Just listened to the radio and they were saying they want to start teaching kids in 1-3 grade about sex, gays and lesbians. They said they want to teach that it is ok to be gay and fall in love with same sex.
I think it is a horrible idea! Kids will think it is ok to do it and will start “programming” themselves and maybe having their child flirt from that age, thinking it is ok and normal.
I do not have kids just yet,but I am very worried. I think schools should leave that all to their parents.
I don’t hate gays,but I do not feel it is normal to have same sex relationship nor would I want my kids to be gay so I do not want them to think it is normal and it is acceptable. I certainly would understand if schools were teaching other kids not hate on gay people,but kids at this age don’t really understand sex and love. They have no right to program kids with theories and false information.
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I’ve been hearing a lot about this from Canadian friends and family and I’m floored…it’s NOTHING like this in the American public school system, at least not in Texas where I live!!! I would be livid too…grade 1-3 is WAY to young for such explicit material. And even the content for grades 4-7 is questionable to say the least.
Parents against Ontario sex-ed threaten to pull kids out of school | Toronto Star
From what I’ve read up on, this is primarily in Ontario, or is it for all of Canada?
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I guess a better option would have been to participate in the protest which was done by lots of parents in peel, durham, GTA region rather than posting here.
I am in same boat, not even married but this is something which bothers me too. And I did my best to let everyone in my circle to ask them to raise the voice about it. To my surprise, when this protest was giong on there were higher number of hindu/asian people compared to muslims which tells us that we (muslims or say south asian people) love to have things imposed on us.
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I guess a better option would have been to participate in the protest which was done by lots of parents in peel, durham, GTA region rather than posting here.
I am in same boat, not even married but this is something which bothers me too. And I did my best to let everyone in my circle to ask them to raise the voice about it. To my surprise, when this protest was giong on there were higher number of hindu/asian people compared to muslims which tells us that we (muslims or say south asian people) love to have things imposed on us.
Very astute point...this may be a generalization, but I agree that for the most part our southasian/desi/Muslim population is extremely apathetic when it comes to voting/civic issues/activism. Everyone complains, but very few actually do anything to make change.
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@MustafaQuraishi - I'm not sure where you are getting your stats but I found several Muslim parents, at least in my social circle and community, that were in an uproar and participating in the multiple protest activities that took place.
My child stayed home from school for the 5 days that were designated as "protest days" as did many of her muslim friends.
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I am talking about mississauga to be specific. I saw more asians, hindus against these things and less Pakistani … Yes all of the parents (that i know) didn’t send their kids to school for 5 days but i didn’t see any of them in person protesting against new curriculum.
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How do parents of kids in countries where it is already established deal with it? Reading about UK sex ed and it is utterly depressing. Teaching 5 years old.
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Learning about gay people won't make your child gay. People are born that way, and learning about people with different orientations only makes one a more open minded and kind person.
I grew up in Canada, and I have to say the sex ed was fairly gentle. There is certainly nothing vulgar. A lot of the content includes things that most Pakistani parents would never discuss with their children anyway, so it is a good thing. To learn about puberty, different orientations, how to be healthy and how to treat each other is a valuable thing.
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grades 1-3 is pushing too far
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Shame on those Hindus for protesting this. Maybe the Muslims were more liberal and tolerant.
OP and folks with similar attitudes are the real danger to kids. OP things being gay is "not normal". So it would be OP that wouod be programming his or her kids. The schools are merely teaching that if someone is gay, that is OK. Just as if someone is hetero, it is normal for them, so too is it normal if someone is gay. For them.
Kids would be better off being "programmed" to be tolerant than to be ignorant.
So what if people start protesting and taking their christian kids out of school if schools start teaching one should he tolerant towards Hindus Muslims etc. For some christian parents may balk at the prospect that their kids are being "encouraged" to be tolerant towards other religions. That they are being taught it is normal to be muslim or hindu. How dare the schools teach that.
Anyone signing up for protests?
PS - Re grades 1 to 3 being too early, the devil is in the details. Depends what they are being taught. If they are simply taught to be respectful of ALL types of families, more power to the schools. Unless they are teaching details of sexual intercourse, nothing to get bent out of shape. Live and let live. A wise man Jesus had once said - do unto others...
Guruvayurappa!
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^I think parents are more worried about kids wondering about the sexual acts between same sex people than their orientation.
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I agree with Aqsa. I grew up in Onrario as well and am open to having healthy conversations about anything my kids would be curious about. I believe that's how they have to learn. There was a lot of confusion when I was younger because our Pakistani parents just really didn't know how to approach these kinds of talks in better ways. I think our generation will have more understanding of the environment to know a bit better. However there is still something unnerving about grades 1-3. If I remember correctly our sex Ed didn't start till grades 7+ and then more sexually detailed in high school but it was still gentle. Does anyone know the curriculum for these grades? I just disagree that's it is being shoved down parents throats whether they like it or not, with kids being that young especially, parents should have the right to chose how/when their kids are exposed before a certain age. However if the cirriculims are more about bullying and tolerance for other people, rather than sex Ed which is more important at that age considering how bad bullying is in both Canada and the states, then that's something they should clarify? I guess I'm wondering what's even going to be taught?
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As for the same sex conversation, how is it different than teaching your kids about regular relationships? How many is us knew pre-marital sex and bf/gf relationships were a big no no in our Muslim households. Or drinking and drugs as well, all bad bad bad. Isn't it the same thing? It's more work for us unfortunately yes, but it's really no different. Scary territory for parents, but not different in my opinion atleast.
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I grew up in Ontario. From grade one through post-secondary.
This is not about having open and healthy conversations about sexuality…it’s about planting seeds… it’s about right and wrong…it’s about having the right to teach your kids what YOU believe and raising them in the faith that YOU believe.
Yes…the curriculum used to be quite generic and presentable. I had no confusion while I was growing up about what the functionality of each body part was and the process of reproduction as a result of segregated education in 6th and 7th grades. My parents did not have a need to do anything except ask me if I had any questions after the classes were delivered in school. Some parts of personal grooming my mother elaborated on as per the rules of our deen but that was it.
Those of you that have read all the hoopla may not have dug into the details. Please do so. See if you would like to have your child taught that sex is considered a “recreational activity” at such a tender age with no mention of marriage. Think about whether you would want an entire generation growing up with such a mindset. And that’s just one example. Follow the link in the excerpt below and scroll to the bottom to see what children will be taught at what age.
According to my sensitivities there is too much being taught, too early. And too much of it goes against what my faith teaches…so I’m not in favour…but the defining factor was when my 12 year old daughter and I talked about this and she said, “Eww Mama, I don’t want to hear about all this with my friends around! If I need to know something we can look it up in the books you’ve given me and we can talk about it like we did before. I hope khala is going to keep the boys out of school on the days that this stuff is taught cuz they’re just too little to know this stuff.”
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wait till you see what they want to teach in grades 1 - 3: Consent!!!
honestly…consent in grade 1.
in grade three, when the kids are 8 years old they will be taught that “Gender is a changeable social construct”
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I am talking about mississauga to be specific. I saw more asians, hindus against these things and less Pakistani ... Yes all of the parents (that i know) didn't send their kids to school for 5 days but i didn't see any of them in person protesting against new curriculum.
I'm not sure how you made this determination but I know of many people in Mississauga that were present at not one but several protests.
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I would rather homeschool my kids until like age 12 or so. And this is not about preaching tolerance of gays and lesbians. 6-7 yr old are not racist or homophobic. They are just freakin kids who can't even tell their ass apart from their dick. How can you expect them to understand such complicated issues at such a young age? This will only confuse them. I understand the media and internet is sexualizing things but thats the parents job to control what is appropriate for kids to view or not esp. when they are Grade 1 or 2.
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I would rather homeschool my kids until like age 12 or so. And this is not about preaching tolerance of gays and lesbians. 6-7 yr old are not racist or homophobic. They are just freakin kids who can't even tell their ass apart from their dick. How can you expect them to understand such complicated issues at such a young age? This will only confuse them. I understand the media and internet is sexualizing things but thats the parents job to control what is appropriate for kids to view or not esp. when they are Grade 1 or 2.
agreed!
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^I think parents are more worried about kids wondering about the sexual acts between same sex people than their orientation.
Parents should be EQUALLY worried about kids wondering about sexual acts between different sex people.
Orientation ka sawal ji nahin uthta
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I grew up in Ontario. From grade one through post-secondary. This is not about having open and healthy conversations about sexuality....it's about planting seeds... it's about right and wrong.....it's about having the right to teach your kids what YOU believe and raising them in the faith that YOU believe.
Yes....the curriculum used to be quite generic and presentable. I had no confusion while I was growing up about what the functionality of each body part was and the process of reproduction as a result of segregated education in 6th and 7th grades. My parents did not have a need to do anything except ask me if I had any questions after the classes were delivered in school. Some parts of personal grooming my mother elaborated on as per the rules of our deen but that was it.
Those of you that have read all the hoopla may not have dug into the details. Please do so. See if you would like to have your child taught that sex is considered a "recreational activity" at such a tender age with no mention of marriage. Think about whether you would want an entire generation growing up with such a mindset. And that's just one example. Follow the link in the excerpt below and scroll to the bottom to see what children will be taught at what age.
According to my sensitivities there is too much being taught, too early. And too much of it goes against what my faith teaches....so I'm not in favour....but the defining factor was when my 12 year old daughter and I talked about this and she said, "Eww Mama, I don't want to hear about all this with my friends around! If I need to know something we can look it up in the books you've given me and we can talk about it like we did before. I hope khala is going to keep the boys out of school on the days that this stuff is taught cuz they're just too little to know this stuff."
I grew up in Ontario. From grade one through post-secondary. This is not about having open and healthy conversations about sexuality....it's about planting seeds... it's about right and wrong.....it's about having the right to teach your kids what YOU believe and raising them in the faith that YOU believe.
Yes....the curriculum used to be quite generic and presentable. I had no confusion while I was growing up about what the functionality of each body part was and the process of reproduction as a result of segregated education in 6th and 7th grades. My parents did not have a need to do anything except ask me if I had any questions after the classes were delivered in school. Some parts of personal grooming my mother elaborated on as per the rules of our deen but that was it.
Those of you that have read all the hoopla may not have dug into the details. Please do so. See if you would like to have your child taught that sex is considered a "recreational activity" at such a tender age with no mention of marriage. Think about whether you would want an entire generation growing up with such a mindset. And that's just one example. Follow the link in the excerpt below and scroll to the bottom to see what children will be taught at what age.
According to my sensitivities there is too much being taught, too early. And too much of it goes against what my faith teaches....so I'm not in favour....but the defining factor was when my 12 year old daughter and I talked about this and she said, "Eww Mama, I don't want to hear about all this with my friends around! If I need to know something we can look it up in the books you've given me and we can talk about it like we did before. I hope khala is going to keep the boys out of school on the days that this stuff is taught cuz they're just too little to know this stuff."
Campaign for life is a Catholic organization with their WARPED view on what is right and what is wrong. The passages u pasted was their OPINION with some cut and paste Job that throws some red meat to people with similar mindset.
Here is a passage u didn't quote
"The curriculum document encourages the use of condoms and artificial birth control to prevent pregnancy and STDs, something that is totally incompatible with the Catholic school system. Yet our Liberal Premier says Catholics are expected to teach it nonetheless. *The 2015 curriculum adds a brand new reference to "reproductive health", which is a known euphemism that public health authorities and Planned Parenthood use to mean abortion.
The Minister of Education and Premier Wynne have made it clear that the Catholic school system, like the secular public system, must *implement this curriculum without exception. *It is unclear how Catholic schools can implement teaching on birth control, abortion, the idea that being male or female is a social construct, gender expression, and the 6-gender theory, even if retrofitted with a "Catholic lens". Catholic moral teaching forbids abortion and the use of artificial contraception as grave evils. The theory of gender identity, gender expression and the idea that there are more genders than..."
So divorce condoms and abortion are evil. Planned parenthood is not a good thing.
The same organization was worried about HIV transmission. But is also against condoms. That makes sense.
How would you feel if they wanted schools to ban hijabs or mock the bindi worn by Hindu women.
You stated u don't want schools to teach what your faith is against. Too bad. It is not about you or your faith. It is about an EQUITABLE system that PROMOTES TOLERANCE. And if any faith teaches it's followers to be intolerant about a certain orientation or race - be they Hindus or muslims- those followers can home school their kids.
How about providing a link that states what the curriculum is for various age groups. Rather than provide the OPINION of a religious organization couched as fact. Infomercials are more credible.
It's the 21st century. Get on board.
As for anecdotal information about some kids not wanting to attend such classes, one can probably find se real kids AND their parents wanting to be taught such curriculum.