touch the faulty system and just addresses the symptons. So although temporarily we may feel happier the cancer is still active beneath the surface and reappears as soon the army disappears. Also involvement of the army in running the country is corrupting the institution.
What we need are true leaders who are not afraid to make the difficult choices. We need people who can take on the status quo head on. We need reformers. That is leadership.
If Ayub, Zia or Musharraff had succeeded in their roles then you would not be asking for the army to takeover now.
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Would much rather see Showbaz's daughter in jail! Why don't we write a few good luck messages for the poor guy and some one on this forum in Lahore have them delivered? Any one know which bakery he is from?
‘Sweet Tooth’ in T-Block market, DHA Phase 2, Lahore. Shahbaz Sharif and Yousuf Raza Gillani both have houses nearby.
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Would much rather see Showbaz's daughter in jail! Why don't we write a few good luck messages for the poor guy and some one on this forum in Lahore have them delivered? Any one know which bakery he is from?
As well as a public apology and compensation ... And after a fair trial ... Yes ..
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The video should be sent around internationally and should be a talking point. If the Sharifs ever have a press conference they should be asked about his incident. Video footage should be sent to the homes of the guilty and the police station that the officers are from.
Pakistan is such a cruel country to live in and I consider myself lucky my parents left it. Some people would find that shocking but so many people want to escape living there. This is not a one off incident but sadly one of many.
I remember commenting on how I felt sorry for police with the bomb attacks by militants when one of the guys i was talking to said they had no sympathy for the police being killed. There are hardly any good police men in Pakistan.
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You can never generalise. Even within the police there are good and bad people.
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Terebina, they have been raised with haram ka paisa .. not a cell in their blood knows what humanity is .. they will inshallah pay for every bit of their zulm .. when Allah will tackle them and inshallah that day is very very very near..
I get that they have money... Paris Hilton also has money but would never, ever do that. Maybe because we have legitimate rules in this country? I'm not sure but I can't fathom a world where you don't get your way so you beat up an innocent person just following the rules and the cops participate.. I just can't. It makes me embarrassed to say I'm Pakistani if that's what they behave like.
Re: Shahbaz Sharif's daughter gets bakery sweeper beaten
The thread is once again getting derailed by Saleem bhai and co.
Can someone remove the off topic posts and create a new thread "civilian vs army government"? Please don't let this issue slide down in this futile conversation.
Miss, I think you are getting confused. I am not derailing the thread, There are people who considers that Pakistan should be ruled by political thugs and that army is cause of corruption amongst political thugs.
I do not believe that. I believe that army is best solution for Pakistan as most Pakistani politicians are criminals and this event involving Shahbaz's daughter shows that they are criminals who do not deserve to rule Pakistan, rather they deserve to be in prison or hanging with rope around their neck.
If we will only discuss what she (Shahbaz's daughter Rabia) did then it is irrelevant, as most Pakistani Politicians from all parties (especially Politicians with rich and feudal backgrounds) and their kids are doing in Pakistan everyday what Rabia did. So whatever she did is neither important nor unusual. Thus, along with discussing what she did, we have to discuss if these politicians should be ruling the country or not, and why not. That is what I am doing in my posts. My post on this thread is in every way related to the event, as whatever I wrote is result of this and similar events involving corrupt politicians and their family members abusing state power entrusted to them by people by looting the country and maltreating same people who entrusted them with state power.
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Pakistan was in a much worse state as a country than in 2007 with large scale rebellions and anger in Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan. The army officers kids are just as bad as this. Most elite people are like this in Pakistan. They always want their own way.
Do you really think that all on this forum are void of anything in their upper chamber ... or live on Mars?
What I know, In 2007, Pakistan was not only economically and socially much better state than what it is today, but it was even more peaceful and secure then today. One can understand that peace and security by knowing that Pakistan had election in Feb 2008 all over Pakistan and nowhere election was postponed due to peace and security reason. Actually, Pakistan would have had the election in 2007 but it did not happen not due to peace and security problem, but due to BB accident.
In 2007, even in NWFP, all politicians were campaigning freely and parties representing religiously retards lost the election all over. Today, those who won 2007 election do not even dare to visit their constituencies.
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I am not disputing that BB and NS both failed and that the 1990's was the worst period for Pakistan as we started following behind Indian in this period thanks to BB and NS.
My point is that if the country is failing and we are headed for a revolution, the army then steps in and just does some cosmetic surgery leaving the cancer intact. You need to read the next few words very carefully. The problem in Pakistan is not of the personalities but the actual issue is of the system. A faulty system if it is not corrected will produce faulty leaders.
What we need in Pakistan is wholesale reforms in the system to make it viable. The army does not touch the faulty system and just addresses the symptons. So although temporarily we may feel happier the cancer is still active beneath the surface and reappears as soon the army disappears. Also involvement of the army in running the country is corrupting the institution.
What we need are true leaders who are not afraid to make the difficult choices. We need people who can take on the status quo head on. We need reformers. That is leadership.
If Ayub, Zia or Musharraff had succeeded in their roles then you would not be asking for the army to takeover now. Since you are asking for the army to takeover means that the army has failed in the past.
A lot you wrote is true that army did not persecuted corrupts the way they should have done. They should have done something about developing institutions much better than what they did and persecuting corrupt politicians punishing them severely, but maybe they did not do so because they may have thought that they would never give these politicians a chance to rule the country again. Wrong assumption, as in the end they always had to leave.
That is one mistake they always repeated, but nevertheless, they always gave Pakistan good governance and did a lot to boost economy, bring social justice, increase law and order, developed agriculture, industry as well as infrastructure, etc and were by far ruled the country much better than politicians.