I've never seen a native English person using the word "penis" or "vagina" in front of his children and how some desis are daring to use it just because it sounds decent to them in comparison to their native language.
Do you really think if you kid finds out what the name of that particular body part is, he/she will use it in day to day conversation ?
How many times a day do we as adults use those words/names ??
why should a kid want to know what that body part is called in Urdu (or some other language) ? .
Now that is a major assumption, innit .. that also to support the argument that its ok for kids to learn the name of sexual organs at the age of 6
Do you really think if you kid finds out what the name of that particular body part is, he/she will use it in day to day conversation ?
How many times a day do we as adults use those words/names ??
Most likely he won't unless he starts reading "growing up with Nisha and Joe" everyday.
Now that is a major assumption, innit .. that also to support the argument that its ok for kids to learn the name of sexual organs at the age of 6
The point was that the kids know what its called in English; why does he want to know what the translation is in different languages ?
A 6 yr old will not know that those are sexual organs. All he/she will know is that he uses those organs for peeing. However, if thats not the case there is a problem far bigger than just knowing the name.
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i thought the disturbing part of the booklet was not to teach kids their own body parts but those of the opposite sex! 'nisha' and 'joe' are being a given an anatomy tour of each other, and that is disturbing info for little kids, why does a little girl need to know how little boys are different from her and what their privates are called ?! thats how sex ed is introduced.
The point was that the kids know what its called in English; why does he want to know what the translation is in different languages ? .
Kids are curious dude. I take that you are not married or at least dont have kids who are toddlers. My daughter comes to me and ask me .. Papa what do you call apple in urdu? or something like that..all the time. Just out of curiosity.
I mean we are teaching our kids shame and stuff. We want them to keep those body parts covered and not to expose them unless they need to go to the bathroom. Dont you think this is better. I am sure that your parents and my parents also raised us like that.
Teaching kids the concept of shame is far more important than teaching them the name of sexual body parts. They can learn that later at older age but if not taught from the beginning, they will never learn the concept of shame at the older age.
and think about the curiosity factor kicking in when guys realize through pictures that girls dont have pee pee and they go to the school and coax a girl to show him her organ, or expose his to her with pride.
so where did you learn about it from, jaanwar?
Now thats a rather amusing question Queer. A little birdie told me about pee-pee's, their significance and uses. Isn't how everybody learns about it?
Unless you are in the middle of a research project - you should where kids learn all the details. Ever had friends? Yup, friends talk.
And where do those 'friends' learn about it? the word is 'interaction'. This surely is a complex phenomenon, this knowledge passes from one generation of 'ganday bachay' to another and spreads like jungle fire. We all learn.
Kids are curious dude. I take that you are not married or at least dont have kids who are toddlers. My daughter comes to me and ask me .. Papa what do you call apple in urdu? or something like that..all the time. Just out of curiosity.
I mean we are teaching our kids shame and stuff. We want them to keep those body parts covered and not to expose them unless they need to go to the bathroom. Dont you think this is better. I am sure that your parents and my parents also raised us like that.
Teaching kids the concept of shame is far more important than teaching them the name of sexual body parts. They can learn that later at older age but if not taught from the beginning, they will never learn the concept of shame at the older age.
and think about the curiosity factor kicking in when guys realize through pictures that girls dont have pee pee and they go to the school and coax a girl to show him her organ, or expose his to her with pride.
My disagreements with 'GS mods and bosses' aside, man you're an inspiration.
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Another thought on this topic...while it may (or may not) be important to each of us as parents to teach our young kids the proper names of body parts and to educate them about the opposite gender....it IS very important to teach them that their bodies are private, not to be touched or seen. And if anyone should try, they should take appropriate action - run away, tell a teacher, tell parents. There are too many nuts out there these days and a child who is completely without this knowledge may be left vulnerable.
The elementary schools in our district do not teach sex-ed or body parts to children but they do send material home and also have parent meetings with local police on how to talk to your young children about this. We had a total of 3 letters sent home in the past 3 years about people trying to lure a local child into a car from school playgrounds. Its a very scary thing to contemplate...so I make sure to review with my littles - never talk to strangers for any reason whatsoever. Never get into anyones car unless mom or dad have specifically told you that its ok. And never let anyone touch your private parts.
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^^^ excellent point!!!!
I agree with you guys that sex education at 6 is unneccesary and a bit early, the kids wont grasp much at that age.
However Sex education is very important later, it should start in Year 7 at the age of 12 in the first year of Secondary School and it should be taught throughout Secondary School, every year for 5 years untill Year 11.
Age of Consent should also be lowered to 13 (Year 8) like it is in Spain so that girls with older boyfriends don't have to keep them secret and the parents know about it, it happens anyway so might aswell make it legal so that an eye can be kept on such relations.
Sex education should focus more on teaching the use of protection and contraceptions to prevent STD's and pregnancies rather than on how to do it, schools and colleges should also provide free condoms, ky jelly (lube), info leaflets etc. to their students.
There is no correlation between sex education and teenage pregnancies.
The Age of Consent to have sexual intercourse in Denmark, Netherlands, Holland, The Vatican etc. is 12, sex is a lot less tabboo in these countries and they've been teaching sex education way before we Brits started teaching it and from a much younger age too yet teenage pregnancies are the lowest in Europe over there.
We Brits are the most prudish of all Europeans, sex is more tabboo in Britain than it is in Germany, France, Spain, Holland etc.
In Britain we cover ourselves with a towel when we go to the public sauna or bathhouse, other Europeans go nude yet teenage pregnancies are the highest over here.
So exposure to sex does not increase teenage pregancies, if anything it's the forbidden apple attitude which seems increase teenage pregnancies.
Age of Consent should also be lowered to 13 (Year 8) so that girls with older boyfriends don't have to keep them secret and the parents know about it, it happens anyway so might aswell make it legal so that an eye can be kept on such relations.
There is no way that I could ever agree with you on this one. At age 13, they are still children. If you make this the age of consent, you are giving rights to all kinds of perverts to molest children. Its the responsibility of a parent to know what their children are up to - not the responsibility of irresponsible laws. A law should never be enacted just because "it happens anyway" yeah? I mean there are countless people who drive drunk or who smoke pot...does that mean it should be made legal?
Sorry. A 13 year old does not realize the full consequence of the meaning of "age of consent". So the legal "age of consent" should remain at an age that they can understand what it truly means.
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that is great...
There is no way that I could ever agree with you on this one. At age 13, they are still children. If you make this the age of consent, you are giving rights to all kinds of perverts to molest children. Its the responsibility of a parent to know what their children are up to - not the responsibility of irresponsible laws. A law should never be enacted just because "it happens anyway" yeah? I mean there are countless people who drive drunk or who smoke pot...does that mean it should be made legal?
Sorry. A 13 year old does not realize the full consequence of the meaning of "age of consent". So the legal "age of consent" should remain at an age that they can understand what it truly means.
totally in agreement with mamaof 3.... it should be the parents bringing up the child ... not the laws...
@ nosherwan : Why do we not look at our religion when issues like this come up? let me ask you a different way ... would you get your daughter or son married at age 12? if not ....why should it be ok then to tell a child that its ok for them to do what ever they want on the sexual front?
At the end of the day , its all about instilling good values and preparing them to own up the pleasures of life with the consequences ...
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hmmm comical sex education...
Kids are curious dude. I take that you are not married or at least dont have kids who are toddlers. My daughter comes to me and ask me .. Papa what do you call apple in urdu? or something like that..all the time. Just out of curiosity.
I mean we are teaching our kids shame and stuff. We want them to keep those body parts covered and not to expose them unless they need to go to the bathroom. Dont you think this is better. I am sure that your parents and my parents also raised us like that.
Teaching kids the concept of shame is far more important than teaching them the name of sexual body parts. They can learn that later at older age but if not taught from the beginning, they will never learn the concept of shame at the older age.
and think about the curiosity factor kicking in when guys realize through pictures that girls dont have pee pee and they go to the school and coax a girl to show him her organ, or expose his to her with pride.
Those are all good points with one exception - a 6 year old is not a toodler :)
My point is that whether you tell them the name or not, at age 6 they are aware about 'that' body part and will refer to it in some way. Whether you call it 'pee-pee' or 'penis' or 'chair' is a matter of choice for parents based on social, cultural and religious values. Nuff said...
And if that helps, I have a toddler (3) and a 2nd grader (8).
Kids are curious dude. I take that you are not married or at least dont have kids who are toddlers. My daughter comes to me and ask me .. Papa what do you call apple in urdu? or something like that..all the time. Just out of curiosity.
I mean we are teaching our kids shame and stuff. We want them to keep those body parts covered and not to expose them unless they need to go to the bathroom. Dont you think this is better. I am sure that your parents and my parents also raised us like that.
Teaching kids the concept of shame is far more important than teaching them the name of sexual body parts. They can learn that later at older age but if not taught from the beginning, they will never learn the concept of shame at the older age.
and think about the curiosity factor kicking in when guys realize through pictures that girls dont have pee pee and they go to the school and coax a girl to show him her organ, or expose his to her with pride.
TLK ... a very very strong point indeed .... well said .. :@:
its the concept of shame that is important rather then trying to teach them anything that will only confuse them further...
There is no way that I could ever agree with you on this one. At age 13, they are still children. If you make this the age of consent, you are giving rights to all kinds of perverts to molest children. Its the responsibility of a parent to know what their children are up to - not the responsibility of irresponsible laws. A law should never be enacted just because "it happens anyway" yeah? I mean there are countless people who drive drunk or who smoke pot...does that mean it should be made legal?
Sorry. A 13 year old does not realize the full consequence of the meaning of "age of consent". So the legal "age of consent" should remain at an age that they can understand what it truly means.
Kids mature a lot early nowadays than they did before.
Parents tend to be over protective but a 13-14 year old today is no kid and they're certainly not ignorant of sex.
When the 18 yr old Age of Consent law came about in countries like England the kids reached puberty much later at about 15-16, now diets are better and kids mature much faster and are ready for sex at 13-14.
Kids don't always tell their parents everything about these things but they do have sex at 13-14, I'm a teen so I know what our generation are like better than older people.
So many girls in my class fancied older boys, they thought we their own age were too immature so they had much older boyfriends, they kept it a secret from parents and teachers to avoid getting their boyfriends in trouble, now as an older brother that's scary!!! Wouldn't you rather know about such a relationship? So that at least you could keep an eye on it and not have somebody take advantage of your child/sibling? If the girl feels she has to hide things from her family, tomorrow she might be forced to do something against her will and it'd be too late to just come out of the blue and tell anyone.
As long as they're not being hurt or forced or used for a one night stand, sex is not so bad.
You only think a 13 year old shouldn't have sex with someone older because your society has conditioned you to think that way, it's in your head just like I think my parents having sex is wronggg is in my head, it doesn't mean it's morally wrong.
Most of these older guys who were preppy types took good care of their young girlfriends, and there was definately romance and love in there but a few such relationships where the boyfriends were thugsters looked a bit worrying (gangbangs etc.) but these girls were mostly the trashy type anyway.
Why is sex so bad anyway? Why is it molestation? Why so tabboo in secular society? I can understand Muslims from Peshawar or Christians from Texas being opposed to it because their book says adultery/fornication is bad but it's not a bad thing according to secularist/atheist values.
Age difference should be no big deal if both partners want it and are above the age of puberty. Afterall we are all just people. People, people...
Kids these days are exposed to drugs, violence etc. so why is sex a no no?
You know what's retarted? In England you can start having sex at 16 yet you can't watch hardcore sex porno (do the practical but just don't watch it) or act in a porno (if a 18 yr old posesses a homemade vid of their 16 yr old partner they'd be comitting a crime), that's retarted.
I say start teaching sex education at 12 and let those who want to get on with it at 13.
Kids mature a lot early nowadays than they did before.
*Parents tend to be over protective but a 13-14 year old today is no kid and they're certainly not ignorant of sex. *
When the 18 yr old Age of Consent law came about in countries like England the kids reached puberty much later at about 15-16, now diets are better and kids mature much faster and are ready for sex at 13-14.
Just because a child is able to reproduce and knows how to do it, that in no way makes them ready to handle a proper relationship, nor be able to parent a child of their own. Nor be able to fend for themselves in the world -- earn a living, support their family etc. Responsible sexual behavior is practiced by those who are able to accomplish these things.
Kids don't always tell their parents everything about these things but they do have sex at 13-14, I'm a teen so I know what our generation are like better than older people.
Again, it the responsiblity of a parent to know what their kids are up to.
So many girls in my class fancied older boys...
*As long as they're not being hurt or forced or used for a one night stand, sex is not so bad. *
You only think a 13 year old shouldn't have sex with someone older because your society has conditioned you to think that way, it's in your head just like I think my parents having sex is wronggg is in my head, it doesn't mean it's morally wrong.
I think a 13 year old should not be having sex at all. And it is indeed morally wrong. Where do you get the idea that its morally OK for a 13 year old to have sex outside of marriage?
When a man "wants" a 13 year old girl, theres something wrong with him. Lowering the age of consent to age 13 would unleash countless pedophiles who like pubescent (not fully developed) girls. I know you think that a 13 year old is mature because they have cycles but even one who started cycles at age 10 do not complete their development until later teen years...and many of these pedophiles will pay lots of money for a pubescent girl.
*Most of these older guys who were preppy types took good care of their young girlfriends, and there was definately romance and love in there but a few such relationships where the boyfriends were thugsters looked a bit worrying (gangbangs etc.) but these girls were mostly the trashy type anyway. *
It is really immaterial if the older, preppy types "take care" of their girlfriends. How is this? They buy nice presents for them? Take them out clubbing? Why not just ask for cold, hard cash? It boils down to the same thing.
Why is sex so bad anyway? Why is it molestation? Why so tabboo in secular society? I can understand Muslims from Peshawar or Christians from Texas being opposed to it because their book says adultery/fornication is bad but it's not a bad thing according to secularist/atheist values.
Age *difference should be no big deal if both partners want it and are above the age of puberty. Afterall we are all just people. People, people...*
Kids these days are exposed to drugs, violence etc. so why is sex a no no?
Yes, kids are exposed to drugs, violence and sex. Each one of these things are a big no-no. If you think sex is fine, do you also think that drugs and violence are fine? Thats a pretty illogical train of thought yeah? Just because you are exposed to something and know all about it that does not make it ok for you to indulge in it.
You know what's retarted? In England you can start having sex at 16 yet you can't watch hardcore sex porno (do the practical but just don't watch it) or act in a porno (if a 18 yr old posesses a homemade vid of their 16 yr old partner they'd be comitting a crime), that's retarted.
I say start teaching sex education at 12 and let those who want to get on with it at 13
I would guess that your age is around 13 yeah? What would your mom and dad think of your views? If my 13 year old held such views, I'd send them off to a convent till age 18. Like I said, at age 13, you cannot possibly understand the consequences of a sexual relationship and will very likely face an enormous burden of guilt and regret when you reach maturity.
I'm a teen so I know what our generation are like better
now your posts makes sense.