Saudi Tortures YOUR Brothers

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What emotional falsehood!

“antiobl”

We ask you and the rest of your ilk on this board, who have nothing better to do except bad mouth the Mujahideen: Show us the way Jihad is done. Show us the real Methodology of carrying out the Jihad. Please enlighten us. If the Mujahideen are wrong and retarded, please go and show them how to do it, instead of being the lazy cowards you are.

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These butchers just beheaded two innocent Pakistanis, and you need proof!
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Innocent? Oh really. And what is the definition of innocent?

Are you talking about the Pakistanis who were working for a Kuwaiti Company which had been subcontracted to supply foods to US occupation forces in Iraq.??

So much for their innocence.

This is assisting the Kuffar against the Muslims. This is helping the U.S. This is giving victory to the U.S. Thus, it is Apostasy - No doubt about it. And no excuses are made for these men who betrayed the Ummah of Muhammad.

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These butchers left their homes for shear fun of picnic. How many of them got killed by Russians? 50?
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Indeed, you’re a pathetic loser.

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These cowards were hiding in Tora Bora feasting on lamb kabobs while Afghans and Pakistanis were kicking Russian A$$.
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May Allaah humiliate the Liars.

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They want to kill and maim innocents. They can't fight regular armies. Bunch of nuts claiming to be Allah soldiers. My foot.
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Dude, again you and your ilk have not showed us which “innocents” were killed. The Companions when they went on operations would kill “innocents” by accident. It happens. Get over it.

If only you apologetic Muslims cared as much about the innocent Muslim blood that has been spilt.

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Oink BL, and his Egyptian cohorts has been a declared terrorist since 1984. Please do not mix Afghan warriors with these cowards.
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This is such a retarded statement.

I will not even explain why, I think it is absolutely obvious to anyone who has any knowledge on the Afghan Jihad as to why your statement is so ridiculous.

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American forces are there because these terrorist created anarchy in Afghanistan and the Mideast. Innocent Afghans got duped by these beardos and got totally destroyed. Ask an Afghan what he feels about these brothers and he would show you the way.
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I know many Afghans. I know Afghans who still have their families back there, and they are begging for the Taliban to come back. They are waiting for the days of the Sharee’ah to come back.

You're just an emotional anti-Jihadi who parrots nothing but what your masters from White House and Downing Street feed to the Sky News, CNN etc.

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These anarchists should be "chucked in torture cells" because they are beheading and bombing innocents in Saudi Arabia and other countries.
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What innocents. You apologetic, Kuffar lovers can’t prove anything. How are they innocent? Prove it from the Sharee'ah and not what some information which a Kaffir feeds you.

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It is a shame that people mix these coward-anarchists with brave Afghans. Afghans were the true holy warriors who faced Russian onslaught and lost 2 million+ of their population. Thanks to the logistical support, and training by US and Pakistan, those warriors finally kicked Russians out.
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lol

In what direction do you pray?

Just curious.

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So please save us from your lectures made of selective quotations and religious sounding terms. It is time for you all to repent and ask forgiveness from Pakistani minorities. I hope they may forgive you otherwise you would be standing at the gate of hell along with your coward "brothers" from SA.
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Ah, indeed the effects of Ignorance are severe upon the people as is witnessed here.

We don't need to ask forgiveness from the people living in Shirkistan.
But, yeah we all need to trun in Repentance. Thanks for the reminder.

It is you and your likes who should turn in Repentance for your lies and slander upon those who left their homes and the worldy materials to defend the innocent men and women and children amongst this Nation.

All of the apologetics who replied on this thread - What are you doing?

Why don't you go to 'Iraq and show the whole world how the Jihad should be done since you all seem so "knowledgable" on these issues, and are speaking for Islaam.

You are nothing but dogs.

Dogs who love to bark

and bark

and

bark

and bark..

and then

bark some more!

But your barking will never affect the Jihad or the resolve of the Mujahideen as Sheikh al-Maqdisi has said. The people of the Jihad are the Guided ones of this Nation as told to us by our Predeccessors. They do not care what you and your likes think of them. Pathetic losers, who chose a retarded life of showing your hatred towards the Believers and your love and alliance towards the Disbelievers who fight the Religion of Truth.

Fear Allaah, all of you. Fear the Punishment. It will happen to you sooner rather than later. As Allaah said if you march not forth, then He will replace you with other people who will not be your likes.

Oh, and say these brothers who were tortured did actually kill "innocents" : What is the Sharee'ah punishment? Is it to rape their women? Is it to torture them? Is it to punish their families? What is the punishment. Let us know since you all seem to muftis and scholars who know the ins and outs of Jihad and its rulings.

May Allaah bless our Prophet and his Companions who strove so hard to make the Word of Allaah the higher most.

Wow!... calm down sister... "Thus it is due to mercy from Allah that you deal with them gently, and had you been rough, hard hearted, they would certainly have dispersed from around you..." (Qur'an 3:159)

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Wanna watch your language gorgeous? :flower1:

Your religion is not the same as mine, in my Islam we do not kill and hehead innocents.

I was going to reply furthur but your rationalisations of such atrosities is why muslims have a bad name and not only that I doubt you can reason with a person who has justified a beheading .

Let me make it clearer, these animals, instead of educating their poeple decided to kidnap non soldiers put knives to their throat and slit them, there must have been blood and bone, but that was cut through, what kinda person does that?

And more importantly, what kinda person supports it?

Looking at your Nick "At-Tawheed"

and then looking at the title of your thread " Saudi Tortures YOUR Brothers"

It becomes pretty obvious that you consider yourself an outsider, otherwise why would you Say YOUR in bold letters, hereby implying that the tortured persons have nothing to do with you.

So why dont you go and First of all do some investigation about who and what you are.

regards,

Aejaz.

NB: I didnt even read your post, just your nick and the title was enough to put me off!!!!!

Truthful, Trustworthy, Tolerant

What and diatribe from a Tribal, and Insane Neanderthal (TIN) cup!

Who are the “We” here Mr.? Bunch of butchers?

** Jihad is fought by those who are the most Truthful (Sadiq), most Trustworthy (Amin), and most Tolerant (Merciful). **

These coward-anarchists are neither of these. Talk is cheap. Put your life saving (if you have any) in Oink BL’s pocket and then give us lectures.

Let’s all roll :bailan: some TIN cups

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Wow!... calm down sister... "Thus it is due to mercy from Allah that you deal with them gently, and had you been rough, hard hearted, they would certainly have dispersed from around you..." (Qur'an 3:159)
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: )

Jazaakhallahu Khair for the Reminder.

But, we are allowed to be harsh also.

Were allowed to show our anger for the Sake of Allaah.

People like this all they have done is apologise and make excuses for the Kuffar.

They bring no proof for their claims.

They make me angry for the Sake of Allaah cause they lie upon the Religion and lie upon the Mujahideen.

So, now your going to bring the example of the Bedouin who urinated and how calm the Messenger of Allaah was etc.

Likewise, I can bring you many other examples of harshness used by the predeccessors.

Oh, yeah and I don't think I was harsh. It was just the truth. What do you call someone who defames the Mujahideen without proof?

Indeed he is a loser. A loser in this Life and the Hereafter for he will be giving his good deeds away to those who he slandered.

As for describing them as dogs. Then, this was the description given to them by Sheikh al-Maqdisi [may Allaah free him soon]. And indeed it is a beffitting description for those who love to slander the Mujahideen and speak for Islaam and jihaad without Knowledge.

: )

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Your religion is not the same as mine, in my Islam we do not kill and hehead innocents.
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May Allaah have Mercy on you and us.

No offence to you. But what innocents? Did you read the post? Them Pakistanis were not innocent. They assisted the Americans. And again, no offence, but I don't really want advise from someone who says that beheadings are Haraam.

The PROOF for the validity of beheadings has been given in another thread.

Maybe you didn't read it??!

Or if you did read it.. Then you reject it???

No offence. But, let us take the whole Islaam and not what suits our whims and desires.

Note: I never supported the beheadings. I just said the Pakistanis who were killed, were assisting the Americans and thus the ones who assist the Disbelievers against the Believers deserve to be killed.

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Looking at your Nick "At-Tawheed" and then looking at the title of your thread " Saudi Tortures YOUR Brothers
It becomes pretty obvious that you consider yourself an outsider, otherwise why would you Say YOUR in bold letters, hereby implying that the tortured persons have nothing to do with you.
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The reason why I put that was to emphasise the fact they are the brothers of the Muslims on this board.

I guess I am just used to our Sheikh and the way he speaks to us as he always says that:

“Your Prophet went to Madeenah and…”

“You grand-fathers, the Companions..”

“Your mothers and sons in Phalestine…”

"Your Rubb Revealed.."

He does this to emphasise the fact they are something important to us.

And it works on us. But oh well, guess were all different.

Point taken.

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Jihad is fought by those who are the most Truthful (Sadiq), most Trustworthy (Amin), and most Tolerant (Merciful). These coward-anarchists are neither of these. Talk is cheap. Put your life saving (if you have any) in Oink BL's pocket and then give us lectures.
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Where does it say that?

As I said since you people who have the “correct understanding” on Jihad, go ahead and show the Mujahideen how to do Jihad. I’m not the one who is bad mouthing them and back-biting them. The West has colonised your mind.

The point is:

You and your likes, who have nothing better to do, except lie upon and slander the Mujahideen and say their Jihad is anti-Islaam and messed up etc without one single proof for your lying claims.

Set the exmaple, teach us and the whole world how Jihad is done!! Go to 'Iraq, go to Sheeshaan, go to Indonesia and SHOW US HOW THE REAL JIHAD IS DONE AND IMPLEMENTED. BECAUSE IT IS YOU WHO IS THROWING AROUND ACCUSATIONS AND SLANDER WITHOUT PROOF. SINCE YOU SEEM SO KNOWLEDGABLE AND MADE YOUR SELF AN AUTHORITY ON ISSUES OF JIHAD SHOWS US THE CORRECT PATH TO TAKE.

Otherwise be queit and stay silent.

If only 'Umar ibn al-Khattab was here with us today with his whip in hand. May Allaah be pleased with him.

Peace be upon those who seek the Guidance.

how many people fall for this kuffar vs momin melodrama? it might fool villagers in muslim majority countries, but i doubt there'd be that many suckers among those who live in the west.

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how many people fall for this kuffar vs momin melodrama? it might fool villagers in muslim majority countries, but i doubt there'd be that many suckers among those who live in the west.
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You should get out more. Muslims in west under media and government onslaught or did'nt you notice!

At-Tawheed
pata nahi kyon humara dil aap ki baat se pori tarah mutafiq/motamyn nahi.

^^ What does that mean?

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jaisa ke hum nay Arz kia ... Humain nahi maloom kiyon par humara dil aap ki baton par kuch matmayn dekhai nahi dayta. kiyon kaisay ka hum bata nahi pain ge.

waisay aap hain kahan se?

** antiobl said:
Jihad is fought by those who are the most Truthful (Sadiq), most Trustworthy (Amin), and most Tolerant (Merciful). OinkBL and other coward-anarchists are neither of these. Talk is cheap. Put your life saving (if you have any) in OinkBL's pocket and then give us lectures.**

Talk about his ignorance when Mr. Toe-Head says

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Where does it say that?

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Wish you could leave Sheikh Batisi and educate yourself. Don't you even know who was the most Sadiq, Amin, and Merciful? I'll give you a hint, he happens to be the same person who taught us the concept of struggle and Jihad?

What a pity!

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Set the exmaple, teach us and the whole world how Jihad is done!! Go to 'Iraq, go to Sheeshaan, go to Indonesia .....

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I am already setting the example by being a useful, and law-abiding citizen of my country. How about you? How many unarmed civilians are you planning to behead today?

Sure I am planning to go to Iraq and kick some terrorist A$$. Those butchers mercilessly killed two unarmed Pakistanis. Need to hunt them butchers down and you will see Bedus hung with the poles in Baghdad. American's are much nicer. These Araabs haven't seen Pakistani revenge yet.

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Peace be upon those who seek the Guidance.
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Yeap! who seek guidance from Rasool and Allah. You better stay away from this Sheikh Batisi, and OinkBL. Daisy cutters are coming.

Where does it say specifically what you have said. That those who fight Jihad have to be the most Truthful, most Trustworthy, and most Tolerant?

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Wish you could leave Sheikh Batisi and educate yourself. Don't you even know who was the most Sadiq, Amin, and Merciful? I'll give you a hint, he happens to be the same person who taught us the concept of struggle and Jihad?
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Alhamdulillaah. I know who was the most Truthful, Trustworthy and Merciful amongst the Creation. But your statement is referring to something else:

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Jihad is fought by those who are the most Truthful (Sadiq), most Trustworthy (Amin), and most Tolerant (Merciful).
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Where does it specifically say the above?

Which ‘Ayah says that Jihaad is fought by those who are most Truthful, Trustworthy and Tolerant?

Which Hadeeth specifically says Jihaad is fought by those who are most Truthful, Trustworthy and Tolerant?

Which of the Scholars said Jihaad is fought by those who are most Truthful, Trustworthy and Tolerant?

I mean, there are examples of the Companions beheading and killing captives. Is that what you mean by tolerant and merciful?

What do you mean by this definition of Merciful, Trustworthy and Tolerant?

Allaah described the Companions as those who are “Harsh towards the Disbelievers…”

It is from the principles of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama’aah to participate in an expedition with EVERY GOOD AND BAD Muslim. As the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said:

”Allaah may Support this Religion even with a bad man or an immoral people.”

So your view of:

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Jihad is fought by those who are the most Truthful (Sadiq), most Trustworthy (Amin), and most Tolerant (Merciful).
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is based upon what?

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I am already setting the example by being a useful, and law-abiding citizen of my country.
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Which Laws are you abiding by? The Laws of Allaah or the laws of the Taaghoot?

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How about you? How many unarmed civilians are you planning to behead today?
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Again, you have not even proved anything from the Sharee’ah. Go back and read the previous posts, I asked you and your likes some questions which you seem to have ignored.

You and those like you who are spitting out slander about the beheadings etc, have not seen the thread which was filled with proof that it is allowed.

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Sure I am planning to go to Iraq and kick some terrorist A$$. Those butchers mercilessly killed two unarmed Pakistanis. Need to hunt them butchers down and you will see Bedus hung with the poles in Baghdad. American's are much nicer. These Araabs haven't seen Pakistani revenge yet.
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Disgusting Asabiyyah. Where does the Religion of Islaam allow partisanship based upon one’s Country or origin?

As for the word "Terrorist". Allaah has ordered us to Terrorise the enemy.. So I guess it's a compliment to the Mujahideen.

I mean do you think you Pakistanis are better than ‘Arabs?

Didn’t the Messenger teach you, a non-‘Arab is no better than an ‘Arab and an ‘Arab is no better than a non- ‘Arab except in Taqwa?!

Like I said above, you can not prove anything from the Sharee’ah that the killing of them “unarmed” “civilians” was Haraam.

These “unarmed” “civilians” who you love so dearly, were assisting the Enemies of Allaah – The Americans – Against the Muslims.

I mean your talking as if you’re an Authority on Jihaad but yet you don’t know what nullifies your Religion and causes you to apostate.

Strange, indeed.

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Yeap! who seek guidance from Rasool and Allah. You better stay away from this Sheikh Batisi, and OinkBL. Daisy cutters are coming.
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Oh so Nationalism is from the Religion of Allaah and His Messenger? Show us please, since you seek Guidance from the Book of Allaah. Tell us where He sanctioned it in the Religion?? Since you seem so much into your Nationalism.

It’s funny how you say

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seek guidance from Rasool and Allah
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Yet, like honestly, you have not proved anything from the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger.

Your just an emotional Pakistani Nationalistic youth who has made himself an authority to speak on Jihad when you don’t even know the first thing about it. And that seems obvious from your ignorant posts which seem to lack any understanding and knowledge of the Religion.

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Talk about his ignorance when Mr. Toe-Head says
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Wa ‘Ibadur-Rahmaan illatheena yamshuna alal ‘ardi huwnannwa itha hatabahumul Jaahiloona, qalu, “Salaamah”… (Al-Furqan 25:63)

So antiobl:

“Salaamah”*

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itha hatabahumul Jaahiloona... (Al-Furqan 25:63)

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Actually... khatabahumul... rather than hatabahumul...

Typo.

Barakhallaahu feeka for the correction.

There is probablly more, see if you can spot them.

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Where does it say specifically what you have said. That those who fight Jihad have to be the most Truthful, most Trustworthy, and most Tolerant?

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Dude! take a hike. It's your Jihad, you wanna join bunch of liers and crooks? Well more power to you.

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Wonder who are these nut cases who don't even know the necessity of being Truthful, Trustworthy, and Tolerant. Bunch of Bedus off course!

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Where does it say specifically what you have said. That those who fight Jihad have to be the most Truthful, most Trustworthy, and most Tolerant?
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If someone is killing in the name of God, he better have these attributes.

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And that seems obvious from your ignorant posts which seem to lack any understanding and knowledge of the Religion.
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Perhaps it is those who don't have a clue to who the enemies of Allah are that are ignorant. And maybe those who think Allah sanctions the beheading of those who in their minds and hearts are helping Muslims are the disgusting ones. The Americans have done more to help the Iraqi people than your beloved terrorists who are not fighting for the cause of Allah, but for the power to continue the subjugation of the Iraqi people. They are not righteous warriors but terrorist thugs.

BTW, where were these righteous Mujahideen warriors when Saddam was killing Muslims by the hundreds of thousands? Why weren't they beheading the torturers and muderers of that regime?

An important hadith: "This knowledge will be carried by the trustworthy ones of every generation..." (Ibn Asakir)... the trustworthy will carry Islam... the killing of innocents whoever they may be is a betrayal of trust...