Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
lets not forget that pakistan will be forced to pick sides
and saudis and arabs will want pakistan to attack iran
india could take this advantage and attack pakistan in hopes of capturing kashmir and protecting its friend, Iran
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
yes. anywhich way it goes, it looks like Iran and Saudis have to duke it out. more violence in m.e.
So if Americans are against Muslims in m.e they'd simply walk out of Iraq, thus forcing Saudi and Iran into a clash starting in Iraq.
No US will NOT come to the aid of Saudis because a) US doesn't have the ability anymore to win easily and b) Iran is close to the nukes and US will not want to give Iran the cause for lobbing one into Israel. To follow thru with this LIKELY scenario, the Saudi regime falls, Iraq splits into atleast 2 chatic regions, oil prices shoot up to 200 forcing oil rationing and cuts.
Iran established a troubled Sunni empire in m.e and that sets the stage for the next cold war - Israel vs Iran. By this time Ahmedinejad is gone and so US is back in the saddle playing referee. Yup, instead of Israel and Egypt of the past, it will be Israel vs Iran.
Anywhich way you see, US investments in Israel continue pay very richly
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
Pakistan would rather lose friends than pick sides in this one. Picking sides would fan a sectarian holocaust in Pakistan.
Any Pakistani givernment bar an MMA one would be fully aware that it would be less harmful to lose our Saudi friends than join in a war against a country that is effectively symbolic of 25-33% of our population.... and soldiers.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
seeing their track record in iraq and afghanistan, i dont think iran has much to worry about these 'protecters'. lol.
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Yeah, it's not like they don't have the arsenal to do it in 2 days if they weren't worried about civilian causualties.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
civilian casualties. haha dunn make me laugh. they dont know the meaning of the word. 'soldiers body count' is more like it.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
Getting religious scholars together is useless, the sectarian violence is not because of the religious differences but power exchange between the two sides. Its just that the two parties fighting are classified on the basis of religious divide not because that is what they are fighting for.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
ma, I don't think with a heart as cold as yours I could possibly make you laugh. The US could wipe out Iran off the map without losing one soldier so don't kid yourself. Just be glad they don't have your heart or they would.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
^ They can't even get rid of the slipper-wearing Taliban...
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Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
When Iran becomes a huge glass parking lot will it be so funny?
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
gasp please no... not that! anything but a glass parking lot! :-o
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
They probably can if they saturate Afghanistan with nuclear strikes
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
No US will NOT come to the aid of Saudis because a) US doesn't have the ability anymore to win easily and b) Iran is close to the nukes
No, i think US would defiently go in support of Saudi Arabia because US(and most of the western world for that matter of fact) have too much to lose if Saudi Arabia fell to a terroirst and bigoted such as iran. Saudia Arabia is the largets producer of oil and still has the largest oil reserves int the world. Fall of Saudi Arabia would not be devastating for just the US but also other parts of the world too. Why do you think the reason for SU entering Gulf War, it was surely not for liberation fo Kuwait, it was mostly for protecting Saudi Arabia from an invasion.
And also lets not forget Saudia Arabia has always had very close realtionship with the US governemnt, and has very close relations on a personal level with the Bush family. Why do you guys think that Saudi Arabia has started relations with Israel?
Iran is nothing more then a dispecable state ruled by a crazy fanatic, and there "great" leader ahmadinijad is only digging his country into deep troubles.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
Ok, perhaps all the sand won't turn to glass, but will instead leave the great iran as a huge crater. Either way the land will be unihabitable. Is it still funny?
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
ikarhoon - you are talking about what US would like to do. I am outlining what they are capable of doing.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
you should come back and say when US can really do it, thanks.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
^ I suppose when their back is against the wall and there are no other alternatives.
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
^ you mean they could have situation like Palestinians?
Re: Saudis to back Sunni Insurgents if USA pulls out of Iraq
Ahh...the genocide option. Sure..that will work...if we pretend that China and Russia don't exist...or even France.
One thing that must be understood about the nuclear club is that unless it's a tactical nuke, the only real targets of nukes are other members. Oddly enough, the only tolerable policy is MAD. Using nukes to force a failed policy will reek of aggression that the other powers would indeed feel threatened by.
I don't see the other powers supporting the wholesale destruction of Afghanistan...so long as that remains the case...nukes are out. That is, it's an absurd scenario...may as well claim the ability to conjure up Godzilla and have him stomp on everyone.
In any case, it's amazing how you consider that a viable option...