Secularism and Atheism

Re: Secularism and Atheism

Thanks, I guess we should stop reasoning, if you havnt understood my earlier posts, that must not have bothered you to reply me…

means we cannot even imply the meanings of each others…

I say by the very nature of human being it is not possible, but with some motivation. if you say that moral action are possible without motivation, then prove rationally, how. And plz dont just assume jusitce as if justice is moral and things done with justice are also moral, rather you should prove rationally that justice is moral, then you can continue.

not sure i get this part…

Randomly taken actions includes both, good and bad, and that deficient capability cannot lead human being to develop a moral framework or come accorss an idea like morality. Again here we need a motivation…

yes this verse does not refer to how people interact with each other specifically, but that tells about the nature of human being that is it is unjust.
Being a follower or merely using the name of religion does not mean that one is working under the (moral)framework of religion.

means if you give me example like, forgiveness is possible without relgion, then there must be a motivation i as said earlier in this post, deal with that.