Saudi woman seeking asylum

Rahaf al-Qunun, 18, refused to board a flight from Bangkok and barricaded herself in her hotel room.while in transit during stay at Bankok, trying to make sure she doesnt go back to Saudi Arabia.

She started a twitter-storm (a term now only used for one crazy president normally) about her life being in danger in SA. But the most noteworthy part is that she doesnt like all the limitation imposed by Islam and implemented by Saudi Govt.

I would say, this trend will bring more people come forward and follow the suit. Go somewhere, seek asylum, tell them you are abused by the religion.

While that may be happening or no is a separate story, but the trend is dangerous.

Rahaf al-Qunun: UN ‘considers Saudi woman a refugee’

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A Saudi woman who fled her family and refused to leave a Bangkok hotel has been declared a legitimate refugee by the UN, the Australian government says.

Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun, 18, refused to board a flight from Bangkok to Kuwait on Monday and barricaded herself into her airport hotel room.

She said she had renounced Islam, which is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia.

The UN’s refugee agency has referred her case to Australia for possible resettlement.

Thai immigration officials had initially said she should return to Kuwait, where her family were waiting. She then started a social media campaign, live-tweeting her case and attracting international attention.

In a brief statement, Australia’s Department of Home Affairs said it would “consider this referral in the usual way”.

Ms Mohammed al-Qunun posted a message on Twitter following the announcement, saying: “Don’t let anyone break your wings, you’re free. Fight and get your rights!” [IMG2=JSON]{“data-align”:“none”,“data-size”:“full”,“src”:“https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/socialembed/https://twitter.com/rahaf84427714/status/1082964233615097856~/news/world-australia-46806485”}[/IMG2]

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Refugee status is normally granted by governments, but the UNHCR can grant it where states are “unable or unwilling to do so”, according to its website. The UNHCR says it does not comment on individual cases.

Now that Ms Mohammed-al Qunun has been given this status, another country must agree to take her in.

Officials in Australia have hinted that her request will be accepted.

“If she is found to be a refugee, then we will give very, very, very serious consideration to a humanitarian visa,” Health Minister Greg Hunt told the ABC network before the UN determination was made public.

But Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton warned there would be “no special treatment” for Ms Mohammed al-Qunun. [HR][/HR]‘Rahaf is an inspiration’

**‘Sara’, Saudi woman speaking to **BBC OS on the World Service

Rahaf is an inspiration. But she’s not the first one who did this and definitely not the last one.

What we are going through is awful. We think about this every day because us women here do not know what it feels like to go out. We don’t know what freedom tastes like.

Dad keeps my passport with him all the time, we go to hotels and he puts it next to him when he sleeps.

Unfortunately it’s not a revolution. Every girl that is tweeting about this, it’s either that she has already escaped or she’s using a fake account like me. Some people tweeted me or DMed me to tell me to use my real account, for me to be brave.

We do not want the guardianship any more. I want to go out of the house and drink coffee from Starbucks. I don’t have to take my whole family. This is just way too harsh on us.

Living this life is exhausting. [HR][/HR]Why did she claim asylum?

Renunciation of Islam is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia.

“My life is in danger,” she told the Reuters news agency. “My family threatens to kill me for the most trivial things.”

A spokesperson for her family told the BBC that they did not wish to comment and all they cared about was the young woman’s safety.

Campaign groups like Human Rights Watch (HRW) have expressed grave concerns for Ms Mohammed al-Qunun.

Phil Robertson, Deputy Asia Director off HRW, told Reuters: “She said very clearly that she has suffered both physical and psychological abuse. She said she has made a decision to renounce Islam. And I knew once she said that, she is in serious trouble”.

On Tuesday morning she retweeted her original appeal for asylum, pleading for the UK, Canada, the US or Australia to take her in. [IMG2=JSON]{“data-align”:“none”,“data-size”:“full”,“src”:“https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/socialembed/https://twitter.com/rahaf84427714/status/1082005189874221056~/news/world-australia-46806485”}[/IMG2]

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How did the case unfold?

Ms Mohammed al-Qunun says she was on a trip to Kuwait with her family when she fled on a flight on 4 January.

She was trying to head to Australia via a connecting flight in Bangkok.

Because she did not have a visa to enter Thailand, Thai police had denied her entry and were in the process of repatriating her, an official said.
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She began to live-tweet her ordeal, sharing her Twitter password with friends so they too could assist in spreading the message on social media. But some social media users in her own country strongly criticized her actions.

A video showed how she resisted deportation efforts by hiding in an airport hotel room, putting a table against the door to stop people from entering.

She told the BBC: “I shared my story and my pictures on social media and my father is so angry because I did this… I can’t study and work in my country, so I want to be free and study and work as I want.”

Ms Mohammed al-Qunun has been housed in a secure location in Bangkok since Monday night, when the Thai government allowed her to leave the airport.

Her father and brother have arrived in Thailand but she is refusing to see them.

Thailand’s immigration chief Surachate Hakparn said the pair would remain there until it was clear where Ms Mohammed al-Qunun would receive asylum.

Mr Surachate said the father had denied allegations that the family were abusing her physically and emotionally.

“He wanted to make sure that his daughter was safe… he told me that he wanted to take her home,” he said.

Her latest tweet today:

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Alright, this marks the true beginning of a trend where more confused souls will play victim, obtain a ticket to the west, free load, and become popular for absolutely nothing.

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Needless to say, she’s taking advantage of the Khashoggi news.

You have our sympathies lady. Well done. applause

I stopped reading at this. My sister goes out with her friends to eat often. Cousins and I, all females, go out to malls, caf? without our parents or male members. God knows which city she lives in. It’s true that the country has some issues, but her comment is an exaggeration. We’ve been going out with friends for years with no problems. In my city, women go out alone with no problems.

Very sad that exmuslims are on the rise

LP thanks for your insight.It was really needed in the light of what was and will be broadcasted for next few. You know west loves this kinda sensation.

But [USER=“74589”]Sheeda Pistol[/USER] is right. It falls on MBS in many perspectives. On one side he “took care” of opponents like Kashogi On the other hand he is hell bent to tilt SA towards a moderate version and all those steps are coming all of a sudden. Its just creating confusions and leaving the state out of balance. Lets see what happens next.
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Can a woman go alone to Starbucks. If answer is no, then yes there is a problem

Very disappointing response from a ?liberal? who voted Democratic in the US but opines this woman is exaggerating!

Maybe the west has a point. Vast majority of Muslims cannot see beyond religion. They cat even acknowledge when women are being abused ina repressive country such as Saudi Arabia.

Donwe really think a lady living in Saudi Arabia who commented here will be saying the whole truth considering there could be repercussions

Are you for real!??? :rolleyes:

Thats the difference between a plain sighted person with little or no knowledge and the person who sees the facts, analyze it and judge it as per that. I’m who I’m which also includes not being ignorant.

There is some manipulation here the way I see it. Just like anyone else you can believe whatever you want.

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Yes. Is your experience real is the question, or are you sugarcoating the experience of women. Totally understandable as you line under a repressive regime

We?re exactly is the manipulation. Is a woman allowed to go to movies alone. To restaurant alone. Is there a dress code for women that is enforced by law. List goes on.

So…a young lady left her religion and can possibly face extreme punishment because of that decision and is already being mistreated by her family…and people’s concerns are about her making the country look bad. Lmao. Priorities I guess.

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Lakum deenukum waliya deen

no brother i am not interested in a run away misguided and misadventurous girl, she is not a proper Muslimah

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**There is always three sides of the story.
My side, their side and the real story.
I believe there is an inside story in her case too which will be out in coming days.
I wont blame just 18 years old teenage girl, who is being played by ‘activists’ living abroad, so called her friends.

The activities of,
Having friends in Canada, US etc who actually were running her account and handled her compaign at social media…
Travelling to Thailand without her parents and still blaming father keeping the passport…
UN and HRW taking actions immediately…
Her renunciation of Islam…These and many other activities are doubtful.
Everyone knows and understands what is the role of western media and western lobby in such situations, as we have many examples of such and thats what making it suspicious.

Saudi Arabia has population of about 30 million people. Half of them are females. Its amazing that according to some, suddenly a teenage girl represents the whole nation…Is ka mtlb ye hua k 15 million ladies starbucks jane se bethi hui hain :smack2: … Starbucks kon jata hoga phir?? UN aur HRW k agents???

I feel its very unfair and stupidity to think that what happened to this girl is because of Islam. Islam has nothing to do with what is being portrayed by both sides. Even if she has some issues with the country laws or with her parents, thats just a cultural thing, nothing to do with the Islam.

And I think, believing that ladies are not allowed to travel or go to restaurants/cafes/shopping centres without male guardians in Saudi Arabia or in any middle-eastern country, is another level of extremism.

There is a difference in ‘ladies going to places with/without their female friends in a full freedom by their own’ and ‘going out with opposite gender in mixed gatherings’. Understanding and respecting this difference is what we say a ‘neutral thinking’. **

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^ Not sure if Islam is blamed. The repressive regime with an archaic interpretation of Islam is certainly to blame. Why are people defending Saudi AntiMahilaiya

Southie you are utterly confused here. You are neither getting the point nor possibly trying to understand it.

Let me try to breakdown for you, though in previous xperiences, it never helped but why not try again.

She blamed her family. Thats fine. Its a domestic issue then, no? Just answer in yes or no.

Ok once you answer that, then follow the pattern. For many hours after she blamed the family through the twitter accounts run by her friends, nobody paid much attention.

She locked herself in the hotel room.

Still Thai officials tried to deport her the way their policy is.

And then since the domestic abuse didnt get much attention, she started tirade against Islam. The whole campaign started on the base of how she hates Islam and clearly stated she doesnt want to pray, doesnt want to do hijab and doesnt want to comply with any restrictions.

and BAM, all the western countries, from media to govt turned their attention towards it. Thai officials were told to back off. And each country started talking which one is going to take her as a refugee. Australia stepped first.
Its the same Australia who denied Syrian refugees very strictly or anyone who attempts to reach there.

So yes, now you can jump up and down and enjoy how west has a point or wutever.

I’m 200% sure you’ll still not see the manipulation. Because you dont want to. Thats the difference between me and you. I aint a ignorant. Gain full knowledge of the incident, analyze it and then make a conclusion.

So in simple words, it was a different issue, but just the case been built against religion so a asylum is got. If you dont see it nothing much can be done to help.


Now the 2nd part I want to address of you taking a jab on me being a liberal. Remember 2016 threads? I’m a liberal but a moderate one. Not a extremist on far-left who rather have a lunatic win the election than voting for a moderate woman.
May be you should continue chanting “Lock her up” in the streets like it was done in 2016 Dem Convention at Philly. Just saying

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