Saudi Sheik: Ovaries Get Damaged When Women Drive

This would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

Saudi cleric warns driving could damage women’s ovaries - CNN.com

CNN) – A leading Saudi cleric warned women who drive cars could cause damage to their ovaries and pelvises and that they are at risk of having children born with “clinical problems.”

Sheikh Saleh Al-Loheidan’s widely derided remarks have gone viral as activists claim a website urging women to defy their country’s driving ban has been blocked in Saudi Arabia.

“If a woman drives a car,” Al-Loheidan told Saudi news website sabq.org in an interview, “it could have a negative physiological impact … Medical studies show that it would automatically affect a woman’s ovaries and that it pushes the pelvis upward.”

Explained Al-Loheidan, “We find that for women who continuously drive cars, their children are born with varying degrees of clinical problems.”

The controversial comments, published Friday, were widely interpreted throughout Saudi Arabia as an attempt to discourage women in the country from joining a popular online movement urging them to stage a demonstration by driving cars on October 26.

“This is his answer to the campaign,” Saudi women’s rights activist Aziza Yousef told CNN. “But it is an individual opinion. The clerical establishment is not behind this.”

Added Yousef: “He’s making a fool of himself. He shouldn’t touch this field at all – the medical field is not his field at all.”

Mai Al-Swayan, who was one of the first Saudi women to sign the online petition, called the comments "ridiculous: " and added, “I am really disappointed. How could somebody ever make such a statement?”

Al-Loheidan’s words have been ridiculed mercilessly via social media since they were first reported.

An Arabic Twitter hashtag called “#WomensDrivingAffectsOvariesAndPelvises” was quickly created to make fun of Al-Loheidan – underscoring just how widely the call for Saudi women to defy the driving ban has resonated thus far.

And while numerous conservative voices have supported Al-Loheidan, many Saudis believe this was an extremely clumsy way of trying to counter the popularity of the October 26 campaign.

“I don’t think it will harm the campaign – on the contrary, it will make it stronger,” said Saudi columnist and author Abdullah Al-Alami.

Since it published online over a week ago, a petition on the website Oct 26th | Saudi women driving campaign has garnered more than 12,000 signatures from those asking authorities in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to lift a de facto ban than prohibits women from driving.

“There is no justification for the Saudi government to prohibit adult women citizens who are capable of driving cars from doing so,” reads part of the petition. No traffic law specifically prohibits women from driving in Saudi Arabia, but religious edicts there are often interpreted to mean women are not allowed to operate a vehicle.

The new petition also urges the Saudi government to present “to the citizens a valid and legal justification” for the ban, demanding authorities should not simply blame it on “societal consensus.”

Many supporters of the campaign expressed dismay when reporting the website could no longer be accessed throughout the Kingdom as of Saturday.

A post on the Oct26driving.com website read, “Society wanting the ban to be lifted is apparently such a threat that the page petitioning the government to lift the ban has been blocked from within Saudi.”

Al Alami wondered if the numerous conservatives opposed to women being granted the right to drive may have asked for the site to be blocked. Still, Al-Alami said he isn’t too concerned.

“The message has been delivered,” said Al-Alami. “This is a battle we must fight. There is no U-turn.”

CNN was unable to reach various Saudi Ministries for comment.

The issue of women driving in the conservative kingdom has long been a contentious one. And while such demonstrations are extremely rare, they have been staged at least twice before.

In June 2011, dozens of women across Saudi Arabia participated in the “Women2Drive” campaign by driving throughout the streets of their cities.

In 1991, a group of 47 women drove through the country’s capital city, Riyadh. After being arrested, many were further punished by being banned from travel and suspended from their workplaces.

In addition to prohibiting driving, the country’s strict and compulsory guardianship system also prevents women from opening bank accounts, working, traveling and going to school without the express permission of their male guardian.

Saudi Arabia has been moving toward change under its current ruler, King Abdullah, who is considered a cautious reformer and proponent of women’s rights. In January, he appointed 30 women to the Shura Council, the first time women had been chosen for the country’s top consultative body. In 2011, he announced that women can run for office and vote in local elections in 2015, and in 2009, he appointed Saudi Arabia’s first female deputy minister.

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seems to be a researcher more as compared to a cleric.

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Sad indeed. Saudi Arabia seems like one big, oppressive and open-air prison for women. Women can't drive; can't travel, work, or apparently even open a bank account without the permission of their male "guardians"; and get beaten or worse if they are deemed to be dressed, even inadvertently, 'improperly.' Terrible.

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You mean he seems to be a retard rather than anything else?

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I think you have put it aptly. :hehe:

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I don't think he knows what ovaries are...

Sheikh Saleh Al-Loheidan...a "leading" cleric...how many "leading" clerics are there in this country? Last time some televangelist made the news and he was described as a "leading cleric" as well....

Anyways, the real nefareous point is that in such countries, scholars arrogate upon themselves infallibility. It might just be illegal to contradict this person....even if one is a doctor. So far, that hasn't prevented people from rightly calling this guy an idiot.

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Um, but Sheikh didn't explain what drove his mommy's ovaries to the "clinical problems" in his case.

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^ seems mother's riding camels has similar effects on the child's psychological growth.

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Some of these are shocking:

Marriage and divorce

  • A girl of any age can be forced into marriage by her male guardian.
  • A woman of any age requires the consent of her male guardian to enter into marriage.
  • A woman can be forcibly divorced from her husband at the behest of her male guardian.

Education

  • A girl cannot be educated without the consent of her male guardian.
  • A woman cannot continue her education without the consent of her husband or male guardian.

Freedom of movement

  • A woman cannot get a passport without the permission of her husband or male guardian.
  • A woman cannot travel, or take her children anywhere, without the permission of her husband or male guardian.

Healthcare

  • A woman cannot be admitted to, or discharged from, a government hospital without the permission of her husband or male guardian.
  • A woman cannot make decisions regarding medical care, including family planning, for herself or her children without the permission of her husband or male guardian.

Employment and agency

  • In the few jobs that are permitted to a Saudi woman, she cannot be employed without the approval of her husband or male guardian.
  • Irrespective of age or educational attainment, a woman cannot run a business unless it is in the name of her husband or male guardian and she has his permission to manage it.
  • A woman cannot access government agencies without women-only sections unless she is accompanied by her husband or male guardian.

Access to justice

  • A woman cannot enter a police station to file a complaint unless she is accompanied by her husband or male guardian.
  • A woman cannot file a court case or even appear before a judge without the presence of her husband or male guardian.

Source: Saudi Arabia: Women under Perpetual Guardianship of Male Relatives | Equality Now

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i vunder how exactly sheikh pai is driving his car...

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That shows how starved of good topics you guys are :D

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You forgot the most important one:

**A woman cannot call herself a woman unless her husband or male guardian says so. **

I have spent sixteen years in Saudi Arabia, and save for the enlightened 5 or 10 percent there, most Saudi men consider women their asset, an object, not a human being. I mean, most of these Arabs are at least two hundred years behind when it comes to human rights. Couple this with their backward traditions that they follow, and the situation becomes even more bleak.

But despite all this, like Pakistan (but to a much lesser extent) things are changing in Saudi Arabia.

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It would be better for them to just say the truth rather than create convoluted stories like this ... They have no shame to lie all to support their belief ...

What it is that they believe women being able to travel more openly will increase the risk of more free mixing ...

I think this is true ...

More free mixing will create more chances for more unchaste behaviour ... But only in those people who have a tendency for it ... They can't justify this will be wide spread ...

They recognise their own men may be deprived and they know their own women are to be controlled ... They don't want the sexes to be equalised and this is what they should say ... Rather than lie ...

The fact is women who want to sleep around will do so ... With or without being able to drive.

But another fact is there are many women in Arab countries who drive and never sleep around ... They are quite free and autonomous people and command awe from men who would not dare speak to them in a degrading way.

So the basic denominator is that those men wish retain something ... But they are fighting a lost battle ... Because they have already allowed satellite and Internet in to their country which is going to to change people from within ... If they had concentrated on the heart ... Rather than the limbs ... They would not need to second guess the motives of others ... And even now ... Their version of Islam ... Tells them to focus on the outward, which is why they have no commendable character ...

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cooking,cleaning,laundry have negative effects too..mopping the floors and doing laundry do loads more damage to the back and pelvis than seating the butt on the driving seat does. khotay !

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That made me laugh...sad i must say..how he views women.

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Women should not drive cars as that would morally corrupt them, but I have heard of other instances in which the car's engine was on and the male member stepped out to go to a shop and before his return back the car with women (daughters/wives) inside had been been carjacked (with the women never to be seen again).

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OMG you criticizing Saudis & I agreeing with you??? Surely, this must be a sign of world coming to an end. :D

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Don’t know whether to laugh at the stupidity of the Saudi or feel sad at the helplessness of the Bangladeshi in this video.

Very stupid Saudi Man slaves and beats you, Very sorry my Bangladesh Brother - YouTube

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Lol. So? I heard of man getting carjacked too so they shouldn't be allowed to drive either.

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^^^ Yes, but men don't usually end up as $ex salves in some Sheikh's harem, do they? The women kidnapped end up there w/o any rights or recourse to justice.