Saudi Arabia to save the day for Musharraf

Looks like NS would be defensive rather than an offensive attitude toward Mush in coming days. Mush had support of army and now SA King is also supporting him. So chill out friends of NS. Nothing is going to happen to Mush. He will be soon back to Pakistan without any hinderance and enjoy his life in farm house.:slight_smile:

NS seems to be an idiot by going after Mush knowing that Mush has foolproof protections of army and SA and he can not be touched. NS should change his attitude regarding undermining PPP rule by such stupid behavior. He will harm none other but himself.

DAWN.COM | World | Saudi Arabia to save the day for Musharraf

Sources say that the Saudi King played the role of a guarantor at the time of Musharraf’s resignation that no action would be taken against the dictator when he is no more in power and that if some party or individual backs out from the agreement then Pak-Saudi relations will be badly affected.

PML-N Chief Mian Nawaz Sharif is going to Saudi Arabia next week to hold meetings and will be forced to abide by the agreement, according to sources.

Sources further said that the Saudi King wanted to diffuse tensions because he was informed that Musharraf was thinking of making important disclosures to the media regarding Mian Nawaz Sharif and the current President Asif Ali Zardari in London in which there is talk of Saudi Arabia too.

Former military dictator Pervez Musharraf has also reportedly met Saudi Intelligence Chief King Mukaran who was an important player in the return of Mian Nawaz Sharif. Musharraf is said to have informed the Saudi intelligence chief of the campaign launched by Mian Nawaz Sharif against him and the cases lodged against him.

**Jeddah has become completely involved in the issue and on the other hand the PPP is not interested in putting Musharraf to trial and therefore the whole issue will be closed, said sources.—Online
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Actually we need national consenses to rebuild Pakistn.
to get rid from corruption and Mafias
Should it be possible?
If action against Musharraf
Action against every military ruler and his remaining is necessary.
Like action against few PCO judges does not fulfil the requirement of justice
Why not against all PCO judges?

No surprises there. Lol.

Just like Saudi Arabia saved Nawaz Sharif.

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I agree, nothing is gonna happen to Mush.

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so saudi arabia keeps saving ex-presidents :hmmm:

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now

Pervaiz Musharraf ~ Altaf Bhai

Yes, everyone seems to be following the trend started by Nawaz Sharif. :slight_smile:

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So one enemy is England to provide refuge to our criminals and Saudi Arabia is the other one, shame on both (I think USA is part of this mafia too).

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So who will be next, Zardari or Gillani

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Musharraf was one of the best leaders Pakistan had.

He should have left in 2007 at the height of his popularity.

I think he was guilty of overstaying his welcome.

He is guilty of much more than that. Pak is still suffering from his years of corrupt and murderous dictatorship.

NS may be forced to back down now, but when he comes to power, Mush will have to run away, as he is doing now.

Not likely. Fool proof protections will always be there. Military+SA. NS himself is benificiay of SA deal, he will not antgonize King of SA. Deegran nasihat, khud mian fasihat.:)

If that were the case, NS would not be pushing for the trial at all.

Real Deal,

That is why I said he is an idiot and ignorant.

Musharraf is the worst thing that has ever happened to Pakistan. Like other dictators, 9 years of his have pushed Pakistan wayy back.

So after all there is*** Honour amoung Thieves......:)

if they do not honour each other who else will......:)


Becuase he has forgotten again what he agreed with Saudi Arabia. Lol.

Just like first he denied any deal of exile with Saudi Arabia. Then he remembered but forgot about the years he signed for. He forgot about being part of the Kargil operation. He also forgot about the MQM operation and the list goes on...

Nawaz Sharif is a total idiot and a liar.

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May be a side question - may be the mods can create a poll forthis-

How many of you believe that those who are pushing for Musharaf's Accountability ; they are doing it to gain some personal political gains or are they doing it as a matter of principle.

If they are doing it as principled stand shouldnt they first held themselves accountable

1) Nawaz Sharif- > If its a matter of principle rather then personal vendata or political gain how is Musharraf different from Zia-Ul-Haq (your spritual/political God-Father)
2) Imran Khan -> Will you also hold yourself accountable for supporting Musharraf during Referendum
3) Jamat-e-Islami -> If you believe in principle , how did you view this situation when you legitimize his military coup through LFO

A good analysis by Christian monitor:

Should Pakistan prosecute Musharraf? | csmonitor.com

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Should Pakistan prosecute Musharraf?

   **Targeting only the former president would be unfair. But going after all guilty parties would destabilize the country. Parliament may just have to let the past be the past. **

   **By Ali Wyne

**Washington - Pressure is building in Pakistan to hold former President Pervez Musharraf accountable for constitutional violations. Failing to do so would cast doubt on Pakistan’s prospects for establishing an independent judiciary. However, so would overlooking the comparable abuses of his contemporaries.
In the name of fairness, Pakistan’s Supreme Court needs to try Mr. Musharraf and all of those who committed or abetted crimes. The problem is that this could cause major instability in the country. That leaves the court with only one prudent option: Try none of them.
The case against Musharraf is clear. Among his transgressions: a takeover of power through force; his decision to suspend Pakistan’s constitution; his introduction of the 17th amendment, which allowed him to serve concurrently as president and Army chief; his firing of Iftikhar Chaudhry, the chief justice of Pakistan’s Supreme Court, and his imposition of emergency rule.
However, context matters. Many of those who are pushing for Musharraf to stand trial are themselves guilty of either committing unconstitutional acts or abetting them. For example, Chief Justice Chaudhry facilitated many of the general’s abuses, and was, more generally, a strong ally of his for the better part of Musharraf’s time in office.
Then there is Nawaz Sharif; he appears increasingly poised to become prime minister when general elections are held in 2012. Lest one take his recent statements about the rule of law at face value, he organized a mob of supporters to storm the Supreme Court on November 28, 1997, while it considered corruption charges against him.
He sacked the chief justice, Syed Sajjad Ali Shah, and appointed an “independent” panel that soon thereafter dismissed those charges. Shortly before the coup against him, Mr. Sharif pressured the Jang Group (Pakistan’s largest group of newspapers) to discharge or downgrade several journalists who had chronicled his record of corruption. When the publisher refused, and won a verdict from the Supreme Court that criticized Sharif for employing intimidation tactics, Sharif impounded Jang’s newsprint supplies.
There are many others who could be prosecuted if the Oct. 5, 2007, National Reconciliation Ordinance were overturned. That measure immunizes all government officials who served between January 1, 1986, and Oct. 12, 1999, when Musharraf came to power.
Ultimately, a decision by the parliament to go after only Musharraf would have two effects.
First, it would exculpate individuals who would probably be brought to trial if the criteria that the Supreme Court have applied to him were applied to them.
Second, and more discouraging, it would allow some of the individuals who are implicated in abuses of Pakistan’s Constitution to deflect attention away from their records by presiding over this indictment.
Ideally, the parliament could bring to justice every individual, or at least the “big fish” who committed or abetted crimes during the National Reconciliation Ordinance’s nearly 14-year window. However, such a move would probably destabilize Pakistan by pitting parliament against Pakistan’s president, Asif Zardari, Mr. Chaudhry, Sharif, and others who have committed or abetted constitutional violations.
For all of the energy that the Pakistani government has invested in holding Musharraf to account, it has not displayed commensurate initiative in ensuring the other guilty parties’ accountability. The reason? Such an effort would bring their own records under an unfavorable light.
While the public would probably not shed tears over prosecuting Zardari, who is highly unpopular, it would almost surely sound an uproar if the other two were brought before a court; Chaudhry and Sharif, after all, command strong popular backing. A power struggle between Zardari and Sharif, and a row between the parliament and the judiciary, would distract Pakistan from fighting the Taliban, reviving a struggling economy, and addressing myriad other domestic challenges. The international community has a vital stake in preventing that.
That’s why it should urge the parliament to declare that the past is the past – and proceed with a firm resolve to punish any subsequent government criminality. It is hardly a satisfying course, and it would leave the current government vulnerable to the charge that it places expediency over principle.
However, the parliament would be able to prevent a power struggle, avoid the double standard of prosecuting one guilty party but not the others, and send a powerful message of impartiality.
The test of Pakistan’s democratic potential will be whether it can establish a system of checks and balances to uphold that principle.
Ali Wyne recently completed a junior fellowship at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington.

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MAHARAJA OF PUNJAB
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said yesterday live on T.V. that Saudi Arabia should not interfere in Pakistan's internal affairs

Tum kaho to sach
Main kahoon to jhoot