You were satisfied with me calling them wahabis, did not oppose it. I gave you reasons. you gave reasons yourself saying they had a similar idea.
The sunni resistance to deobandis included an Subcontinent wide takfir so how can you say they are Ahl us Sunnah. The deobandis have left clues that they intended to not be from Ahlus Sunnah. They are not from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah. They have a constricted set of ideas that can not be inclusive of the Jamaah. Constricted to deobandi wahabi not free like the Jamaah
Ahlus Sunnah in the subcontinent have always been anti deobandi, they are always anti each other when differences arise, they are anti wahabi as well. Meaning they deal with any issue which they feel needs addressing. This is the correct way, although i do know what you mean in that its difficult to live in an atmosphere of refutation. However the fault lies with you and those who have influenced you to this point [perennialists]
There is nothing wrong with contemporary Sunnis, at least those that I follow. To actually benefit from them just requires to sit down and focus. I rate them above many people that you may rate highly - I wouldn’t praise them when in front of them or about them in a place where they could hear. I Thank Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala for them.
It was rubbish whether I said it or not
Your vision is blurred, if time permits I’ll show you what is bad manners from the people of bad manners
Question is asked if saying Ya Ahlal Qaboor is ok then why is saying Ya RasoolAllah [SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam] impermissible according to these bricks
Answer from them: because Barelvis say Ya RasoolAllah [SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam] believing RasoolAllah SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam to be Hazir wa Nazir [and he tries implying this is shirk] and it is ‘corrupt’ and ‘non-islamic’ belief. However when you say Ya Ahlal Qabur [from from one end of cemetery to the other] it is not said with any corrupt aqeedah. He says how can one use saying Ya Ahlal Qabur to justify saying Ya RasoolAllah [SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam] !
I say this is bad manners
I say this is takfiri
I say this is totally void of the Jamaah
I say this is void of the Sunnah
I say this view was taken up [by early deobandis] to cause trouble in the region [troublemakers]
I dunno … but Deobandis say Ya RasoolAllah (SAW) all the time … in the tashhud …
Assalamu’alaika AyyuhanNabiyu … this is harf nida and ism munada - according to rules of grammar - so if people are saying their aqeedah is wrong I wonder who they are actually saying salam to in their prayers?
Trust me there are ways to convince Deobandis - no need for takfir - just simple internal consistency checks will prove things.
EXACTLY
but do not say to me that they are Ahlus Sunnah till they correct themselves with our help or without
and do not say they are Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah till they admit their incorrect direct and indirect TAKFIRS on the Jamaah [on multiple issues]
Any person who takes himself as an alim from any where in the world who does not recognize these aspects even i could show them and showers the deobandiyyah with praise [except to invite them to Islam] is not an alim but is an…idiot. He needs to sit at the feet of a Barelvi kid
