Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
Imaan say yaar, dil to mear bhi karta hai to be jaffari during travel per begum say bohat dar lagta hai (apni begum say) :D .
yeah, apni begum aur doosri begumat kay shohar ka darr na hota toh hum bhi...
Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
Imaan say yaar, dil to mear bhi karta hai to be jaffari during travel per begum say bohat dar lagta hai (apni begum say) :D .
yeah, apni begum aur doosri begumat kay shohar ka darr na hota toh hum bhi...
Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
ya akhi, i lived in KSA and those guys ate crabs like they needed to finsh the species off. and they wer enot even living abroad.
Now, so lets put aside lobster and crab, but shrimp/prawns fall under the same category and they are widely eaten in Pakistan..atleast in karachi, jheenga biryani, jhinga masala, sweet and sour prawns, etc etc etc.
so please dont make us farangi musalman the scapebakra
Bhai Jaan I didnt blame the English for making us eat Prawns..actually its more of a delicacy in our country somewhat like a status symbol. Poor people cannot afford to eat prawns and lobsters. But when people go abroad like UK, Canada...they start eating it caz of low prices. That analysis of mine is from economic perspective.... now
Lets talk on this issue from biological ( scientific) perspective
Biologically speaking, Shrimps and Fish donot fall in the same phylum category they are two different species...
Crabs, lobsters, shrimp, barnacles and many other animals belong to the phylum arthropods. In fact, 75% of all animals belong to the phylum arthropoda (which also includes spiders and insects)
Fish on the other hand belong to phylum Chordata which is not the same as Crabs n lobsters
Permittance of eating fish is in Quran and also has evidence from the hadith but Crabs, Lobsters, Crocodiles, Turtles, Lobsters are definately haraam and some of them are makrooh.
A Cautious approach is to avoid things that are Makrooh
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From seafood, only fish is made Halaal for us. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Two carions are made Halaal for us; Fish and locust. ' (Mishkaat vol.2 pg.361). Fish is classified as a Vertebra. Crabs and lobsters are not vertebras but they belong to the Crustaece group, hence, not permissible.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
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FATWA DEPT.
Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
From seafood, only fish is made Halaal for us. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Two carions are made Halaal for us; Fish and locust. ' (Mishkaat vol.2 pg.361). Fish is classified as a Vertebra. Crabs and lobsters are not vertebras but they belong to the Crustaece group, hence, not permissible.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
for: Mufti Ebrahim Desai FATWA DEPT.
Khan Sahib, yahaan Mufti ko kaun maan rahaa hai kay Yai un kaa fatwaa maanain gay. Yahaan to Ghair-Muqallid kee fauj jamaa hai.
Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
Khan Sahib, yahaan Mufti ko kaun maan rahaa hai kay Yai un kaa fatwaa maanain gay. Yahaan to Ghair-Muqallid kee fauj jamaa hai.
Yahan har kisi ka apna Islam hai West main. Har koi jis ko Internet use karna ata hai, woh apna Mufti hai.
Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
From seafood, only fish is made Halaal for us. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Two carions are made Halaal for us; Fish and locust. ' (Mishkaat vol.2 pg.361). Fish is classified as a Vertebra. Crabs and lobsters are not vertebras but they belong to the Crustaece group, hence, not permissible.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
for: Mufti Ebrahim Desai FATWA DEPT.
Thanks Khanbaba bhai....your reference has furthered clarified the issue. I wont be touching Prawns and Lobsters from now on....I used to eat them out of ignorance...but now i won't
Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
yaar tariq “L” khan sahab, saudis follow some mufti and some imam and according to that imam prawns and crabs are allowed, we already established in this thread that no imam is wrong.
so why is it wrong now all of a sudden? are the imam who allow crabs wrong? ![]()
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I see we've gone off on a tangent...I still don't have answer to my question guys.
Why?
Did you miss post no. 6?
Its a complete answer for you. Unless you want to hear it from some one special and are waiting. :)
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Umm no i dont need anyone special to answer it, thank you very much. I did read the post...i dunno im still re reading it and i guess i need to check the links
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can some1 special please answer my question and u may call me ignorant lol but i require clarification:
Antumul, u quoted that anythin from the sea is permissable, all plants, animals living or dead, so am i right in saying in response to afro's question this means crabs etc are permissable to eat?
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waisay toh doh mullah mein murghi haram hoti hai, yahan lobster haram ho gaya hai :)
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yup theres always 1 who thinks he's funny lol
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waisay toh doh mullah mein murghi haram hoti hai, yahan lobster haram ho gaya hai :)
Hah ha Ha .... Very funny, itna funny kay ... itna funny kay ...... (anyway, that is the extent of sarcasm that I can express)
Bhai Fraudia, aap alfaaz say khail kar kiya teer mar lain gay. Jo baat sahi hai wo aap kay mazaaq uraanay sai ghalat nahi ho ja aay gee.
Chalo, complete your homework and go to bed. Bachchon ko Baray logon ki baaton mai itna nahin bolna chaa' heeyay
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Hah ha Ha .... Very funny, itna funny kay ... itna funny kay ...... (anyway, that is the extent of sarcasm that I can express)
hmm we need to work on your sarcasm too, but lets finish the logic part first :)
Bhai Fraudia, aap alfaaz say khail kar kiya teer mar lain gay. Jo baat sahi hai wo aap kay mazaaq uraanay sai ghalat nahi ho ja aay gee.
alfaz say khail? naheen bhai, all i am saying is that some schools of thought allow eating crabs and lobsters. so just do it if you want to, some very knowledgeable people were unable to declaer it was haram, how can we.
Chalo, complete your homework and go to bed. Bachchon ko Baray logon ki baaton mai itna nahin bolna chaa' heeyay
accha phuppi jaan. but you had a typo there you meant "Buray logon ki bataon"
Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
all i am saying is that some schools of thought allow eating crabs and lobsters. so just do it if you want to, some very knowledgeable people were unable to declaer it was haram, how can we.
I agree with you (cherish these rare moments if you can, of me being in agreement with you. Is not going to happen very often)
In this thread, no one presented the absolute judgement of crab/lobster being haraam. Khanbaba said that its "Makrooh according to Hanafi". Makrooh means there is an element of doubt. Some think that its Haraam and some failed to prove that, so Hanafi's concluded right that element of doubt is there and called it Makrooh.
Hanafi's also believe that if it is Makrooh then it should be avoided just like we avoid Haraam. Its better to be safe than sorry. I dont see anything wrong with this philosophy
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Thank you, my point from the beginning is that we can not categorically declare it haram because it is not declared as such by all standard schools of thought.
okay..wait…
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…done.
may you have more such momentary lapse of unreason
true, although, we have to give people askign the question info on other schools of thought as well.
peace out..
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I agree. And I dont think that any one was pushing Hanafi Maslak on people here. Its just that no one else showed up to present other school of thoughts. I am keen to know about Hadith backing up other rulings about Crab/Lobster
Finally me and Fraudia concluded something in peace. God its a great day:party:
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I am going to go celebrate it with sushi after jummah prayers.
Re: Seafood - Crab/Lobster Halal?
I am going to go celebrate it with sushi after jummah prayers.
Just like Homer Simpson would've said
MMmmmmmmmmmmmm............Suuuuuuuuuuuuushiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii............Aggggggggghhh
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