Saudi Prince Turki says that Pal issue is an Arab issue, not Islamic issue

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Re: Saudi Prince Turki says that Pal issue is an Arab issue, not Islamic issue

Why are you DYING to have relations with Apartheid Zionist regime?
Even Jews themselves hate the usurpers of this state.

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I asked the Zionist mouthpiece here:

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Originally Posted by Prince Abbas View Post
Now the question is: WHY is Palestine so important for Jewish religious zealots?
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His reply:

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Maybe because the same reason it is also important to Christians and Muslims
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This Zionist said earlier that this issue is important for his regime because of its religious significance. And now he is saying that it is important for Muslims for the same reason as Zionists.
So it is proved that this issue is religious issue for Muslims, and certainly not a nationalistic issue.

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^^ your level of stupidity still surprises me:D

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Re: Saudi Prince Turki says that Pal issue is an Arab issue, not Islamic issue

What made you think I am stupid?

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^^ your constant banter of zionist, going on a tangent with each conversation, never articulating a managable response to the issue of Israel-Palestine instead always arguing about the existence of Israel.

So whenever me and you have a debate, the debate goes no where, because of trying to find a solution to the problem you keep suggesting repeating the same rhetoric about Israel.

Why don't you for once suggest a forward looking solution to Israel and Palestine instead of a backward looking one.

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This Zionist talked about my being "stupid" after my post no.

Let me put it again:

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I asked the Zionist mouthpiece here:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince Abbas View Post
Now the question is: WHY is Palestine so important for Jewish religious zealots?
His reply:
Quote:
Maybe because the same reason it is also important to Christians and Muslims
This Zionist said earlier that this issue is important for his regime because of its religious significance. And now he is saying that it is important for Muslims for the same reason as Zionists.
So it is proved that this issue is religious issue for Muslims, and certainly not a nationalistic issue.
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When I asked why I am stupid, he says it is because of my "going tangent on every conversation, banter of Zionism", etc.

But haven't we discussing whether Palestine is a nationalist issue (as Prince Turki said) or a religious issue? Haven't this Zionist trying to prove that Palestine is non-religious issue for Pakistanis?
And haven't my above post PROVEN that Palestine problem IS a religious problem, and that Turki is WRONG to call it nationalist issue?

How is that argument in any way be called "tangent"?

Zionist mercenary:

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So whenever me and you have a debate, the debate goes no where, because of trying to find a solution to the problem you keep suggesting repeating the same rhetoric about Israel.

Why don't you for once suggest a forward looking solution to Israel and Palestine instead of a backward looking one.
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Please stick to the topic of the thread. Do not go off on tangents.

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Re: Saudi Prince Turki says that Pal issue is an Arab issue, not Islamic issue

^^ so you are now answering your own questions by quoting yourself :rotfl:

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  • What do you mean?

  • Please give a reply to my post no. 62. (Is Palestine a religious issue or a nationalist issue?)

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^^ geographical issue

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For occupiers or for occupied?

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**** Israel and the Palestinians. One minute Arabs want to globalize the issue, the next they dont. Its best for the world is both groups are removed from existance.

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both

Israel needs security while Palestininans need a state of their own.

The Green line of 1967, should serve as the boundry.

But the green line is a major strategic threat to Israel if the Palestinians don't make peace, they can move in mortars and start shelling Tel Aviv which is 10km away.

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Re: Saudi Prince Turki says that Pal issue is an Arab issue, not Islamic issue

It is obviously a geographical problem. But what is the basis of this geographical problem? Is the basis religious or nationalistic/ethnic?

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So at least sometimes, Arabs DO think it is a religious issue. Right?

It obviously is a religious issue for Muslims. It's because of Quds. This is what Zionist Mercenary had so difficulty admitting. He doesn't want Pakistanis to cause trouble for his fellow Zionists. And the only way to make this happen is to call it an Arab issue, and let them forget about its religious value to Muslims.
Saudis, of course, are willing to offer their services to Zionists in America, who are mostly Evangelical Christians.

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the basis is the inherit racism showed by arabs towards jews that caused them to start wars in which the only losers were the palestinians

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that's quite a simple view of the situation. Wars are mostly started for economic and political reasons, racism plays a very small role. It is only utilized to gather the masses to fight for your cause, and its used by the Israeli side as well. You should be intelligent enough to see the big picture and not be a parrot-like drone, whining about racism. Get over it, racism exists no matter what, but when someone messes with your political and economic livelihood, then wars get started.

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^^ The only problem is that Arabs beleived their own Propoganda.

They thought that the Jews were weak and will not fight and both times in 48 and 67 they got their assess kicked

arabs finally learned their lesson 73 and finally fought a war not aimed at Israel's destruction but getting their territory lost in 67 back

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I agree, but everyone believes in their propaganda, including Israelis, and especially Americans.

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When one of Islam's holiest sites is in Palestine then does it make a "racist issue" by Arabs or a "religious issue" of Muslims?

By telling us about "Arab racism", you agree that Arabs took this issue as racist issue, and this is what Saudis are claiming as well. So we see that Saudis and Zionists are hand in hand.

Why are you quick to call it religious issue for Jews but reluctant to consider it the same for Muslims, even when you know very well the sanctity of Quds in Islam?

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^^ That only happened after 1967 when Israel took it over...

Before 1967, it was under Arab rule and they still wanted to destroy Israel

So again its not a religious issue but a nationalist issue based on racism and arab supremacy over the jews

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