ok, my friend has a muslim boyfriend, and she wants , nay needs, to know if u can have sex in ramadan during the night when one is not fasting…
and no, this is not a cover up for myself. she really does want to know.
First of all...if she has a muslim 'boyfriend' that means they arnt married (im guessing ?)
Extra Maritial sex isnt allowed in islam and im sure ur aware of that.
Secondly...sex with a spouse is i believe allowed at night when you are not fasting.
you may wanna get a second opinion on that though..my knowledge is not the best.
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y doesn’t she ask her “muslim” boyfriend? i dont think he’d mind though …
its allowed but not thru boyfriend! zina has no time line!
dude, that's what i was telling her.
but she wishes to have some level of respect. see he's not a complete muslim yet. his mom is muslim and father is christian, and he's had no religion for years. he's still deciding, although he's leaning more towards Islam. This is his first month fasting. He's a muslim in the making. And who knows, maybe my friend will follow suit.
Its not a good idea to pass judgements when u have no idea what the situation is.
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dude, that's what i was telling her.
but she wishes to have some level of respect. see he's not a complete muslim yet. his mom is muslim and father is christian, and he's had no religion for years. he's still deciding, although he's leaning more towards Islam. This is his first month fasting. He's a muslim in the making. And who knows, maybe my friend will follow suit.
Its not a good idea to pass judgements when u have no idea what the situation is.
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.. nobody ia saying anything bout her boyfriend but ur friend needs help!
why do you guys always pinpoint it on the woman??
She's having sex with her boyfriend because BOTH of them want to. Its not like she's seducing him. And remember, he's not a full-fledged muslim yet.
And isn't becoming a muslim first about faith - the shahadat? So that is what he's working on right now. Once he's got that down, the sex will stop. Until then, they're both not officially muslim, so why blame one over the other?
Correct me if I am wrong, but she wants to find out if it is ok to commit zina in Ramadan at night time.
I am generally quite a reasonable person, but this question kinda pushes it.
i understand what ur saying...but they're NOT muslims (not yet). She's not asking if zina is permissable - she knows its not. But she has respect for her boyfriend wanting to try out fasting, and she wants to keep it as if they were married...they are planning on getting married.
Anyhoo, i totally understand what ur saying. But hey. At least he's exploring the religion. I can point out MANY muslims to you who ARE committing zina during ramazan while fasting, shamelessly. At least he's not fasting to conform to his surroundings. He's got some interest in it, and that deserves some respect.
As for the girl, I think she deserves respect too, because at least she's supporting him, even though they are committing zina. Maybe today they might be committing zina, but who knows...tomorrow they might decide to become muslims.
That's how I look at the matter. Note, I'm not condoning the zina.
For argument's sake, lets assume, there is a married muslim couple. My understanding is that during Ramadan, they can engage in sexual relationships with each other at any time when they are not fasting. So technically, that is any time between sunset to sunrise.
if they ain't muslim what is the point in discussing it, kuffar hold no boundaries !
deadly right… :k:
and for the other point, ZINA have no time line, its totally prohibited in ISLAM, and when its prohibited then its prohibited.
and you should have told in the begining that your friend is also a Non Muslim who have a Bf who is something he himself doenst know ..
and dont say what other Muslims are doing, they will have in the eternity what they did, we dont ahve to say anything in there reagrds. you wanted an opinion, so surely you will get many opinion.
but as typical human nature, everyone tries to find what suits themselves better, no matter if its allowed or not
Re: sex during ramadan - very urgent
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*Originally posted by PyariCgudia: *
ok, my friend has a muslim boyfriend, and she wants , nay needs, to know if u can have sex in ramadan during the night when one is not fasting...
and no, this is not a cover up for myself. she really does want to know.
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sweet heart... tell this hypothetical friend of yours, for whom ur runing all these erands, that she can have sex as many times as she wishes to with as many boys as she like... as long as she carries a packet of condoms in her bag...
of course at the of the fasting month, after the eid prayers, we don't want to see her family freek of coz of unwanted teen-pregnacy... if u know wot i mean...
;)
and on top of that non-muslims concerned about sex in “Ramadaan”
As far as the question is concerned, Faisal is right…
PyariC, I understand what you're trying to get at. Their situation is unique - not good to pass judgements!!
There are worse crimes.
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PyariC, I understand what you're trying to get at. Their situation is unique - not good to pass judgements!!
There are worse crimes.
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Rape,adultry,SHIRK what else, they all came in same category,
what do you mean by more worse...
they all are Gunaah Kabeera
PCG, you said that the boy is not fully muslim yet, but he's observing ramzan anyway, right? so even if he's not a muslim and still fasting, i think he should respect this month and SINCE fasting, he should follow all the rules and regulations as well.
during this month, only husband and wife can have sex at night. no one else can have sex at anytime, day or night. if he weren't fasting, then yes he could have sex. besides, if he can't help it right now, how would he stop himself after he converts to islam?
p.s. all i said is based upon what i know. there's no hadith or quranic refrence to back this up. which means i didn't search for this answer.
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i understand what ur saying...but they're NOT muslims (not yet).
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Then it shouldnt really matter to them.
The question is rather odd. Its like the serial killer who killed kids, and then later on, tried to make up for it by telling the parents 'I was gentle, I didnt let them cry'.
Zina is a big sin. Yes there are bigger sins, but that argument is a very stale one. When committing an act, you cannot compare it to other sins, and then do a feasibility study on it to see whether its committable or not. You cannot lie, and then defend it by saying that there are others who lie as well, or do worse things for that matter.
A simple answer to your question is, that yes, marital relations are allowed between a married couple during the night in Ramzaan. Beyond that, they should be intelligent enough to realize that they dont even fall into this category, and any pretentious attitude will not make it so either.
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i understand what ur saying...but they're NOT muslims (not yet).
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cool down.. now ur saying after long that she is also non-muslim..look u didnt told us that before check ur post..