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Its culture a 100%. No religion in my opinion teaches any society at any time to be sexist. Be just towards each gender, but don't be sexist.
May be religions don't actively teach to be sexist, but there are views that religions failed to curb the attitudes leading to sexist behavior.
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May be religions don't actively teach to be sexist, but there are views that religions failed to curb the attitudes leading to sexist behavior.
Give me an example?
Yes, there is one thing which I don't understand that where they say to give twice as much food to men, or when a baby boy is born then to slaughter 2 animals instead of one only when a daughter is born.
But other than that, I do understand where in Islam women shouldn't be president or something like that (because they're emotional beings) and may not make correct judgements at all times.
But then again, that's for general population as not all women are emotional nor are all men the same.
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Give me an example? Yes, there is one thing which I don't understand that where they say to give twice as much food to men, or when a baby boy is born then to slaughter 2 animals instead of one only when a daughter is born. But other than that, I do understand where in Islam women shouldn't be president or something like that (because they're emotional beings) and may not make correct judgements at all times. But then again, that's for general population as not all women are emotional nor are all men the same.
probably theverse in Quran about half evidence of a woman (though if its read in full context, it doesn't sound sexist).
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Do religions contributes to these attitudes? Are religions just put their guidance keeping in view the already set and accepted criteria of the society where these religions flourished?
Religion definitely contributes to these attitudes. As for the latter question, I think it depends on each specific society. In some societies, religion simply supports the already set and accepted beliefs and expectations of the society. An example of this is my own country. Islam simply supported many of the already set beliefs of Pashtunwali, so in the case of Afghanistan religion is not solely responsible for society's attitude.
However, in other societies, religion does change and set the criteria for the society. A good example of the spread of Islam to various societies in sub saharan Africa. Many traditional African cultural beliefs and expectations, especially in relation to gender, differ vastly from Islam. Consequently, many of their current beliefs are heavily influenced by religion.
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Religion definitely contributes to these attitudes. As for the latter question, I think it depends on each specific society. In some societies, religion simply supports the already set and accepted beliefs and expectations of the society. An example of this is my own country. Islam simply supported many of the already set beliefs of Pashtunwali, so in the case of Afghanistan religion is not solely responsible for society's attitude.
However, in other societies, religion does change and set the criteria for the society. A good example of the spread of Islam to various societies in sub saharan Africa. Many traditional African cultural beliefs and expectations, especially in relation to gender, differ vastly from Islam. Consequently, many of their current beliefs are heavily influenced by religion.
From the examples you know, how religion in African countries influenced the attitude? is it positive or negative?
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From the examples you know, how religion in African countries influenced the attitude? is it positive or negative?
I believe this is a matter of opinion but I would say that the influence has been mostly positive. An example of this is the treatment of women. In many tribal societies in sub saharan Africa, prior to the spread of Islam (and Christianity), polygamy was not limited to four wives (some African chiefs were known to have up to 10 wives) and also allowed the practice of taking numerous concubines. The wives and concubines had no rights in terms inheritance and were rather viewed as property. In fact, when a chief died, his wives and concubines were "inherited" by his successor. Islam and Christianity have caused these practices to decrease greatly (although they have not disappeared completely).
There are also negative aspects. However, these seem to be more related to people's interpretation of religion and their actions rather than the religion itself. In the region, both Islam and Christianity (yes, Christianity too) are sometimes distorted to suit the interests of tribal leaders and this often has a devastating impact on the people.
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Sexist societies are the societies where women are economically, politically and socially repressed through a system. She is considered intellectually inferior and her status is reduced to nothing but a being only made for completing the sexual union, reproducing and living a life of servitude. She’s just an angel in the house, be it in the face of mother, sister, wife, daughter. Other than looking after her family, she is not expected to serve the society as the society she is part of is inherently beastly and lusting after her female body.
I still vividly remember when I made my first ever political contribution in the Politics forum, a certain regular member within a minute posted a link to Houseold and Cooking forum as a reply to my long post. I could’ve got intimidated and embarrassed since I was literally the only female posting during election frenzy season and in a room full of politically charged, brash, aggressive menn. But for my own sake I took major offence in that cheap sexist shot, I put my feet down and showed that sucker that he chose the person to mess with, and the woman he was trying shut up will leave his sorry self absolutely speechless, and without blowing my own trumpet, I’d like to believe I did manage to achieve that at the end. 
West has some serious problem with sexual objectification of women in the commercial sphere, however as a society, it is significantly less misogynistic and predatory than some of the developing nations. I am a young female and I can take a stroll any time of the day in the UK, aimlessly wander around in some of the busiest places in the Capital, and happily get lost in the streets of Central London or drive in the middle of the night. But I can do none of these things in Pakistan without having men turn around to pay a second glance, even when I am by choice dressed like a Plain Jane from PTV days. Same applies to Arab countries that I had visited.
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an excellent question :k:
i think sexist societes are those where women donot have the same freedom as men. a place where a woman cannot make her own decision and where she cannot live independently, where there is double standards in how people view morality in men and women. unfortunately, there are many societies which are sexist. if a woman must depend on a man in a society, thats a sexist society.
i think the reason is both religion and culture.
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probably theverse in Quran about half evidence of a woman (though if its read in full context, it doesn't sound sexist).
Half evidence?
Hmm I cant recall that verse.
Anyway, whether u think it's because of religion or not, its ur opinion. But if it's because of religion, do u think God is sexist? I mean I only say this because that religion and Quran is a message of God.
But trust me, I do feel a bunch of sexism towards me.
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How do you define a sexist society?
Dang! I thought you were discussing 'sexiEst' societies. Now that would have been an interesting topic.
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lols and what are the sexiest societies in the world?
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Well, that is what I wanted to know myself. :)
As Mushtaq Yousufi once said:
"hum bahoo baitiyan kya janein".
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ok, i got your point. It seems you think i took the topic wrongly.
My post above had a point that in west, it has to be women only, the entertainers for men as sex servants. Do you see such stuff from men entertaining women?
Well, they are working hard to bring “equality” by bringing homosexuality in their society, in this sense.
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Sexist society would be where someone is not considered to be qualified or able enough to do something or say something just because of that person’s gender.
Almost all societies are sexist to varying degrees.
According to one set of rankings, Pakistan is ranked second worst in a ranking of 135 countries in terms of gender gap.
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The question is was Pakistani society always under that condition (second worst in 135) or it deteriorated / improved over the centuries?
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The question is was Pakistani society always under that condition (second worst in 135) or it deteriorated / improved over the centuries?
You ask too many questions. :P
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ok, i got your point. It seems you think i took the topic wrongly. My post above had a point that in west, it has to be women only, the entertainers for men as sex servants. Do you see such stuff from men entertaining women?
Well, they are working hard to bring "equality" by bringing homosexuality in their society, in this sense.
Though I couldn't open the lyrics of the song 'Black Eyed Peas', but in Indian eastern society and even songs from lollywood are not encouraging as well.
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You ask too many questions. :P
Auditor believe in Allah, rest they Audit :p
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Auditor believe in Allah, rest they Audit :p
Okay. One answer to all your questions:
Sexist statement: Female audit staff would not do any late sittings.
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Okay. One answer to all your questions:
Sexist statement: Female audit staff would not do any late sittings.
Oh don't make my blood boil. Once this lady assistant of mine, kept on fighting with Cash Flow all the day and it didn't tied. In evening, I said lets review it together and we kept on scrutinising all the schedules and Trial Balance. Finally, it was 8 pm when we found that there was some error in taking a positive amount as negative. In between, I kept on saying that if you wish , you can leave for home, but she kept on insiting 'aaj to akr ke hi jaon gi'.
Khair, we dropped her at home and it was 9:30 pm when she reached home. By 1030 pm, I got a call from her father that ladies are not supposed to be out for that time. I had to calm down him that I'll take care for next time. Next day she excused about her abba's behavior and told that her mother wanted to call me, after she told her that she herself insisted to stay.