Sects in Islam: How do you explain this?

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Sects in Islam: How do you explain this?

@Mr.Popat

The reason why majority of Muslim declare Ahmadis non-muslim is because of their belief on Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) to be the same Messiah, and give him the status of an ummati nabi.
Any so called ahmadi sect who do not believe in Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as)'s ummati nabuwat cannot be part of Jamaat e ahmadiyya.
Muslims have no problem anyone calling anyone saint/peer/waliullah etc. They do NOT consider anyone kafir simply because they consider someone to be a waliullah. However, they have problem with anyone believing someone to be a prophet.
Therefore, any sect from ahmadiyya jamaat who do not accept Promised Messiah(as) to be an ummati nabi becomes part of you. No one of you will declare that person non-muslim.
Ahmadiyya jamaat on the other hand accept Promised Messiah and accept his ummati nabuwat in accordance to Quran and ahadith. Orthodox Muslims have problem with this group of ahmadiyyat; not any other kind. Hope that answers your question.

Peace **Mr.Popat **Firstly, it is not the majority but ALL Muslims declare Ahmadis as non-Muslim!

All Muslims believe that the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is the LAST and FINAL Prophet from Allah Almighty. There will be no prophets in any form in any description (Ummati, Shadow, deputy etc. etc)

All Muslims believe that anyone who claims to a (Ummati, Shadow, deputy etc. etc) prophet is a Kaffir and out of pale of Islam.

All Muslims believe that anyone who takes this false prophet to be waliullah or a saint is also a kaffir.

There is ample evidence in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani’s sayings and writings with regards to his claims for him being a prophet and much more!

So keep your rejects to yourself.

Hope that answers your false observations!

@Mr.Popat

Like I said before, Jamaat e ahmadiyya stands alone when you analyze the hadith of Holy Prophet PBUH about 73 and 1.
We as jamaat e ahmadiyya profess that we are that one jamaat, and everyone else is in the 73 groups. If you listen to your scholars, they too claim that ‘every’ sect of Muslim has declared Ahmadiyya jamat to be out of Islam.
You cannot be in that 73 group and still be calling yourself that 1 jamaat.
Also keep in mind the words of Huzur PBUH when he said that jamaat will be the one who will be following me and my sahabah’s footsteps.
Like Prophet PBUH and Sahabah(ra)…Who is being stopped from praying? Like Prophet PBUH and sahaba(ra).. who is being stopped from doing tableegh? Who is being stopped from calling themselves Muslims?
Who are being killed simply because they claim they’re Muslims? Which sect of people are in jail because they acted like Muslims?

Mr. Popat the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) in the ahadith said that his Ummah will be divided in 73 sects – The Saved sect will be following him and his Blessed Companions (may Allah Almighty be pleased with them all) and will be a great Majority!

So if there was any remotest chance that Ahmadiyya jamat is part of Ummah of the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), WHICH FOR CERTAINTY it is not, it gets disqualified being the SAVED sect as being a tiniest minority – less than 1 percent!!!

Similitude of Ahmadiyya jamat with regards to the Ummah of the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is that Ummah of the false prophet Musaylimah the liar. And of those who built Masjid al-Dirar (Masjid-e-Zirrar) see the relevant ayahs below:

*And those who built a masjid to cause harm and for unbelief and to cause disunion among the believers and an ambush to him who made war against Allah and His Messenger before; and they will certainly swear: We did not desire aught but good; and Allah bears witness that they are most surely liars. * **[Surah at Tawba: 107]
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Never stand in it; certainly a masjid founded on piety from the very first day is more deserving that you should stand in it; in it are men who love that they should be purified; and Allah loves those who purify themselves. [Surah at Tawba: 108]

Is he, therefore, better who lays his foundation on fear of Allah and (His) good pleasure, or he who lays his foundation on the edge of a cracking hollowed bank, so it broke down with him into the fire of hell; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.** [Surah at Tawba: 109]**

These people were stopped from praying, doing tableegh and calling themselves Muslims. Think about it. In same the vein as you these they too would be playing the persecuted victims

Bigboi’s signature says it all: Persecution is a Sign of Truth

Playing the victim