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636 US soldiers have been killed to date, plus another 103 'coalition' soldiers, making an overall total of 739. Note, those are only official figures...
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Multiply that by a factor of atleast 3 and you wil get the real losses.
Bush at his Crawford Ranch, received an update and was told that coalition troops were "performing well".
Coalition deaths in the last three days (32):
Tuesday
• 12 Marines in Ramadi
• 1 U.S. soldier in Baghdad
• 1 Ukrainian soldier in Kut
Monday
• 1 Marine in Fallouja
• 4 Marines elsewhere in Al Anbar province
• 2 U.S. soldiers in Baghdad
Sunday
• 8 U.S. soldiers in Baghdad
• 1 U.S. soldier in Kirkuk
• 1 U.S. soldier in Mosul
• 1 Salvadoran soldier near Najaf
*Compiled by Times staff
Los Angeles Times*
Or multiply it by ten, as some UK news reports have reported ten times as many US Soldiers killed as reported:-
Earlier reports put the death toll after the “intense” battle as high as 130.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13047720,00.html
** Stick to the topic of this thread.**
Blackhawk down
BOOM!!!
*BAQOUBA, Iraq - A U.S. military helicopter crashed Wednesday and was seen burning in the central Iraqi city of Baqouba, where Shiite militiamen and American troops were fighting, a witness said. There was no immediate word on casualties.
The crash came immediately after an explosion was heard, said Mohammed Adnan, an AP photographer at the site. He saw the helicopter in flames in a field near a residential neighborhood. U.S. troops closed off the site.
It was not immediately known what caused the crash.
U.S. troops and Shiite militiamen clashed Wednesday in Baqouba, 30 miles northeast of Baghdad. During the fighting, militiamen attacked the governor’s offices with rocket-propelled grenades. *
Also, looks like the Sunni resistance is trying to step across the sectarian divide and reach out to Shia freedom fighters - As-Sadr posters are appearing in Sunni towns like Ramadi, and groups claiming to be the Sunni resistance have been issuing letters of support for As-Sadr.
Also, I won’t even bother passing comment on the following extracts …
Fighting in the Iraqi town of Falluja has killed at least 36 civilians over the past day, doctors said on Wednesday, **including 25 killed in a house destroyed in an attack that locals blamed on U.S. forces.
Witnesses said the house in the Sunni Muslim town, 50 km (32 miles) west of Baghdad, was hit by rockets fired by a U.S. helicopter on Tuesday night.** A U.S. military spokeswoman in Baghdad said she had no information on the incident.
**Among the 60 dead in the city, 26 people — including 16 children and up to eight women — were killed when warplanes struck four houses late Tuesday, said Hatem Samir, head of the clinic at Fallujah Hospital. Others were killed in ongoing street battles. **
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Thats quite a niave view if you think arabs as you call them sit on their thumbs why don't you actually research what is going on in these countries take a look at the prison population full to the brim of political prisoners.
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Arabs and the rest of the Muslim world sat and continues to sit on their thumbs while the majority of their brothers around the world live under oppression, poverty and illiteracy. Could you please refute that statement with facts instead of posting rape statistics from the US?
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636 US soldiers have been killed to date, plus another 103 'coalition' soldiers, making an overall total of 739. Note, those are only official figures...
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The kill count is not the real measure of casualties - the figure of troops too badly injured to take part in combat, or even live a normal life anymore, is much higher.
The number of American soldiers who had the impudence to violate Iraqi in this war and who were turned into cripples as recompense runs into thousands.
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We need two scores running. One is the 'official' body count. The other is the unofficial (do some educated guess work).
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To be completely honest, I'm inclined to believe the official count of the dead because a) it's hard to hide and b) gunshot and combat wounds, unless to the head or heart are rarely fatal if you can get medical treatment quickly, as the US has learnt to do efficiently because of all the wars that its waged. Most combat deaths are normally due to bleeding to death.
What they are covering up is the extent of damage to soldiers classed as "wounded". It's a nice word used to cover up their people going home missing arms, missing legs, unable to see, hear, walk, eat properly, breath properly, live without pain ... etc.
The thousands of "wounded" they've suffered (3022 in combat, 444 allegedly "non-hostile"), bears testament to the mauling that they are receiving for bombing and invading a country under false pretext.
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^ Agreed. Shame you support and back all those regimes. Don't come here after the US has backed the most tyrannical of regimes and then start saying "Look they haven't done anything." Its cos uncle Sam who keeps them in power is telling them - don't do anything! Only you could claim the moral high ground after that.
Were any of the Muslim rulers in the Muslim world elected? Is any a true representative of the people's wishes? And despite this, how many of them do you back?
Stop the rubbish Seminole. Please. Its pathetic and worrying to believe that you believe your own rubbish.
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What's pathetic and worrying is that no Muslims will accept any responisbility for their own plight. Uncle Sam this, Uncle Sam that. What about Uncle Abdul? Where is he? This continual blame displacement and inability to take any responsibility is tiresome. There are plenty of Muslim nations around the globe who are not under the sphere of American influence and they aren't doing anything to help the ummah or people of Iraq either.
Take these Shia insurgents - poor, illiterate, anti-Americans following the inciteful ramblings of a thug posing as a cleric who is scrambling for power. Because they are fighting Americans they are labeled 'freedom fighters'. They don't wan't freedom any more than the sunnis raising hell in Fallujah or the terrorist homicide bombers blowing up their own people in Baghdad. Their goal is not to unify Iraq, but to divide it.