psyah
June 11, 2013, 8:00am
115
Re: Secularism and Atheism
Now again, you are using religious concepts to prove your point which for philosopher is an assumption, amusing thing is you have to consult Wikipedia to confirm religious belief. Whereas, here in this thread I want prove my point with general rational arguments. Problem with your reasoning is you have been switching between two, rational and irrational arguments, when you are countered.
Furthermore, what you need to get my point is imagination. Maybe you lack this capability, that is, to imagine this world this without religion, and then continue to prove what you want to prove with rational arguments. why you are required to imagine this world without religion because today most of moral standard are extracted from the practices of religious moral framework, you may take it as my claim, and can prove it wrong, but only by rational reasoning, where you have to prove that why one would act morally without any motivation.
Dear ajazali … you asked me to provide a rational argument as to why I think the seeking of adl (justice) is part of our fitrah, to do this I have to resort to religion … because the fitra concept comes from religion.