I am sure sane person want set up or finance a brothel house in their city/locality, but most of them do finance it and take part in encouraging the business development activities. The guys who are visiting these brothels are actually creating a market demand for these places in the local community.
I don’t know what they think about the supply of the “raw-material” to run the show. The Service-Providers will be picked up from your house, it can be your sister, daughter, wife… as the existing service-providers may have the same relationship with someone else.
So promote the brothel-houses by visiting them most often and someday you may found someone from your family, providing the services.
I who goes to these brothels will simply not go there after reading this message, but have this message in your mind.
true :( dont understand why these people dont realise or think about this before going to such places or even like if someone is havin an extra martial affair i wonder do they not realise that how would they feel if their spouse is doing the same?!?.................why are human beings so weirdly complex :(
People are carried out by their animal instinct, they are weak and stupid at same time, they fell prey to their desires and this thing takes-over to their analytical skills.
I don't know why these people think that women feel happy after being sold like a commodity. I don't know why can't they see the faces of their loved ones in the eyes of the SERVICE-PROVIDER, why don't they see the tea and sadness on their faces.
These suppose to be humans, they shouldn't be treated like a commodity or like an animal.. as if we allow that practice, if we promote these activities, then chances are that somebody from our household may join the brothel as a service-provider soon.
You know...i dont want to sound heatrless but nowadays i have seen many girls actually the so called modern girls doing it just for extra money. They would rather earn money this way then to work hard :( which is very sad and vry unfortunate. Because i always thought to everyone their respect, soul was always of the most importance but i guess not :(......
There is a reason why prostitution is referred to as "the oldest profession". As long as there is a demand for it, the supply will follow. Sad but true. But this doesnt mean that a man who visits whorehouses will one day find a family member there because rather invariably, the men who visit these places are wealthy enough to ensure that their relatives will never need to resort to such.
Its the chances these men take that really burn me. The chance of passing god-knows-what kind of diseases on to his wife. The chance of being found out, losing his wife and respect of his community.
You know, there are quite a number of gals in USA who are putting themselves thru college - very expensive colleges - by dancing topless. They earn incredible amounts of money and torture the men who pay to see them dance - yeah, enjoy it but dont touch or you'll get thrown out on your arse.
You know...i dont want to sound heatrless but nowadays i have seen many girls actually the so called modern girls doing it just for extra money. They would rather earn money this way then to work hard :( which is very sad and vry unfortunate. Because i always thought to everyone their respect, soul was always of the most importance but i guess not :(......
its a sad, sad world this place has become :(.
When it come as matter of choice then things are different compare to situation where girls are bought / kidnapped to run such houses.. and we by visiting them, giving them a reason to come to our localities in search of "raw-material".
There is a reason why prostitution is referred to as "the oldest profession". As long as there is a demand for it, the supply will follow. Sad but true. But this doesnt mean that a man who visits whorehouses will one day find a family member there because rather invariably, the men who visit these places are wealthy enough to ensure that their relatives will never need to resort to such.
Its the chances these men take that really burn me. The chance of passing god-knows-what kind of diseases on to his wife. The chance of being found out, losing his wife and respect of his community.
You know, there are quite a number of gals in USA who are putting themselves thru college - very expensive colleges - by dancing topless. They earn incredible amounts of money and torture the men who pay to see them dance - yeah, enjoy it but dont touch or you'll get thrown out on your arse.
So who is the fool here?
what i am trying to do here is kill the demand... so that supply dies automatically...
who knows tomorrow some economical situation, tough-lucks in the career or some other elements take somebody we know to these houses... then what?
why to have these houses in the first place... if you have brothel and you promote the business by paying them.. then yes everything is possible...
One i was kid, my father use to tell me bed-time story, which was, once in a farm house there was a rat, the farmer bought some rat-poison to kill that rat. The rat was scared so he went to chicken and donkey to tell them that their is rat-poison in the house... both of them paid no attention as it is not for them anyway. The farmer poisoned cheese and set a trap for the mouse, apparently the son of farmer who was just a toddler, picked that cheese and ate it... making long story short.. the farmer have to sell the donkey to pay for his son's medicine and he have to cook the chicken to make chicken soup for his son...
Moral of the story.. when there is rat-poison in the house, everyone is at risk.
the movie "taken" comes to mind. Two girls are kidnapped while on a trip to Paris. The men that take them keep injecting girls with heroine so they become dependent on them and do anything to earn money for the heroine, and ofciurse they are forced into prostitution. It was a pretty good movie.
^^ There was a documentary on Al-Jazeera the other day, where they were showing that how women were forced into prostitution in the modern societies of Western Europe and USA.
No less than 95% of prostitutes do not enjoy prostituting themselves. There is a specific mentality that leads women toward these situations, and as such most prostitutes are victims of childhood sexual abuse or adult rape. It consistently infuriates me that people blame these women for their perpetual victimization (yes, I said it). The consent that they give toward selling their bodies is warped at best. It is commonplace (even in America), for pimps to find young, vulnerable women and groom them into the business. Most of these women have never known affection from a man, and if they have it has been their perception of affection through abuse. Pimps spend money on them, and the women equate money with love. Once they've gained their trust, they push them into the business. And once a woman experiences that betrayal, her feelings of being tainted worsen and she see's no escape. Many pimps are even known to look for potential women and have them gang raped-- which leads to the mentality where they sell themselves. Many of these women actively wish for death, and many commit suicide.
Men are perpetuating this problem. It is the men who feed the business, and thus perpetuate the victimization of these women. I won't even get started on shame based societies where women born into prostitute families have no other option but to sell themselves.
Stripping is hardly akin to selling your body. Women who strip are merely showing themselves, women who sell their bodies are having their physical autonomy taken from them. There is no comparison.
Prostitutes should not be punished. The men who use them should.
Prostitutes in most of the cases are themselves the victim, so punishing them doesn't make any sense to me...
Yes the men/women who run such business, who force someone into this business and anyone remotely related to create a prostitute out of women should be prosecuted.
Lets not make it sound like men are the root of all evil, yet again. When you say pimps, use "/madams". I dont disagree with the victimization part, but that goes beyond women. Children and in many cases men are forced into selling their bodies. Not to mention the transvestites/transgenders - who are the most suppressed people on the face of the earth.
The bottom line being, prostitution is amongst the most humiliating/suppressing/destructive elements of society, and not a single soul will disagree with that. What is important is that all should play their part in its eradication.
And I would take the liberty to add - it is a lot convenient for me to sit on my butt and rant about prostitution and other social evils and even easier to act all Mulla McKenzie. What I need to ask myself is, what part have I played in their eradication or helping the victims? If the answer is "none", I would rather zip it and get back to watching my favorite tv show.
^^ and how would you know that someone have done something? are you going to issue a clearance certificate to that person allowing to open threads like these or you have something else in your mind?
If nothing, then one can zip it up and let other see and figure out what is they can do at their level to work out this evil... now can you start by putting up a suggestion
^ your aggression cracked me up. Virtue is not about getting a certificate, its about inner satisfaction. Although my post was not aiming at your opening this thread, yet your emotional tantrum was adorable.
My point, which apparently I failed to get across to your open-to-suggestions mind, was that emotional ranting is one thing, acting to help others another. A comparatively lesser knowledgeable person like myself could perhaps see your thread as just another "shame on you evil-doers, I am better than you" thread, instead of "this is the problem, this is the possible solution, this is what I have done towards it and what are your suggestions/actions" message.
^^
If your mind is ready to accept something new then below are few points for you, if not, then just ignore them and carry on with your life:
Your about comparatively less knowledge:
[FONT="]somebody with comparatively less knowledge shouldn't be taking part.. then tell the method validate one''s knowledge on certain subject, may somebody have started a thread with different view then of your understanding/view, then does it make him/her less knowledgeable, or because he/she have less knowledge on certain subject then they shouldn't be posting, what kind of thing is this? how can they benefit from others knowledge and experince in this case, wait for someone to start a topic!!! as a guy like you can come bulling them draging the topic on someother way..
Now if you fail to read or understand what is written in my post and still looking for the solution then i may say that, your-mind is unable to capture anything ( good or bad) other than what its takes, so before being sarcastic on others, imporve yourself..
Now for some reason you don't like the topic, the participants, the posts or something, then you have all the liberty to not to click-to-open this post... as it can work without you....on the otherhand, if you have interest in this, then yes take part..
Now lacking the activities of pointout the evil doers in the society have actually made the society the thing it is.... you take all kind of interest in girly issues, which are more or less different version of same problems but you feel this kind of subjects are just pointint figners... well if this is what you think then you are free to think whatever you want.. but other think otherwise.. and are pointing out to an evil activity, then its their choice, you have to recognize their right of speech.
You may be one of the most intelligent member on the forum but by interfereing into others right of specch you are actually making your intelligence doubtful
May i make a small point of mine to elaborate on the topic.
The only people who can effectivly deal with this problem are the GOVERMENT.
It is not difficult to ban such activities.
But the Problem is the Goverment People, and most of the richer, powerful people are themselves indulged in this thing then what are they going to do about it?
Its a sad story.
Pakistani men are indeed dusgusting selfish b....ds, who wudnt take a second to throw acid on the faces of thier wives caught doing same.
Thats the double standards of Pakistani people, man have liberty to do every thing and there are commercial markets where he can actually DO it.
anyway, we should personally aviod these activities and preach the same to others, there may be a few who don't like to be preached against these activities. but create awarness, do your part, don't care how big or small it is..
To be honest, I appreciate that your reply is far better than what I expected - no sarcasm intended. This is normally the point when some typical Mulla McKenzie would come screaming in and launch an assault on the evil-doing-evil-talker. Just a few flaws however:
When I said 'less knowledgeable', I meant myself - the wording was "a comparatively lesser knowledgeable person like myself" and the context was that someone could easily take your thread for just another finger pointing self righteous thread - perhaps its the way you conveyed or I interpreted it. A sarcastic-prick-bully that perhaps I am, I would never claim that someone is lesser intelligent than myself, merely on the basis of how I interpret their opinions and ideas.
Having said that, if I were you, I would take a minute to think whether its someone's interpretation thats flawed or my communication.
I consider my opinion my contribution to this thread, if it is open to others' ideas as you say it is. Perhaps if your thread was based on some action or intervention you had started on a personal level, no matter how small, to help someone, it is possible that my views would have been different. Perhaps it is my personal opinion that merely pointing fingers and cussing does less good to any evil. I am not debating on this point though, Alhamdulillah I play my part and I am at peace - not bragging.
And then a point for you to ponder - somebody with "Jaanwar" for his nick and a gorilla for his avatar would perhaps be the last person to claim he is the most intelligent of all races.
PS: Now that you have mentioned it, girly issues are rather spicy.
Thats the double standards of Pakistani people, man have liberty to do every thing and there are commercial markets where he can actually DO it.
anyway, we should personally aviod these activities and preach the same to others, there may be a few who don't like to be preached against these activities. but create awarness, do your part, don't care how big or small it is..
Now this post of yours, minus the lil passive aggressive comment, is quite sensible and there is an open message for awareness and playing your part - much better I'd say.