Men on horseback and camels charged into the crowd at Cairo’s Tahrir Square, some of them lashing people on the ground with whips. Several were pulled off their animals and beaten, and the others retreated. CNN’s Ivan Watson said the horseback riders came from the pro-Mubarak side of the demonstration.
Even with hundreds of thousands of people on streets, these demonstrations were all peaceful up until now.
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I don't think so.. Saudi is an Islamic govt.. and thats what people are demanding in Egypt... They want Sharia and Saudi already has it.. why would Saudi be next?
Who says that they are demanding an Islamic/sharia law government! Have you not seen the reports? They are demanding democracy and their rights. Religious slogans by some of brotherhood members were overwhelming suppressed by slogans like "long live crescent and cross", during the demonstrations.
Google for slogans used in Egypt during the demonstrations.
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What those Western stooges in Saudi call “stability” is what is defined in Middle Eastern politics as supporting Israel at the expense of Palestinians.
But Saudis would prefer American blessing more than working for Palestinian suffering.
Listening to Israelis, Americans and Westerners discuss the Middle East, there are some words and phrases that you will hear repeatedly. These words and phrases are designed to guide the audience away from the core issues of the region.
Stability - This word means acceptance of Israel. When Barack Obama or PJ Crowley say Egypt is a force for stability, what they are saying is that Egypt has acceptable relations with Israel, regardless of the sentiments of its people.
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It is important to the United States, to Barack Obama, to Hillary Clinton that the people of Egypt are not able to shape Egypt’s policies regarding Israel. The people of Egypt must not decide whether or how to cooperate with the siege on Gaza, or the isolation of Hamas. The people of Egypt must not decide which countries in the region Egypt aligns its foreign policy with. “Stability” means that Egypt is accountable to the United States in its foreign policy decisions.
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What those Western stooges in Saudi call "stability" is what is defined in Middle Eastern politics as supporting Israel at the expense of Palestinians.
But Saudis would prefer American blessing more than working for Palestinian suffering.
They really don't care about people, they want "yes sir" governments everywhere. That is the type of democracy is being spread otherwise a 'yes sir' dictator will do.
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Who says that they are demanding an Islamic/sharia law government! Have you not seen the reports? They are demanding democracy and their rights. Religious slogans by some of brotherhood members were overwhelming suppressed by slogans like "long live crescent and cross", during the demonstrations.
Google for slogans used in Egypt during the demonstrations.
Don't trust google brother. Lot of news doesn't come out of Egypt the way things are going on there on the ground. I talked to my folks in Pakistan and they told me that.
The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdel Aziz al-Sheikh, condemned the riots in Arab countries, calling it “chaotic acts” carried out by “enemies of Islam”, to “divide” the Muslim world, according to comments reported Saturday by the local press.
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Don't trust google brother. Lot of news doesn't come out of Egypt the way things are going on there on the ground. I talked to my folks in Pakistan and they told me that.
LOL, if you said egypt instead of paksitan I think I would have found you more credible. What does the fact that they are in pakistan achieve? The media they receive is no better there than here. Either way they dont want a theocracy. And even the brotherhood havent been using religious slogans, so the outside world dont perceive this all as a fundo rally. people just want to live their lives in freedom away from the state of emergency, educated people want some employment and be able to feed their families. This rally wasnt even started by any islamic organisation or brotherhood (who are all for a democracy anyway) . it was started by people themselves on facebook in memory of khalid said, and they worked too damn hard for this so they wont let themselves be hijacked by any religious extremists. You saw chrisitans on friday prayer protecting their muslims friends whilst they were praying, this is something that unites all egyptian people from all walks of life.
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^^ Israel won't be enjoying many liberties for mass-murdering Palestinians any more, if Mubarak goes... no wonder Israel is not happy but as you said there is nothing much US or anyone for that matter can do...
i wonder if majority of Islamic country's population had been well educated and had access to many thing they can only dream of... would these dictators lasted this long???
I mean, look at Saudi, enormous wealth, unlimited resources, but not a single world class health center or School/College or University... the royals spend millions on cars, palaces and lavish life-style yet they don't care about the health and education of their people... i wonder why???
I have heard that the current king is very much like in Saudia. Qatar / kuwait have that local vs foreigner conflict and Oman is pretty wealthy as well.
Saudis have made KAUST, though right now I believe there are more foreigners than saudis there.
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LOL, if you said egypt instead of paksitan I think I would have found you more credible. What does the fact that they are in pakistan achieve? The media they receive is no better there than here. Either way they dont want a theocracy. And even the brotherhood havent been using religious slogans, so the outside world dont perceive this all as a fundo rally. people just want to live their lives in freedom away from the state of emergency, educated people want some employment and be able to feed their families. This rally wasnt even started by any islamic organisation or brotherhood (who are all for a democracy anyway) . it was started by people themselves on facebook in memory of khalid said, and they worked too damn hard for this so they wont let themselves be hijacked by any religious extremists. You saw chrisitans on friday prayer protecting their muslims friends whilst they were praying, this is something that unites all egyptian people from all walks of life.
Where did get your information from? People in Pakistan are in constant touch with their friends in Egypt. By the way, Egypt is richer than "great" India or Russia- so unemployement is not issue- people want more Islam in life like Saudi Arabia. Islamic intellectuals in Pakistan have analyzed the situation and arrived at this. My friend who used to work close to Al-Ahram in Cairo told me that Egyptian women don't observe Hijaab and people can not take their religion being insulted any more, hence this revolution.
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You’re friend most be smoking something. Egyptians want democracy, rule of law and the ability to live in peace w/o conflict. Oh and have you seen this? 10% of Egyptians are Christians.
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LOL. please oh please come to tahrir square and say all that bullplop! Come tell them that there is no unemployment in their country and they are all idiots for complaining about nothing. LOL you see plenty of women without hijab having an active voice in these demonstrations. I bet you will get your head kicked in, they will see you as a mubarak supporter lol.
Your friend (if he exists) is another one of those hijackers hijacking the protest. This protest was fuelled by the murder of khalid said. His brutal murder and mutilation by the police was the last straw. A facebook group was set up in memory of him and from there people decided to do these demonstrations and this revolution. No islamic agenda was set up. Heck the brotherhood didnt even join the protest until the tuesday after lol. And even then they didn’t use any islamic slogans about wanting shariah or whatever. The brotherhood are in for democracy anyway not a taliban style government (which you obviously love)
Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia? The dog Abdullah wants to keep mubarak in power because he is scared the oppressed people in saudi will turn against him.
The fact that you are disregarding peoples efforts. Scores got butchered in tahrir square, was that honestly over a bit of hijab?
The blogger “sandmonkey” was there in tahrir square and was twittering all about it, heck he even was arrested by the police.
And dont go telling me he’s a fake person because this source is abc. in fact a lot of american media (eg Fox) agree with your retarded view that this is an islamic revolution. I hate the fact you are supporting them in this and disregarding the egyptian peoples efforts as a “fundo ralley”
My challenge to you Javed (of la la land) go out and find some evidence, that the majority of egyptian people want to live like saudi arabia, show me a picture or a slogan or clip or anything that we want shariah. They hate saudi arabia right now!
I’m not even going to bother commenting on these “intellectuals”
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Please don’t use such harsh words for King Abdullah- he is Pakistan’s truest friend for years and I respect his family more than anyone else in the world. The Saud family gave the world this model of ruling by the Holy Quran and by enforcing sharia and yet are highly successful- more than democratic crazy bharat where people vote again and again to get poorer and hungrier.
I am not disregarding the people’s efforts. All I am saying is that they should not use violence to voice their concerns. That’s exactly what King Abdullah deplores and wants people to remain calm when they protest and not beat innocent people in passion. Violence and Islam are poles apart. Muslims can never be violent and never have been. That’s the beauty of Islam. Obviously, people are upset about something and most of them want to reject the status quo in Mubarak. This corrupt dictator is not what they want to see again- not even for a day. Maybe Muslim brotherhood can provide better governance and it will be just a matter of time before we have sharia in Egypt.You can yourself get a copy of the latest time magazine and read the cover magazine. For proof, please follow the link below:
I was reading the latest time magazine there was a mention of a poll of the Egyptian people- most of them support stoning a woman for adultery and identify them as religious.
I am quoting this from the link I pasted above:
“Among Egyptian Muslims who did see a struggle, a 59%-majority sided with the fundamentalists. Just 27% of those who saw such struggle sided with the modernizers”
Feel free to check the facts. I don’t know why some (small minuscule minority from Karachi esp.) Pakistanis bash Saudis and the King when the King has done soooo much for Pakistan. He has managed to keep the prices low in Pakistan and keep the schools running. They treat us like their young brother. Pakistanis admire Saudis overall. Even if we become their slaves, it will be an honor for us.
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I would not buy anything whatever this Sandmonkey or whatever he prides himself calling as says. He might not be a muslim. He could be a normal Egyptian. Oh, from my previous post- My friend who worked in Egypt is a Pakistani guy from Sialkot and he worked for the Al-Ahram group in Cairo as a technician. He can’t lie. O tay har vallay sachchi gaal karda nay. He complained about how bad muslims Egyptian woman are they wear pants, jeans, t-shirt and show their bodies to non-mahram. Such a sad situation.
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Fitna because the protesters resorted to violence and its agains the principles of Islam.
Oh, so now opposing Mubarak has become an "Islamic" issue?! What a joke!
Stop using Islam for your own political agendas. It exposes the hypocrite in you and Aale Saud.
Opposing a person who supports Zionists in their occupation of Palestine can not be against Islam. Giving an opportunity to an organization like Ikhwan can not be against Islam.
The one country that is MOST worried of Mubarak leaving is Israel. Second is Saudi. Both are enemies of Muslims. Birds of a feather flock together.
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Saudi calls Egypt’s uprising a FITNAH. But actually the demonstrators remained completely peaceful throughout the time. The only time violence broke out was when allies of Mubarak (read ‘Saudis’) attacked the demonstrators. Even now the country is in the hands of a well-organized military.
So there hardly is fitnah (chaos) there.
By using the word Saudis tried to give a political issue a religious tone. They only manipulated Islam. And if using Islam wrongfully for your own personal reasons, is not unIslamic then I don’t know what would be.
Saudis have no shame in openly supporting a dictator who held peace with occupier of Quds. It was Mubarak who allowed Israel to crush Gazans and put them in a large prison camp called Gaza. It was Mubarak who allowed Israel to prosper because Israel did not have to spend as much on its military budget after Egyptian peace deal.
We say why Muslims can not take out a little foreign occupier country in Middle East. Well, it’s because of Zionist-supporters among ourselves. Governments like Egypt, Saudi, and Jordan.
MUBARAK HELPED REDUCE ISRAEL’S DEFENCE BUDGET: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/03/AR2011020307157.html
After Israel signed the 1979 peace treaty with Egypt, its defense budget dropped from 30 percent of its gross national product to 7 percent, according to Giora Eiland, a former Israeli national security adviser and former head of the army’s planning branch.
I can go on and on like this. The point is that Mubarak helped the Zionists and yet Saudis consider people rising against him to be causing FITNAH?! And there are people here who call their throwing up of Zionism supporter un Islamic?!
You can yourself get a copy of the latest time magazine and read the cover magazine. For proof, please follow the link below: