Saudis defend Sri Lankan maid's execution, hit back at criticism

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Good for this lady.

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let me make it simple for you

do you support the practice of beheading? YES or NO

if YES and god forbidden if they ever face a murder charge in sauidi arabia, are you absolutely OK if same applies to your son or father (beheading) or will you prefer a different method of execution, ..

thx and please be intellectually honest...

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Do you agree with this post of mine?

This case has nothing to do with what I support or not, neither it pertains to any possible scenario.

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what i am asking has nothing to do with case...i am asking do you support beheading or not? don't hide behind excuses...

and no, I am not chnaging the topic at all...the question that I am asking is part of discussion...every article on this topic has discussed two topics..one weak saudi judicial system..seocnd method of execution...

so.......have some guts and say yes or no....that wont make you a bad person...why are you embarrassed...are you not proud of your religion....

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Thank you for admitting.

Now, you quoted my post but went on irrelevant discussion.

I ask you again.

Do you agree with what I said " ...no one knows about the details of this case at this time"?

If you say no. Then provide the details of proceedings over 7 years or so. And then try to deny what KSA position is by facts.

If you say yes. Then all of your concerns (including irrelevant and useless assumptions about me) are baseless. :)

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS i dont know all the facts...

and YESSSSSSSSSSSS i absolutely denounce beheading of human beings and demand to stop this practice.....what is so difficult about it to comprehend? LOL

have some respect for yourself...be a MAN!

i ask you again ...have some guts and say yes or no....do you support beheading or not...it has nothing to do with case facts..

say Yes, if you want to, it wont make you a bad person...why are you embarrassed...are you not proud of your religion ?

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Wahi murgi Ki ek taang

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Today there is no islamic state only 55+ secular ones in muslim lands which have failed to protect lives or provide people the opportunity to progress. So you are actually criticizing secularism as it has failed in these lands i agree with you on this point.

In your country America do you pay tax? oh you do kills your complaint on jizya tax doesn't it, by the way islamic state tax on earnings is 2.5% how much are you paying?

for your information jews had their golden era in the islamic state, when andulusia was lost the jews again ran to the capital of the islamic state today known as istanbul where it became 2/3 jewish in population numbers. i wonder why hmmm kinda kills you argument again that jews and others cannot live under islam which they have done for over 1000 years.

If secular democracy with its capitalist model cannot solve poverty for last 50 to 70 years when it claimed it produced the most wealth must mean its a rubbish system because the ones in poverty don't get to eat or join the party but hey guess you don't have the balls to admit that.

Stop hiding behind this fiction of secualrism solves your problems it doesn't it has endebted countries it has caused racism, it has put the world into complete turmoil you can pick a thousands problems you will find secularism as its root cause.

I know lets start with a recent one iraq lets see what this god you call secularism and its policies you worship has led to in iraq:

• Death of up to 1 million Iraqis
• 2 million forced into exile, hundreds of thousands internally displaced
• Creation of sectarian enclaves
• Sectarian warfare where there previously was none

balls in your court let the excuses flow. Your Secular Corvette needs more than a service its beyond repair scrap it and tell the driver to get on his bike and find something better instead.

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Can you elect a government based on islam Yes you can, Under islamic state you had hanfi, shafi, malaki and many schools of thought who lived in harmony there was no sectarian racism we have today thanks to secularism in our lands.

The reason we have dictatorships is thanks to colonialists they gave us this imbeciles called dictators who ruled for decades and left a system which was full of holes and impractical to apply on people whose fitra and inclinations is in contradiction to the laws of secular democracy or dictatorship.

The comment you made about banking is very telling it shows you have no knowledge of the actual islamic model on economics. The model you complain is charghing you 30% extra riba interest (contradiction if there ever was one) is a product of western institutions seeing the muslim world having trillions of dollars which could be exploited. So they sold them this candy called islamic banking looks like western banking smells like western banking but hey its got islamic sticker on the front bingo must be halal? Wrong!

Religion like chritianity hinduism bhuddism have no politcal aspects to them whatsover so you can leave them as religion as in the western defintion, Islam however is a comprehensive ideology which has a politcal aspect to deal with any problems in life and it has a spiritual aspect of whcih you already commented upon.

As an example to proove this what is the christian laws on employee rights or what is the hindu laws regarding investment contract??? don't exist whereas islam covers these in full.

If you think islam never ruled in 1400 years then i know i am dealing with clown.

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aap bus details mein ghusey rehna when any sane person can see that such practices have no place in a civilized society
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Kuch bhi kaho westerners have far more sharafat, insaniyat, decency, tolerance, politeness & forgiveness than these jaahil, buddimaagh, dimagh sey khali, zaalim Arabs could ever imagine. hence har jaga jootey kha rahey hein

**Beheadings, stonings etc. should be banned. It doesn't take a genius to appreciate that. The problem with some muslims is that we want to replicate 6th century in the 21st century but at the same time enjoy all the benefits & freedoms of the West

We should stop acting like thekedars of the so-called 'ummah' (when none exists) and when these Arabs lack basic humanity. yeh log insaan hein ya jaanwar

A friend of mine once said to me *'agar yeh gore kalma parh lein tau inn sey behtar musalman koi nahin' *... so very true

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To OP:

What's big deal in this issue. We hear/read many times that so and so was convicted of crime and gets penalty of death. What's so especial in this story? Most probably its related to Saudi (Arabs) and Saudis are Muslim and all Muslims are related to Islam.

In Islam 'blood for blood and if accepted then 'ransom amount' is given instead death penalty', regardless to the age or nationality. I read somewhere that in Alabama USA, penalty of 'murder/killing' is death with no limitation in age in some circumstances and life imprisonment in jail if convicted guilty of kidnapping.

Every country runs their own laws so the country Saudi Arabia followed their law but it become more interesting and catched eyes of many internationally b'coz it is related to "Islam". And by pushing forward such news somehow they atleast convince many others that Islam is intolerance religion owned by barbarians and to increase hatress against Muslims and degrade Islam by any possible way.

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Thanks for sharing this. yeh parh kar tau meri aankhon mein aansoo aa gaye, yeh Saudis insaan hein ya jaanwar

Imagine the plight of this poor, helpless Sri Lankan muslim girl. She was 17 at the time when the tragedy happened in 2005. She had no access to a lawyer, no access to anyone from Sri Lankan embassy until after forced confession.
And then **imagine her last few moments **(knowing deep down she was completely innocent) bent over, enshrouded in a white sheet knowing her head would be brutally severed with a sword any second! Tragic! May God bless her soul and grant her paradise, Ameen.

Good on this author for exposing barbaric Saudis. I must say that when it comes to quality of content and debate, Dawn is right up there with some of the best newspapers in the world. Some of the best and most thought-provoking articles I have come across recently have been published in the Dawn :k:

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If you believe in partial truth and selective justice and have no problem with some of these archaic practices (I am not against the death penalty for the most serious crimes) then good on you

Yes we are muslims but I don't really approve of or look up to the Saudi version (Wahabi or Salafi) of intolerant, backward, extremist Islam. Until recently women weren't even allowed to drive in Saudi

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I wasn't talking about the actual crime nor I believe in partial truth and selective justice. I was talking about 'Islam' is that only related to saudis? Does other Islamic countries are not related to 'Islam'?

What driving has to do with this topic or with 'Islam'? In that case many other things also be considered such as alcohol, drugs, bars, night clubs etc., in some countries it is allowed and in others r don't.

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Thank you again for another admission.

So at least in this case you have no idea what really happened. :slight_smile:

The thread is not about me or what I support or not.

Refrain from name calling or personal attacks unless you want to be called names in return.

Why should the detail be ignored or not sought after, before making any judgment?

:confused:

Different countries have different laws by the way, regardless anyone agrees or not.

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yes you are dealing with a clown and this clown suggesst you go read unbiased history outside nasim hijazi novels…

there was never a “true muslim state” based on “islamic jurisprudence” ever in our entire history… umayyads, bano abbas, Ottomans, Umayyad](Muslim conquest of the Iberian Peninsula - Wikipedia) in spain, mughals in india…all of them were nothing but dictatorial muslim kingdoms where a king used to rule and his word used to be final…yes there used to be qazis but they were only speakers of kings…even when imam hanifa or shafi were alive, they were tortured by muslim kings…

when a muslim king used to die, his strongest son would replace him … so they were not islamic states where a proper jurisprudence or election system was in place so to speak…

and yes, some kings were better than others…some were secular, some were very religious but NO Islam never had power to implement itself as a “sole source of constitutional, bureaucratic and jurisprudence” firepower based on which a true Islamic state could be governed … plus over time islam like any other religion had hundreds of sects…and it became practically impossible to implement one sharia…

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also, when Islam could not deliver a "pure muslim sate" for 1000 of years, jahil muslims came up with a slogan** "islam has everything in it to run a state but we muslims are corrupt plus west is doing conspiracy against us".... **

in the mean time west shunned Christianity and chruch and opted for secularism and democracy to run states ...

Muslims on other hand never had courage to accept that if followers of a certain religion are the most pathetic ones and are declining across every spectrum , then that religion can not be the best one and may need some careful evaluation to reignite its core focus.....plus muslims never thought that maybe a religion does not have power to be implemented at societal level...

it is called common sense which Muslim masses unfortunately lack!

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i asked you a very simple question…and i am asking again and again so that every guppy can see that some people dont have courage to announce what they believe in…they are embarrassed to embrace publicly what they believe… yet they keep on commenting on every issue with authority and create confusion..this is what pakistani masses have done on taliban and extremism issues…

you asked me a question and Alhamdo-llillah I gave you a clear answer with no ifs and buts…NO, i dont know all the facts of this case but YES as part of my belief, i do not support beheading or stoning at all…

so, Mr musliman champion, do you believe in practice of beheading or not? Yes or NO… dont hide behind excuses…i.e. saudi culture, case facts etc…everyone knows by now you are not answering the question…

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la howla walla quwata billah......those states were kingdoms not "islamic states"...and the best ones believed in secularism treating everyone equally...we never had a hanfi state or sahfi state.....we never had a"muslim government"....

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:hehe:

I on the other hand asked you completely relevant questions.

You are the one who commented on KSA judicial system without knowing all the facts of this case. I never ‘created’ any confusion or said anything authoritatively on the case. Read all my posts above.

I already said your question is irrelevant and has no meaning at all to me. There are no excuses. Period.