As a general observation I find that children who grow up in pakistan suffer less from low self esteem its almost as if it doesnt exist as a social concept compared to children who grow up in western countries, i dont think there is even a word for self esteem in urdu..
The girls who i come across there seem very self assured and confident within themselves and seem to have their priorities straight in comparison to girls i know here.
I know this this is a massive generalization and im only using my own observations .
...i dont think there is even a word for self esteem in urdu...
it's called "Khud parastii, Khud-sitaa'ish, Khud aaraaii, tauqeer-e-zaatii, Khud-qadarii" vaGhairah vaGhaira :)
My observation is the complete opposite! It seems insecurity is a way bigger problem there, everyone always worried about what other people are saying/thinking about them.
My observation is the complete opposite! It seems insecurity is a way bigger problem there, everyone always worried about what other people are saying/thinking about them.
but does that stem from low self esteem?
sometimes i think people there worry about what people think because they actually have nothing better to worry about.
its interesting because i also agree that people do worry alot about what people think there...
I never understood this western notion of ‘self-esteem issues’ that seem to be the cause of every stupid thing a female does at any stage of her life…whatever it is…the reason is ‘self-esteem issues’…..what on earth is it???
so you agree its a western notion? self esteem is how much someone values/loves themself (in the non arrogant sense)
the notion i was talking about was...that the self-esteem issues are the reasons/cause behind stupidity later on in life...
obviously self-esteem issues are there...everywhere.....but pinning them as a sole/major reason for subsequent idiocy......thats western in my opinion....
the notion i was talking about was...that the self-esteem issues are the reasons/cause behind stupidity later on in life...
obviously self-esteem issues are there...everywhere.....but pinning them as a sole/major reason for subsequent idiocy......thats western in my opinion....
So how do you see self esteem?
do u not think the way you see yourself internaly will determine how you behave externally?
Sometimes it is not high self esteem but - actually shamelessness or 'besharmi' on the part of other people that is mistaken for it..
In poorer nations or situations such as pakistan people often adapt into becoming oppurtunists.
Sometimes it is not high self esteem but - actually shamelessness or 'besharmi' on the part of other people that is mistaken for it..
In poorer nations or situations such as pakistan people often adapt into becoming oppurtunists.
I think this is what I meant when i said thye have their priorities set in place, i mean the people i come across have two things on their mind...education and family and nothing stops them in striving for the best, whereas girls here might have fantastic oppertunities yet seem so insecure.
Well ppl back home live very tough life if you are middle class there. So they are no option but to strive. Whereas, ppl do not probably care about it much because there are more opportunities here. But you see depends on person to person though. Since everybody's situation is different, their outcome will be accordingly.
Low self-esteem isn't confined between borders, it is everywhere.
Pakistani society is restricting, especially for women. That doesn't have anything to do with how confident they may or may not be. It is estimated that 60,000 people attempt to take their lives every year in Ireland. Surely, low self-esteem has a lot to do with this since people here aren't short of the basics (food, shelter, clothes) as most Pakistanis are.
Confidence develops over time and our life experiences & the environment we live in have a huge effect on our overall personality. My maamu has only one son and he was brought up in a house with no other kids around. He is therefore an extremely shy kid. My khala, on the other hand, has 3 sons and a daughter and they're all such talkative, lively, confident, intelligent little kids!
I myself have been brought up in three different countries, mostly away from any relatives/family friends. So I am more shy than let's say my cousins back home. Though I don't have any low self-esteem problems. As you grow older, start working, start interacting with a tonne of people, this shyness fades away to a great extent.... unless you're living in a depressing, lonely environment.
Low self-esteem isn't confined between borders, it is everywhere.
Pakistani society is restricting, especially for women. That doesn't have anything to do with how confident they may or may not be. It is estimated that 60,000 people attempt to take their lives every year in Ireland. Surely, low self-esteem has a lot to do with this since people here aren't short of the basics (food, shelter, clothes) as most Pakistanis are.
Confidence develops over time and our life experiences & the environment we live in have a huge effect on our overall personality. My maamu has only one son and he was brought up in a house with no other kids around. He is therefore an extremely shy kid. My khala, on the other hand, has 3 sons and a daughter and they're all such talkative, lively, confident, intelligent little kids!
I myself have been brought up in three different countries, mostly away from any relatives/family friends. So I am more shy than let's say my cousins back home. Though I don't have any low self-esteem problems. As you grow older, start working, start interacting with a tonne of people, this shyness fades away to a great extent.... unless you're living in a depressing, lonely environment.
Thanks for your input barbiecue!!
You seem to bring up confidence alot, but i dont think external confidence and self esteem are actually directly related.
Sometimes low self esteem people can be very loud!
^ That is very true. I can put my finger on many of my friends (here in ireland) who have no problem communicating with others but deep down they do lack self-worth. I don't know what the psychology behind that may be.
^ That is very true. I can put my finger on many of my friends (here in ireland) who have no problem communicating with others but deep down they do lack self-worth. I don't know what the psychology behind that may be.
I think people who lack self worth need attention to validate themselves and in order to get attention they build up a super confident and loud exterior?
p.s. i think shrink is american slang for psychologist
..what on earth is it???