Saudi Arabian Birthday Celebrations

It is widely believed that Wahhabi/“Salafi” are against the idea of holding celebrations of Mawlid. But that’s not true. They celebrate not one, but many Mawlids. Here are some of the Wahhabi/“Salafi” Mawlids we have witnessed.

1- Mawlid of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, Shaykh-an-Najd (Also, the title which was given to Shaytan), Shaykh al-Islam of "Salafis"/Wahhabis, and Imam of the Two Cities (Riyad and Dariyya):****
Every year at the anniversary date of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab's death, a great feast is held at the Ibn Saud University in Riyad (in Najd) at which time they praise the unparalleled magnificence of their beloved religious leader, listing his qualities and reciting new poetry about his greatness. All over the world, their embassies also fulfill this important communal obligation (fard kifaya). This is NOT `ibada, of course.

2- Mawlid of the State, known as National Day:
This Mawlid, similar to Independence Day, Flag Day, and Army Day, is celebrated every year in the country with international gala festivities, fanfare, parades, army reviews, podiums and thrones, and also, of course, new poems of praise and Madih recitations for the State founders and current rulers, all at colossal cost, but whatever means leads to fulfilling an obligation (fard), is itself an obligation. Of course this is NOT `ibada.

3- Mawlid of the Nation’s Century:
This was a gigantic and truly new Mawlid, the like of which was never seen before. Last year we all witnessed the great celebrations whose main slogan was “100 years KSA” to commemorate one century of freedom from the innovated Khilafa and the establishment of the Sunni Kingdom. On this occasion thousands of shiny and colorful lights, new constructions, inventive and tasteful decorations, posters, banners, placards, and other graphic art productions were displayed in public places and broadcast over the media with orchestral music, poems, and commentary of self-praise and glorification that filled the heart with warmth, love of dunya, and national pride. All Mawlids should be like this! (Needless to say, this is NOT `ibada.)

4- Mawlid of the Mufti:
At the recent passing of the Grand Mufti of the Wahhabiyya Sect, Bin Baz, it was decided by the Mawlid Celebration Board to issue a special commemorative glossy publication praising his greatness, listing his achievements and merits, and deploring his demise with big tears of sadness. In fact, the magazine cover showed a delightful, artistic painting of a series of big tears stringed together like dhikr-beads, and inside each tear there was a small Kaba. Al-Hamdu lillah, the Grand mufti is gone, the tears dried up, but we still have the Kaba!

5- Mawlid of the Ministers:
From time to time, public sessions of high praise are held for certain ministers according to worldly (dunya) merit. In a recent incident one of our brothers unduly obsessed with the hereafter (Akhira) witnessed a TV program in Madina during Hajj 1999, in which one of the Ministers was lavishly praised (madih) by a 7-year old schoolboy dressed in a formal army suit, reciting poetry he had innovated for him. The boy was called to the podium (arsh) and asked by that minister what he would like to receive for praising him so much. The boy said on the spot: "Half a million Ryals." The Minister happily granted his wish. (Jazak Allahu Khayran for such a generous, noble gesture on National TV during Hajj, so that everyone young and old should learn to praise and magnify government officials instead of reciting Qasidat al-Burda or other such things!) The brother who witnessed this event on TV, as he was pleased with the Best of Creation - the Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam) - went to the Prophet's Mosque and, standing at Bab Gibril in front of the blessed Green Dome (with other brothers who were also obsessed with Akhira), started excessively obeying the command of the Qur'an al-kareem to invoke blessings and abundant greetings on the Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam) and recite Qasida in his praise. Immediately, the guards of the Custodian of the Two Sacred Mosques went on Red Alert (special guards from the elite Talaal Badru Emergency Alert Unit) as they noticed that the brothers were committing an act of love and respect for the Beloved of Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta’ala), something known in their legal police code as SHIRKUFRBIDA (which only they can pronounce correctly). So the elite, frowning paratroopers yelled at the brothers to stop immediately this violation of the National Mawlid Law, manhandled them, and threatened them with arrest and jail unless they stopped their crime. Moral: If only those brothers had used their intellects to recite Mawlid for a State Minister instead of Rahmatan lil-Alamin (Salla Allahu ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam), they would have been several million Ryals richer today! (And this would NOT be ibada!)

6**- Mawlid of Monuments and Inscriptions:**
Unlike the preceding Mawlids which are seasonal or according to special circumstances, this Mawlid is a permanent Mawlid in Madina, steps away from the Prophet’s Mosque in the ritzy Dar al-Tayba square. It consists in a 15-foot monument in the shape of a globe topped by a dome similar to the Prophet’s dome, flanked by a flag, in the middle of a waterfall. Below, an inscription says: “In appreciation to the King for services rendered to Islam.” This Mawlid of Monuments and Inscriptions fulfills two important functions. First, it is most suitable for photography as a memento of His Majesty the King in the City of the Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta’ala alayhi wa Sallam) as, unfortunately, pictures of the real Dome are prohibited but happily, pictures of this dunya monument are welcome (as it is NOT ibada). Second, just like the inscription acknowledging His Majesty the King at the bottom of the door of the Kaba in Makkah (for every pilgrim to remember and commemorate) this monument and inscription fills the vacuum created - in the last century - by the destruction of the graves of of the great past Muslim figures who contributed over 1,000 years to the greatness of Islam. Figures such as Uthman ibn Affan who used to ride on a donkey and sleep on the mosque floor when he was caliph; Uthman ibn Mazun whose grave the Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam) personally built up; Malik ibn Anas who walked barefoot in Madina out of respect for Rasulullah (Salla Allahu ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam); our mothers the Prophet's wives; his daughters, uncles, cousins, and thousands of Sahaba all left without one sign - i.e. monument or inscription - reminding of their existence or "services rendered to Islam." But why remember them? Wouldn't that be... IBADA!?

Conclusion:
It is hoped that this brief description will help dispel the false and unjust notion that no Mawlid of any kind is celebrated in the Wahhabi/“Salafi” world today. Yes, they celebrate Mawlid, rejoice and remember like everybody else - but in their own special way, WITHOUT ibada. As Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta'ala) said: "Every party rejoices in what they have." And the Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'ala alayhi wa Sallam) said: "When someone loves something, they make abundant remembrance of it." May Allah reward everyone of them for NOT making ibada with innovated Mawlids, all according to their intention and according to what they deserve!

Bear this one thing in mind: These shayateen have the cheeks to say that Milad-un-Nabi (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim) is Shirk & Bid’ah, yet in the LA Times, they openly join in the celebration of Christmas.
So let’s get this straight. According to the Najdis:

  • a. Milad of Nabi Isa ibn Maryam, Christmas, which is actually a pagan Greco-Roman celebration, is considered to be a sacred event.

*]b. Milad of the Beloved Last Messenger, Salla Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim, is “bid’ah, shirk, kufr.”

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u believe all these lies????

saudi arabia hs only two official holidays which r eid-ul-fitr and eid-ul-adha....

they do not celebrate any such thing as a national day or whatever u have mentioned above....

please check ur sources again, cuz i live in this part of the world and i tell u that no such thing happens here....

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hehe… funny :omg: wonder which part of the hidden KSA all this takes place in…

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It's funny you say that because many of my relatives have lived in Jeddah and Riyadh for over 20 years and these events do take place because I have seen pictures of celebrating the independence of KSA - so what do you know anyways??

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well if the saudis do that then they are wrong and they are falling into Bidaah in the same way u brelvis are but u lot are deep into it.

could you just provide a source for the above posts of yrs??

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imagine a country celebrating a national day without it even being a public holiday!!!!

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This post says I have reply in here, but it’s gone…And I do remember vaguely posting in this thread…And I also remember that my post was not disrespectful to anyone…:konfused:

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anyway could bro please provide the source?? Sultan??

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:rotfl:

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Ya_Sultan_e_Madina, and what happened to the source of the article?

I think others have already clarified the stance. A few who have responded to this thread reside in KSA and/or other Arab countries.

Irregardless, even if they do all of the above, it does not in any way means that what they are doing is correct.

Nice attempt though.

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Assalam o Alaikum

Some Arabs do celebrate Mawalid, but to them it is different then what pakistani brelvi celeberate.

For them it is just an occasion to remeber teaching of Hadrat Muhammad:saw: the event may or may not be specificaly on 12th Rabi ul Awall , a near equivelent in pakistan being seerat conferences held by all groups including ahle hadith , Deobandis and others.

so just by using same terminology as arabs do Do NOT necessarily mean that they have same aqaidh / hold same ritulas in Mawlid as Brelvis do.

All in all the Mawalid celeberated in arab world is not as dengerous to your eeman as one celeberated in Indo Pak as this one include many shirkia Aqaidh.

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As a moderator sister Sadiyah, I am quite surprised that after all that has been discussed here, you continually attempt to maintain your own status quo which appeases to a certain view in these forums.

It is also quite outrageous to the extreme views held by many here, who are comparing the beliefs of the Yahudi wal Nisara to that of Muslims throughout the world. Before Mawlid was ever discussed here, all of your lot denied the fact that Mawlid was celebrated in Arab countries. Now after substantial proof has been presented, you don't deny it but talk by saying Brelvis and what not, and say things like, 'oh milad is not celebrated in such and such way as it is in arab countries.'

I know now that you subscribers to ahl' ul-hadith and the salafite cult, have absolutely no idea what muslims in the world follow. If you are so preoccupied with the so called shirk and bid'ah of brelvi's in India and Pakistan, then you should also do it to the largest Arab country in teh world, which is Egypt - in which Mawlid un-Nabi is a national holiday and processions are held in the streets and all the shops are closed. Or go to Malaysia, one of the best countries in the world, where Mawlid un-Nabi is also celebrated in the streets and is considered to be a national holiday. Go to Uzbekistan, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Ethiopia, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Yaman, and Iraq; you will see how Mawlid is celebrated in all of these countries as well. Your argument of indo-pakistani brelvi mawlids is useless, pointless and deserves no further discussion. Allah knows what is in the hearts of his servants, so don't you dare accuse other Muslims of shirk and bid'ah because they choose to express their love and admiration for rasul-Allah (saws). What foolishness, shame on you people.

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If you knew anything about what happens in Saudi Arabia you wouldn't need a source. Go find out for yourself, I challenge you to contact your local Saudi Arabian embassy and find out the dates, if you believe that it's impossible, try to show me wrong. I

Soon you all will see some quitedisgusting things that these people are doing in the two holy cities very soon. Then let me see your reaction. I am one person, and none of you have been able to answer to any of my articles with any plausible refutation as of yet.

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Ya_Sultan_e_Madina, please tell me where have I mentioned or brought up Barelvis? Also, I'm not a Salafi, therefore, keep the rhetoric to yourself.

Where have I ever vehemently defended the Arabs saying they're all that? Please do let me know. If you reread my statement, you'll notice I said Arabs may not necessarily be following that which is correct. I don't care what the Arabs do. I have nothing to do with them. I follow that which is in accord with Quran and Sunnah to the best of my ability irregardless of what Arabs or anyone else says, does, or practices.

Also, I have just as much right to express my views and opinions as anyone else and it has absolutely nothing to do with me being a moderator.

Furthermore, I asked you to provide me the source, which you haven't yet.

We have just as much right to practice what we deem correct, as much as you have the right to practice what you deem to be correct.

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There it is again, who is "we"?? Do you think everyone in these forums adheres to your personal belief system?

Your and my Prophet (saws) is an arab, so you should respect the arabs as he (saws) said not to show enmity towards them. But if there are those among the arabs who are oppressing other arabs and accusing them of shirk, bid'ah, kufr on the basis of their celebrationg of Mawlid un-Nabi, that is a different story. Since you don't want anything to do with the arabs, then you should just take out rasul (saws) from the picture as well. Just like Iblis, who believes in Allah, but did not believe in his Khalif, Nabi Adam (as)...just like that, people believe they can believe in Allah without believing in His rasul(saws)? Be careful oh people of what you're getting yourselves into.

You cannot accept the fact that Mawlid un-Nabi is celebrated throughout the Muslim world, and the majority of us do not have anything against it. You can do abundance of research on this and see if what I am saying is correct. I don't need to waste my time in teaching you or others who look at my attempt to provide you with more knowledge, with hostility and contempt. From what I have seen here, these forums aren't even worth such articles.

The saddest part about these forums is that many of you have continually shown an utter disrespect for the words of Ulema and understanding of the study of Islam, and it's various sciences. the continual lack of ability to cultivate understanding and intellectual thought in these forums is also blatently apparent. So you are all self taught Alims on Qur'an and Sunnah, and are much smarter than scholars from ibn Kathir who wrote a book called dhikra wa mawlid rasul-lillah, or Qadi Iyad who praised Mawlid un-Nabi in his Sharh' ash-Shifa'a. You are all much more knowledgeable in Qur'an and Sunnah than them, masha'Allah.

The source is all over the internet, go to google.com and type in 'saudi celebrations,' don't hide behind that argument, that's quite childish.

Such a simple question in these forums in regards to Mawlid un-Nabi, such as,

'do you think you can say Imam Jalaluddin Suyuti was incorrect in praising Mawlid un-Nabi?'

Has consistently been met with the persom not answering the question, and instead I have received rhetoric and game play around that question, such as more ahadith with personal ijtihad upon them from people here. And then you decided ot close the forum when I present an abundance of evident proofs before you.

I clearly see your personal beliefs and biases getting in the way of equal opportunity to discuss in these forums - you lock threads right after I present an answer to which you feel uneasy about and cannot believe it, and then there is bickering to which you can't stand it so you ignore it by locking the thread, very noble of you.

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helloooo. u gna provide a source or what?? or are we to believe you blindly?

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Don’t try to act smart, you are probably a young kid and I am probably twice your age and have studied Islam at the feat of learned scholars in different parts of the world for over 15 years and have studied from Mashayakin of al-Azhar the most prestigious and oldest university of sunni Islam in the world boy.

http://www.islam786.org/eidmiladannabi.htm#50527819

http://www.ummah.net/Al_adaab/wahhabi_mawlids.html

And besides I do not need to prove anything to anyone here. I have seen processions in the streets for the aristocracy during their national day and my relatives have witnessed this event many times for years on. What do I care, I know it happens even if you deny it.

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I have said it again and I'll repeat again, I do not always get a chance to go through every single word or every single post. When threads in general get out of control and people do nothing, but argue back and forth, I resort to closing them down.

I don't often get a chance to read your long copy/pastes. Therefore, don't go blaming me for closing down threads because I cannot take your material, or that I lock them down right after you are the last person to post.

Should you still have any concerns, feel free to contact the admin via email or PM.

Aside from that, I'm just as much entitled to believe in what I want just as you are entitled to believe and practice what you want. I wish to leave it at that.

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:rotfl:

:omg:

Maturity and Intelligence is not based on age :chusni:

:wsalam:

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Is that right?

NOW [among the best of the deeds which] We have enjoined upon man is goodness towards his parents. In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth; and her bearing him and his utter dependence on her took thirty months. and so, when he attains to full maturity and reaches forty years, he [that is righteous] prays: “O my Sustainer! Inspire me so that I may forever be grateful for those blessings of Thine with which Thou hast graced me and my parents, and that I may do what is right [in a manner] that will meet with Thy goodly acceptance; and grant me righteousness in my offspring [as well]. Verily, unto Thee have I turned in repentance: for, verily, I am of those who have surrendered themselves unto Thee!”

-Qur’an (Surah al-Ahqaf, Ayat 15)

Forty (40) years of age is the moment at which man is supposed to attain to full intellectual and spiritual maturity. It is to be borne in mind that the masculine noun insan (“man” or “human being”) appearing in the first sentence of this verse applies to both sexes alike.

Clearly in this vers of the Glorious Qur’an al-Mujib, Allah Almighty speaks of the person who reaches the age of 40 as a “mature” person, or a person who has reached the age of maturity. He, Azza wa jaal that since He Jalla Jalalu created us, that before we turn of 40 years of age, we are still under an unreached level of maturity, therefore prone to making a lot of serious mistakes. More particularly, in this ayat Allah subhanahu wa ta 'ala explains his all encompassing Mercy and forgiveness when looking at our sins, before we reach the age of 40 years.

He, Azza wa jaal refers to “ISLAM” in this ayat to say that when a person goes over the age of 40, we are more serious and mature about our Islam than we were before, and now are expected to be more appreciative of what Allah subhanahu wa ta 'ala have given us, such as our beautiful parents who raised us and took care of us as we grow.

Nubuwwat or Prophethood was even declared by our blessed Master Rasul-Allah Muhammad al-Mustafa (sal’ Allahu 'alaiyhi wa sallam) at the age of 40, and he (saws) started to reveal the Qur’an to those who supported him. Keep in mind, that both maturity and intelligence are sub-qualities of wisdom.

If you do not think that maturity and intelligence are based on age, let me ask you something, do you disrespect your older brother or sister or parents and say that you are more mature and more intelligent than them? Or do you stay humble and give them the respect that is due because they are older than you? Would you dare tell an old man who is begging on the street that you are more intelligent and mature than him if you saw him doing something out of the ordinary?

Let me give you a piece of my mind children, You should try taking advice from elders, it would make the youth of this world a whole lot more intelligent and mature than they are, and just maybe, adab would be reinstated into brash youth like yourself.

Oh Allah bless our beloved, Sayyidina Muhammad (saws) and his noble family (alaiyhimis-salaam) and companions (radi’Allahu anhum ajma’in).