Re: Sex Education & Muslim Youth
What have angels got to do with this discussion? Angels don't eat and drink either. Should we stay away from eating and drinking too. What kind of absurd tangents you guys keep bringing to a discussion??
Anyway, enough time wasted here on stupid statements that are then retracted or claimed to be "misstated" or whatever.
Anyway, here is a gem ... {A quote from me psyah regarding not letting children touch their privates}
I am going to include this in a future article - Why the Government Needs to License People Who Want to Have Babies.
Masha Allah, teach your kids that parts of their body are disgusting. Subhan Allah.
Peace Faisal
The act of sex is not important for our growth as humans, to be pious or otherwise. Sex has indeed been made halal for us to be enjoined with out partners.
To explain why angels were used as an example was, if you follow the thread back a few posts I was presenting an argument that 'sex is a lower function of the person, i.e. it is part of our animalistic natures to be sex driven and sex needing' to support this argument I presented the contrast of pure beings not requiring sex and also a very direct rationalisation why we cannot possibly say that God takes a son nor can we say that God was born, nauzdubillah. It is because the acts that bring about such beautiful gifts as children is a debasing act. It should be a sign for us that we are lowly creatures.
We have no right to be arrogant when we see the method of our entry in to this world. It was humbling for me to see my sons being born and I realised that we all go through such a process. Is it not a sign for us to reflect and realise our own level?
The act of sex is considered raunchy and it is a taboo for good reason. If we remove these taboos we are being careless. In fact the idea where 'sex' was to be taken down to normal levels can be found in a book called "A Brave New World" where people are no longer required to get married and sex is called "engaging" and people are free to arrange a date with anyone they like and within the confines of that date everything is done. There is not risk of disease nor children because they have been genetically engineered and reproduction has been made "haraam" .. in fact the word 'mother' is a curse.
In the hadith there is a sign of the Day of Judgment that there will be much promiscuity ... I see that as a direct result of lowering the taboo of sex. We need to remember even if 'sex' were to have been a completely 'clean' act ... it is still haram if done without a legal partner. Haram should be prevented and the things that lead to haram should be shunned. Such as touching oneself. Self-sexual exploration and kissing and the "harmless" things associated to "love" are precursors to the act of sex and these increase the "risk" of sex ... especially for young teenagers who have not necessarily learned the art of self-control or correctly distinguishing from right and wrong. Westernised Muslims have an even harder task to sift through secular unIslamic values from those that are compatible with Islam, especially if those individuals are from parents who are ignorant of the Western society whilst living in it.
These days the western culture is spreading world wide and such problems are finding their way in to villages.
In complete irony your future article "Why the Government Needs to License People Who Want to Have Babies." Islam does just this ... its called the Nikkah. Okay I understand you want to put it through a driving test ... lets see if they are capable of letting their children enjoy sex and only then we will let them have kids.
The act of sex itself should be a private matter and children are often repulsed by the thought of their parents undertaking the act. It is not because the society teaches them such things, it is because it is the nature of children to view 'sex' as a 'fight' or something harmful ... by nature, the ideas by such contemporary prevailing winds want to educate children out of their natural innocence. And that is exactly what innocence is ... it is a limited often incorrect view of the nature of reality in this case their own sexual function.
So hopefully there are no tangents here ... just try to see it from this perspective but you don't have to agree with it ... you can teach and you are free to do so without my saying your children in whatever manner you feel fit ... inshaAllah our intention is to make 'pious' children by the Mercy of Allah (SWT) we may achieve this.