Saudi Religious Police harass Canadians

The stupid religious police again tarnished the image of Islam by harassing Canadians who were promoting Canadian Universities in Saudi Arabia. Their crime was that they were women.

Idiots. :mad:

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=87e23b69-0277-42f9-8c91-02cb1087a8f3

The Canadian embassy in Saudi Arabia yesterday protested a decision to shut down its booth at an education fair because it was staffed by women. “Such unprofessional incidents are very damaging to Saudi Arabia’s international reputation,” the embassy said in a statement following the closure at the 12th Middle East education fair in the Red Sea city of Jeddah. “Prior to the event, we specifically inquired whether women staff would be permitted at the exhibition and we were told by the organizers, the Al-Harithy Company, that they would.” The booth was closed because there were two women among the staff, an embassy official told Agence France-Presse, requesting anonymity. He said the kingdom’s notorious religious police were behind the move to shut the booth, which hosted several Canadian universities that had paid fees to participate in the exhibition targeting Saudi students. “The exhibition was a mixed event for families … making the closing of the booth due to the presence of women staff members even more incomprehensible,” the statement added. Expected to cover from head-to-toe in public, women cannot work in mixed environments in the ultra-conservative kingdom where only men work as salespersons.

But at-least Saudi Editors are reacting to such a stupid decision

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=96108&d=12&m=5&y=2007

The Canadians are mighty upset. And they have every reason to be. It was reported that some Canadians were abused and mistreated at a Middle East Education and Training Exhibition in the city of Jeddah last week. They were manning a booth to promote the different Canadian institutions to prospective Saudi students. Their crime? They were women!

Members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice closed down the booth, believing it to be an affront to the Kingdom’s laws of segregation. This in spite of the permission previously obtained by the Canadians from the authorities for the presence of properly attired women to conduct the business of wooing Saudis seeking higher education to some of their respectable institutions.

The Canadian Embassy shortly afterward released the following statement: “The closure of our booth was an unjustified, unprofessional act that damages the image of Saudi Arabia internationally. Prior to the event, we specifically inquired whether women staff would be permitted at the exhibition and were told by the organizers that they would.”

The president of the Canadian Education Network George Chrysomilides stated that this was a first in their 10-year history at the event. “From what I hear … the religious police were very rude. They shouted at them in a way that was disrespectful and they shut down the Canadian Embassy booth as well as the LaSalle College booth. We did everything that Saudi rules require. Why did they have to close it down?” said the president.

He added that in the past both men and women jointly manned the Canadian Pavilion booth, with full respect to the rules of attire.

Even when he took his wife to the event three years ago, she donned her abaya over her clothes.

And just over a month ago, a personality no less than Interior Minister Prince Naif publicly stated that “segregation of men and women is not correct,” and that “society consists of both men and women.”

In discussing the role of Saudi women in society, the minister said it “was essential” that people realized the important role played by women and the achievements they have made.

“Women have their capabilities and they have a role to play which was given to them by the Creator…Women are our mothers, our sisters, and our wives,” said the minister, urging Saudis not to promote the custom of segregation that exists in Saudi society. “I hope this would be reduced,” he declared.

Over a year ago, a government figure no less powerful than the king of Saudi Arabia took it upon himself to invite a delegation of Saudi businesswomen to accompany him on state visits to India and China. The trip was reported by the local press and broadcast media, with pictures of the king with the delegation. Obviously there was no issue of segregation then.

So why now, and under whose interpretations of the laws? Why should some people try to undermine any action or policy designed to modernize our society and accelerate the progress of this country? Where do they indeed plan on having this country end up? The suffocating reins of extremism?

What rights do people have to override established laws? And abuse others along the way?

This time it was the Canadians who were the target. Who will be next? And will it ever stop? Have they become a law unto themselves? Have they outlived their usefulness?

The Canadians are justified in stating that such incidences tarnish the image of Saudi Arabia globally. This particular incident was picked up by most of the world’s press, and has effectively portrayed all of us as fanatics. I deplore what happened to the Canadian representatives at the exhibition and offer my apologies. I am also deeply offended by the actions of the commission.

It is time that personal interpretations and beliefs of our laws and social customs were put to rest.

Instead of exerting their efforts to get rid of child abuse through beggary so evident on our streets, or protecting female domestics from abusive employers, or advancing the rights of unpaid employees, the commission appears to have only one focus in mind, and it is defenseless women!

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Takbir!

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The commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice has nothing to do with protecting islamic values or anything remotely close to it

It is basically a terror squad backed by the rulers.
The only duty is to poke their noses into petty issues and terrorize the people.
This is going to backfire, sooner or later

This incident is not something new, nor something that will turn any heads
Worse incidents of stupidity have occured in the past and the trend will continue, the Mecca girls school episode is still fresh in the memories

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^
what is that Mecca girls school stuff, you are taking about?.

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^^ Well Basically what happened was there was a Fire in a Makkah All Girl School.

When the girls ran out, the Saudi Religious Police came and pushed the girls back into the burning school because they didnt have their burka with them. They locked the school and 15 Girls burned to death.

Here is the story:

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^
Thank you.

okay that is just unacceptable - am surprised Saudi public didn't protest or anything.....
Saudi govt is really out of its mind

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Saudi needs a secular democracy...

paging bush..

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That's fcuking disgusting.

Saudis (maybe Arabs in general) are well fcuked up, it's Saudi religious websites which keep putting me off Islam.

The only people who compare to Arabs in their jaahiliyyat are rural Pathans.

I know I'm going to get rotten tomatoes but somebody has to speak the truth.

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Bush...secular?
isn't he an evangelical puppet anyays?

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It was reported that some Canadians were abused and mistreated at a Middle East Education and Training Exhibition in the city of Jeddah last week.
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Abused and mistreated? Like beaten and arrested? Would it be the same as being arrested for wearing a Hijab in France or maybe heckled at for being non-Muslims?

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Exactly, these hypocrites waste no time crying foul when paid back in the same coin.

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if your drawing equivalence between the two then logically you should be opposed to BOTH in order not to be hypcrites yourselves.

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WELL SAID!!!

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**
that is the most insane thing ive ever heard** !!!
mean i cant even picture it… imagine pushing little girls into a fire. couldnt the policemen like take their shirts off and cover the girls heads or something

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It comes down to following the law of the land - not a matter of opposing one or endorsing the others.

If a woman can be barred from working in a Quebec Council only because she chooses to wear a veil, then I feel it's incredibly hypocritical on behalf of the Canadian government to start moaning on this issue, when they were in contempt of law of the land - whether one agrees with it or not.

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if Muslim countries dont look after the interests of their non resident citizens, i dont see why Canada shouldnt either. Muslim embassies dont speak up out of impotence, not cause of principles.

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I am not disagreeing with Canada's right to protest. Only thing, I am disagreeing with is the 'reason', which is based on double standards ..

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read the whole story before u jump to conclusions.

"Members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice closed down the booth, believing it to be an affront to the Kingdom’s laws of segregation. This in spite of the permission previously obtained by the Canadians from the authorities for the presence of properly attired women to conduct the business of wooing Saudis seeking higher education to some of their respectable institutions.

The Canadian Embassy shortly afterward released the following statement: “The closure of our booth was an unjustified, unprofessional act that damages the image of Saudi Arabia internationally.** Prior to the event, we specifically inquired whether women staff would be permitted at the exhibition and were told by the organizers that they would.”**

The president of the Canadian Education Network George Chrysomilides stated that this was a first in their 10-year history at the event. “From what I hear ... the religious police were very rude. They shouted at them in a way that was disrespectful and they shut down the Canadian Embassy booth as well as the LaSalle College booth. We did everything that Saudi rules require. Why did they have to close it down?” said the president.

He added that in the past both men and women jointly manned the Canadian Pavilion booth, with full respect to the rules of attire.** Even when he took his wife to the event three years ago, she donned her abaya over her clothes**."

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Theer's a strict law of segregation enforced in that country. Secondly, the president is flatly lying "that they did everything that Saudi Law requires". The Saudi law requires segragation - whether the president agrees with it or not - and they were not following the "Saudi Law"

Who granted the special permission and how was it all arranged is an debatable issue. I, for sure, don't have any details, and I am sure neither does the author of this article. So, filter out all extraneous stuff from the article, it's likely that the Canadians provoked all this..

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Once again the virtues of sharia on display. Saudi Arabia has oil money so foreigners will still keep coming, but nobody would even spit towards Pakistan if we had such insane laws.

And yes, we need foreign investment and assistance to progress, unless what mullahs think that we will progress becuase of the length of their beards.