Sects in Islam: How do you explain this?

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: Sects in Islam: How do you explain this?

@Mr.Popat

Those 8-10 so called groups are not recognized by jamat e ahmadiyya. In fact, they become part of you. They differ in the core beliefs of ahmadiyya movement. They do this to be accepted by Muslims, and have their own political agenda. Whoever leaves this jamaat and makes its own does so by His own will.

**Mr. Popat **– You have accepted the right of jamat e ahmadiyya to reject any deviants from Ahmadiyyat and have kicked them out of the fold of Ahmadiyyat because “They differ in the core beliefs of ahmadiyya movement”.

Now you must accept in the same spirit the right of Muslims to reject Ahmadiyyat as deviancy because it differs in the core beliefs of Islam.

Sorry, your rejects don’t come part of ‘us’. Ahmadiyyat itself is a complete reject off-shoot of Islam.

@Mr.Popat

Simple rule.

1. You profess you are that 1 jamaat. Rest of them belong to the other 73 sects
2. You see that one jamaat who has the nusrat of Allah with them
3. You analyze their beliefs based on Quran,sunnah,hadith
4. See who is following the footsteps of Huzur PBUH and sahabah(ra).
5. You have yourself that 1 jamaat.

Let’s apply your simple rules

1. With absolute certainty and confidence – and the rest 72 are deviants with varying degrees

2. Please try to google ‘the fastest growing religion’ and you will come to know who has the Nusrah of Allah Almighty.

Even after more than a century your so-called khaleefahs have not established shariyah and are living under and abiding by the rules of British State whose head, the Queen, is the Head of Church of England. The very Church that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani had claimed to have destroyed. Very Ironic right? If your Jamaat had Nusrah from Allah Almighty your ‘Khalaafat’ would have been established in the vicinity of Islamic lands. Allah Almighty in His Wisdom has kept your far away from the holy lands. Why does not the Nusrah from Allah Almighty help your leaders perform Hajj? Ahmadis who perform Hajj do so pretending to be Muslims and never as Ahmadis, right?

3. Ahmadiyyat faith solely rests on the ‘wahi’ claimed to have been received by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani. He has mis-interpreted Quran in light of his own ‘wahi’ and has rejected most of hadith material. See below the quotation from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad - how vainly he rejects ahadith which didn’t fit in with his agenda.

"The basis for my claims is not Hadiths but Quran and my own revelation; in support we also cite those Hadiths which do not contradict my revelation. All the rest of Hadiths, I throw them away like a waste paper."(Zamima Nuzoole Maseeh, Roohani Khazain vol 19 p.140)

So how could Jamaat Ahmadiyyat’s beliefs could be based on Quran, Sunnah and hadith in light of above quotation of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani?

5. Your Jamaat leaders cannot be following the foot-steps of the Blessed Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Blessed Companions (may Allah Almighty be pleased with them all) because your leaders lie blatantly without fear of Allah Almighty – Just on Ahmadi population – some of your leaders claim 220 million followers, 200 million, 170 million and 70 million whereas the true figure is around 10 to 20 million.

We have gone over this before on the very board with evidence.

See for yourself – Population Fraud

Qadiani Population Lies - Exposing Ahmadiyya Cult

Factual Worldwide Ahmadi population

Ahmadiyya by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If your leaders resort to lying about population they will resort to lie about anything.

5. What you to say now? I suppose next step is to approach the Moderators to close this thread, right?