...Say: I do not ask of you any reward

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“…Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives…” (Shuara 42:23)

The Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s.) said: “I shall intercede for four types of people even if they carry the sins of all humanity: A person who has helped my descendants and progeny; A person who has spent his wealth upon my descendants when they were in need; A person who has loved my Progeny with his tongue and his heart; A person who has considered the wants of my descendants when they were surrounded by enemies and were homeless.” REf,Qawaidul Ahkam’

If any member can explain this verse (Shuara 42:23)..

**wassalam
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surprise that not a single member is able to explain..

verse **(Shuara 42:23)..

wasslam
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Love the relatives, don't worship them.

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Assalam,

The translation that you have submitted is not entirely correct regarding the Quranic verse (42:23). The translation or interpretation that you have reffered to does not coincide or support other such Quranic verses, nor is it with harmont with other similar verses which speak of the Holy Prophet (saw) of asking no reward.

The accurate translation of the verse is:

"Say I ask of you no reward for it (my services to you), except such love as subsists between kindred."

or it could mean:

"I want no reward from you except that you should develop a liking for attaining nearness to God." (the word Qurbaa comes from Qurbah meaning nearness.)

This translation supports (25:57)

There are other accurate translations as well, but the translation that you refferred to does not support any other Quranic verse, whereas this translation clearly alligns with other verses dealing with the same subject.

Also look at (25:57), (38:86), in order to understand the verse under comment better.

Invoking Darood Sharif or Salatalan Nabi bestows blessings upon the Holy prophet (saw) and his family in the highest degree, so this is also service to his progeny, Allah bless them here and hereafter.

O Allah bless Muhammad (saw) and his wives and his progeny and his people, Ameen.

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brother from this aya'h where you're getting at, if i'm correct you're a shia. The transaltion of the aya'h isn't correct 1st of all and the hadith, i'm sure is from a shia source and i can't say it's sahih.

you need to read the ayah's before & after this aya'h. The realtives mentioned here are the Bani Quraish and the aya'h was revealed in Makkah becuase of its context.

read tafseer ibna kathir to understand the true meaning of this aya'h. And please for Allah's sake stop mocking like non believers and call your own false translations Allah's words

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How to love? by killing them or by praising their killers? as so many muslims do.

please explain?

wassalam

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Did you even read the other 2 posts? please read those 1st

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This is not a answer br.? why people know what is written in quran but do not follow?

wassalam

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Loving them by following their footstep and the way they practiced Islam and to help them when in need. Of course, we don't know who is the relative of the prophet today so we can only love them and show our respect by FOLLOWING in their footstep and follow islam like they did.

How many shia's today are following footsteps of Hazrat Ali?

How many shia ladies today are following the way Hazrat Fatima lived her life?

Sorry, I couldn't give you what you were looking for, again. Busted!

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Br. translate the ayah correctly and specially the word ** near relatives…" (Shuara 42:23) and also visit this web to know who are near relatives… and do not forget to tell me if these web masters are shia..**

http://www.geocities.com/~abdulwahid//ahlibayt/contents.html

learn here who are ahlulbaith?

and who are those who killed them?

wassalam

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I find no point arguing with you

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do you not think it was better not to speak if you are not intrested in any topic. Just think why you do not accept Quran and why you are not able to provide me correct translation if you said this one is wrong?

just think if you fear Allah.

wassalam

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Follow links below for information from the actual sources:

Who are the family Ahlul Bayt? Who killed Al-Hussain?

Who are the Ahlul Bayt

Who Killed Al-Hussain?WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE IN KILLING OF KARBALÂ?
Unmasking the other villains of Karbalâ

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Br. you said Say I ask of you no reward for it (my services to you), except such love as subsists between kindred."( 42:23...

Translations in English by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthall and M H Shakir by Religion
Once more i present translation with name of translator..

Abdullah Yusuf Ali 42:23
That is (the Bounty) whereof Allah gives Glad Tidings to His Servants who believe and do righteous deeds. Say: "No reward do I ask of you for this except the love of those near of kin." And if any one earns any good, We shall give him an increase of good in respect thereof: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (service).

Pickthall 42:23
This it is which Allah announceth unto His bondmen who believe and do good works. Say (O Muhammad, unto mankind): I ask of you no fee therefor, save loving kindness among kinsfolk. And whoso scoreth a good deed We add unto its good for him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Responsive.

shakir 42:23
That is of which Allah gives the good news to His servants, (to) those who believe and do good deeds. Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives; and whoever earns good, We give him more of good therein; surely Allah is Forgiving, Grateful.

Okay plz give me the source and i will give you source of mine translation. and then we will see which one is correct..

wasslam

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:jazak:

>you got a headache? click this thread<
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i told you to read the tafseer ibna kathir regarding those ayahs and i also told you that the relatives mentioned in the aya’h aren’t the relatives you’re talking about. The aya’h was revealed in Makkah how would it be talking about Ahlay bait?

source:
http://www.islamicity.com/MOSQUE/ARABICSCRIPT/AYAT/42/42_23.htm

What is the story behind this aya’h, i’ll post it after offering asr salah inshAllah

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Dear br. i presented these verses **“…Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives…” (Shuara 42:23)

and asked if any member can explain these verse…

In reply some said the translation of **uran (Koran) Translations in English by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthall and M H Shakir by Religion
Once more i present translation with name of translator..

Abdullah Yusuf Ali 42:23
That is (the Bounty) whereof Allah gives Glad Tidings to His Servants who believe and do righteous deeds. Say: “No reward do I ask of you for this except the love of those near of kin.” And if any one earns any good, We shall give him an increase of good in respect thereof: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (service).

Pickthall 42:23
This it is which Allah announceth unto His bondmen who believe and do good works. Say (O Muhammad, unto mankind): I ask of you no fee therefor, save loving kindness among kinsfolk. And whoso scoreth a good deed We add unto its good for him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Responsive.

shakir 42:23
That is of which Allah gives the good news to His servants, (to) those who believe and do good deeds. Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives; and whoever earns good, We give him more of good therein; surely Allah is Forgiving, Grateful.

Instead of translating or explaining these verse some started to give me links of websites who killed husain or what is karbala. Perhaps now instead of quran they started to obey these webmasters or these people do not have knowledge of quran and just following blindly the rteligion of their fathers instead of religion of Allah.

Still i am waiting for a member (true muslim) who can explain these verses.

wassalam

Test your knowledge!
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Smma, Check your reply in this thread. Reply # 10.

This is what it had:

YOU gave the links.

Busted.

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do you know translation of sura e munafiqeen? perhaps not? why you people do not want to obey quran?

why you insult respectable translator of quran like Abdullah Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthall and M H Shakir by Religion.

why? Please explain the verse and for rest start seperate thread. if you do not know plz do not reply..

wassalam

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Do you see the differences of translation between 1st 2 scholars and your own shia scholar? I've bolded those parts. The words "kin/relatives" isn't that important because the relatives mentioned here aren't the one you think they are. That's why i kindly told you to read tafsir ibn kathir regarding this ayah. Me and another brother has already explaind you but you're one who's failing to understand its true meaning and being stubborn regarding your faith. Please tell me what is the point of posting this particular ayah? What do you want to prove here?

*You expect me to argue with you when you already believe that the people who replied already aren't true muslim.
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