Scores of yank terrorists killed by Shia freedom figthers in Iraq

You want to be enlightened thats intresting but doubtful how about the arab regimes are propped up by Amerikkka and Britain how enlightening is that for you because that fact even dimwits know.

As for muslims individually they are helping as much as possible in places like palestine and iraq despite obstacles from the regimes and the west labelling them terrorist at every corner.

Amerikkka and its sanctions helped killed many thousands hope that makes you proud

and another fact since your in an enlightening mood your man Saddam you owned him for past 50 years and applauded when he killled and gassed thousands more.

We also teamed up Stalin to Go after Hitler..what is your point? We are teaming up with Musharraf to go after OBL. Don't tell me you like Hitler and OBL now do you?

The point has clearly gone over you head.

You should try reading again.

Why “reasonably intelligent” non-Muslims amuse themselves by revelling in a body count is beyond me…here is an example.

Fallujah started out as the hot spot, and continues to be the hot spot. Evacuate the town and dust off the daisy cutters…

http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102672&perpage=30&highlight=fallujah&pagenumber=4

One can also post comments from other “reasonably intelligent” non-Muslims revelling in the “shock an awe” tactics that led to the slaughter of tens of thousands of Iraqi people. But I will let you first get over the “shock an awe” that American’s are now feeling all over Iraq, from the Sunni and Shia Iraqi’s.

“As for muslims individually they are helping as much as possible in places”

What a pile of unmittigated crap. Most extremist Muslims and their countries are spectators, tourists, not participants in Iraq. You are more than happy to see more Muslims die, so long as they take some Americans with them. You are far more interested in mouthing protests than doing work in Iraq. Watching Al-Jazeera, screaming Jihad in your living room and hoping that the US fails does not count as “helping as much as possible”…

Tell you what, do not help police the country, help the UN with elections. Have volunteers ready to man the polls, collect names of registered voters, and certify the elections as free and fair. Certainly Muslim countries could do this. The only problem is, after having helped with elections, many volunteers would then return home to countries where there are no free and fair elections…

So who are the real heros of iraq? Read on:

"No leaders, no goals, no future—what do Sunnis hope to gain from the violence?

Honor. Forget political or social objectives—or even attempts to “drive out” the Coalition. By killing GIs and Iraqi civilians, Sunni terrorists feel they are reclaiming the pride they lost when the U.S. military juggernaut crushed their miserable fiefdom. This explains the sense of desperation one detects in their complaints about the U.S., as well as their lack of interest in ideology, propaganda, leadership or anything that normally characterizes a true “resistance movement.” The goal of these criminals is simply to kill: a non-negotiable position that allow an enemy no chance for accommodation or truce—only withdrawal or death.

Unable to grasp such irrationality, the press insists on bestowing a more acceptable motive to the death squads stalking the Sunni Triangle. They are “guerrillas,” we read, waging a war of “resistance” against Coalition “occupiers”—as if they were an Arab version of the French maquis or the Viet Cong. The gunmen are happy to have an obliging media grant them legitimacy and offer justification for their atrocities. As the Israelis discovered with the PLO—another humiliated bandit-gang transformed into a national liberation movement by the media—even a democracy can lose the moral high ground to corrupt insurgents posing as the representatives of an oppressed people..

The real resistance in Iraq are the countless individuals attempting to build democratic institutions in their nation. They are true revolutionaries, bringing unprecedented change to the Arab world. With their bellicose religion, feeble political structures and government-controlled press, Arab peoples have all too often used violence to signal their needs, desires and grievances: terrorism, rather than peaceful protest, cultural achievement or economic competition has become the means they assert their cultural identity. And the more violence, the truer, more authentic they feel in their deepest selves—leading to that pure form of nihilistic self-expression, the suicide bomber."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12881

Sadr has always denied any invlovement in the the shia clerics death. Its abit suspicous that the cleric was killed last year and the americans decided to send a warrant out now. Well, they needed some excuse or another...

interesting that before his newspaper was banned, sadr was only critical of the 'occupiers activities'. Post-ban, hes now calling for an armed resistance against the occupiers, people have taken over gov. buildings and attacking the soldiers day in day out.

Even people who arent his usual 'loyal' followers are supporting him due to the recent killings and the unfounded accusations and bannings. So its not really the minority 'radicals' that the media would have you believe it is. Its the average joe.

Seems like the americans plan to 'supress' didnt quite work out the way it was suppose to. yeah well tell us something new.

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You want to be enlightened thats intresting but doubtful how about the arab regimes are propped up by Amerikkka and Britain how enlightening is that for you because that fact even dimwits know.
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Would a dimwit realize that is not an excuse for Arabs to be sitting on their thumbs? Does that also excuse them from educating their citizens, giving their people (esp woman) any freedoms, and one of the lowest standards of living in the world? Where do the excuses stop?

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As for muslims individually they are helping as much as possible in places like palestine and iraq despite obstacles from the regimes and the west labelling them terrorist at every corner.
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I wish that were true. Outside of providing terrorists to destabilize these areas, could you please enlighten me to all this 'helping as much as possible'?

Iraq will prove to be another Vietnam. There simply cannot be a good end to this. This whole operation has been bungled.

I am all for US allowing UN to take control in Iraq, as long as the US keeps control of the oil. Otherwise going to war in Iraq would have been a waste of time, with brave US soldiers dying for no reason.

I want oil price to go below $1.10 per gallon.

Gupta sahib the high oil prices benefit the US oil companies.. who said controlling all the oil reserves will lower prices for the ordinary consumer?

Tuesday count.

Official: Up to Dozen U.S. Marines Die in Iraq Attack
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ZLNHE0NL1Q0B2CRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=4767322&section=news

:yawn:

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I am all for US allowing UN to take control in Iraq, as long as the US keeps control of the oil. Otherwise going to war in Iraq would have been a waste of time, with brave US soldiers dying for no reason.

I want oil price to go below $1.10 per gallon.
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The days of dollar a gallon are gone, welcome to the real world...

That’s 12 more killed in just one town (Ramadi), after 8 killed elsewhere.

20 US soldiers killed today, along with other “coalition” soldiers, and dozens more injured. It seems that American’s are being attacked in a coordinated fashion by Sunni’s and Shia’s…

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No one should be surprised at the reactions here, after all we saw bodies being dragged through the streets and poked by sticks by children and adults in celebration fashion. A precedent of behavior has been set, those here merely follow it like the sheep they are.
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What about the the democratically elected, educated, highly civilised leaders declaring the killings of civilians as "colateral" damage after the "shock and awe" show.

Just saw live interview on TV, several civilians were killed by terrorist in uniform. Loved ones wow to take up arms and fight back…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/04/06/uiraq.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/04/06/ixportaltop.html

Iraq sees another day of violence
(Filed: 06/04/2004)

A rapid upsurge in violence across Iraq has seen 20 coalition soldiers and hundreds of Iraqis die in the last two days.

Supporters of radical Shi’ite leader Moqtada al-Sadr have threatened more clashes if their demands are not met.

In the last few days no less than 37 US/Coalition soldiers have been reported killed officially and dozens more injured.

The figure of US/Coalition soldiers killed since Saddam was captured in December is now approaching nearly 200 (if you believe official figures?). If anything his capture seems to have turned Iraq into a graveyard for the occupying forces…?

Do you know the Brits have already given in on one of Sadrs demand. Now what do they say??? jaab “(I)” lagi phtnay tho khairat lagi bhtnay. :slight_smile:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13047720,00.html
But the British have agreed a deal with al-Sadr’s militiamen to re-take the governor’s office in Basra, one of the incidents which sparked the current crisis.

Whats the current number of American troops killed?

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Whats the current number of American troops killed?
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Confirmed 20 terrorist in last 48 hours. Unconfirmed who knows...

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Whats the current number of American troops killed?
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636 US soldiers have been killed to date, plus another 103 'coalition' soldiers, making an overall total of 739. Note, those are only official figures...