Saqoot e Dhaka - Pakistan Army

[Anwer_Pasha]

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@ajazali

Mujeeb insisted on his six that could divide Pakistan into six states. What was the solution then?

Than army started the destroying action , Terrorists of JI were their helper , made Al-Badar and Al-Shamas , used Urdu speaking Biharis in their favor and started genocide of Bengalis .
In failure , Military decided to vacate Bengal but India didn’t gave them opportunity and defeated them , 93000 surrendered , Biggest ever surrender in one day .

[ajazali]

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@Anwer_Pasha

Than army started the destroying action , Terrorists of JI were their helper , made Al-Badar and Al-Shamas , used Urdu speaking Biharis in their favor and started genocide of Bengalis .
In failure , Military decided to vacate Bengal but India didn’t gave them opportunity and defeated them , 93000 surrendered , Biggest ever surrender in one day .

What was the exact total number of pak army then? Any source?
Ya jhoot aur haramkhori ko support?

[Anwer_Pasha]

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@ajazali

What was the exact total number of pak army then? Any source?
Ya jhoot aur haramkhori ko support?

93000 surrendered
few escape

JI terrorists , CIA agents Boot Polishi hara… always use false language
Pata naheen Moddodi hara… tha ya saray hi …

[ajazali]

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@Anwer_Pasha

93000 surrendered
few escape

JI terrorists , CIA agents Boot Polishi hara… always use false language
Pata naheen Moddodi hara… tha ya saray hi …

93000 to aisay kehty hn jesay mukhti bahini ko khud lead kr rhy thy, ghaddar

[ajazali]

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@Anwer_Pasha

93000 surrendered
few escape

JI terrorists , CIA agents Boot Polishi hara… always use false language
Pata naheen Moddodi hara… tha ya saray hi …

93000 to aisay kehty hn jesay mukhti bahini ko khud lead kr rhy thy, ghaddar+haramkhor= ppp

[Silaaj]

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@Anwer_Pasha

Election was held under a legal work frame order and Mujeeb was insisting on his six points , that could make five or six Pakistan in one day
Bhutto was not in power
A traitor military dictator was ruling , better ask your beloved army that what they did .

6 points called for provincial autonomy, sort of like what the 18th amendment has done now?

And Bhutto wasnt in power, but he was a remnant from the Ayub era, and ‘loyal’ to Yahya, for lack of a better word. And the words ‘idhar hum udhar tum’ came after the elections and before 71 war. So its wrong to say that Bhutto didnt have a hand in creating or widening the divide between east and west.

[Moonstar201]

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@Gujranwalay

WTF is the point of this thread now, in 2016. Past is past. Forget it and move on.

Any idiot can see that when you have an ememy like india BETWEEN your 2 territories, it will automatically create problem/rift and try to separate it.
It’s very easy when the 2 territories are not connected to each other.

I bet it’s not possible to further separate Pakistan now. indian dreams are now finished/quashed.
Pakistani military and people will ensure it will not happen. inshAllah

Past is really past but lesson must be learnt. I agree that people of pakistan will not let this to happen but not the army of now. They are prone to more errors. They created another army in the form of afghanistan .. PPL say that afganistan was against pak from 1947. But we never needed to have that much army on afgan bordrs as now. That is the failed foreign policy of our army which works as a slave of USA. Once US ordered to create mujahidn , we did it. Than USA ordered to hand them over to USA one by one for some $$ / person , we ably did it. Now the reaction coming and u can see the language used by TTP ( Napak army , ****** punjabi army etc… ) why this all because our army didnt learnt . Gardan ka surya nikal hi nahi raha, . On the other hand the politicians remain taking their term as time to loot.

[Moonstar201]

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@Gujranwalay

WTF is the point of this thread now, in 2016. Past is past. Forget it and move on.

Any idiot can see that when you have an ememy like india BETWEEN your 2 territories, it will automatically create problem/rift and try to separate it.
It’s very easy when the 2 territories are not connected to each other.

I bet it’s not possible to further separate Pakistan now. indian dreams are now finished/quashed.
Pakistani military and people will ensure it will not happen. inshAllah

Past is really past but lesson must be learnt. I agree that people of pakistan will not let this to happen but not the army of now. They are prone to more errors. They created another army in the form of afghanistan .. PPL say that afganistan was against pak from 1947. But we never needed to have that much army on afgan bordrs as now. That is the failed foreign policy of our army which works as a slave of USA. Once US ordered to create mujahidn , we did it. Than USA ordered to hand them over to USA one by one for some $$ / person , we ably did it. Now the reaction coming and u can see the language used by TTP ( Napak army , ****** punjabi army etc… ) why this all because our army didnt learnt . Gardan ka surya nikal hi nahi raha, . On the other hand the politicians remain taking their term as time to loot.

[ajazali]

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@Gujranwalay

WTF is the point of this thread now, in 2016. Past is past. Forget it and move on.

Any idiot can see that when you have an ememy like india BETWEEN your 2 territories, it will automatically create problem/rift and try to separate it.
It’s very easy when the 2 territories are not connected to each other.

I bet it’s not possible to further separate Pakistan now. indian dreams are now finished/quashed.
Pakistani military and people will ensure it will not happen. inshAllah

And see the thread title. Hypocrisy of OP that he wants to highlight Army only.

[ajazali]

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@Moonstar201

Past is really past but lesson must be learnt. I agree that people of pakistan will not let this to happen but not the army of now. They are prone to more errors. They created another army in the form of afghanistan .. PPL say that afganistan was against pak from 1947. But we never needed to have that much army on afgan bordrs as now. That is the failed foreign policy of our army which works as a slave of USA. Once US ordered to create mujahidn , we did it. Than USA ordered to hand them over to USA one by one for some $$ / person , we ably did it. Now the reaction coming and u can see the language used by TTP ( Napak army , ****** punjabi army etc… ) why this all because our army didnt learnt . Gardan ka surya nikal hi nahi raha, . On the other hand the politicians remain taking their term as time to loot.

They are handing pakistani people over to US for dollars and nobody is talking about it not even media which is a always hungry for such news. Kia bongi maari ha. Aur bongi pe bongi ye k es se aap gardan ma surya imply kr rhy ho.
Its blind hate that makes you run short of logic.

[kakaballi]

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@Anwer_Pasha

Election was held under a legal work frame order and Mujeeb was insisting on his six points , that could make five or six Pakistan in one day
Bhutto was not in power
A traitor military dictator was ruling , better ask your beloved army that what they did .

Bhutto was the right hand man of the ‘traitor military dictator’.

Any literate person who has a little bit of intelligence can easily know that. There are tons and tons of neutral ources available which point to Yahya-Bhutto nexus for staying in power.

[Anwer_Pasha]

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@kakaballi

Bhutto was the right hand man of the ‘traitor military dictator’.
Any literate person who has a little bit of intelligence can easily know that. There are tons and tons of neutral ources available which point to Yahya-Bhutto nexus for staying in power.

If you knew about 1970 election , Establishment was supporting terrorist JI & Muslim League of Khan Abdul Qayoum Khan . After win of Mujeeb and Bhutto the situation was out of their control , There was no way to control Mujeeb , Bhutto tried his best failed

[Anwer_Pasha]

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@ajazali

And see the thread title. Hypocrisy of OP that he wants to highlight Army only.

The tread title is not enough , ‘Role of terrorist JI’ should be added .

[Anwer_Pasha]

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@Silaaj

6 points called for provincial autonomy, sort of like what the 18th amendment has done now?
And Bhutto wasnt in power, but he was a remnant from the Ayub era, and ‘loyal’ to Yahya, for lack of a better word. And the words ‘idhar hum udhar tum’ came after the elections and before 71 war. So its wrong to say that Bhutto didnt have a hand in creating or widening the divide between east and west.

Have you ever read those six points ?

[Anwer_Pasha]

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@ajazali

93000 to aisay kehty hn jesay mukhti bahini ko khud lead kr rhy thy, ghaddar

[SindSagar]

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@Mostar95

A note of apology to the people of Bangladesh:
We, the people of West Pakistan, held back on giving your due rights to you from day one after the partition (15th August 1947) although the Bengali frontline played a leading part in the creation of Pakistan. Muslim League also held its first meeting in Dhaka. Soon after the creation of Pakistan, the father of the nation as well as Liaqaut Ali Khan labelled Bengali as a ‘local’ and ‘crass’ language. They did so even though they knew that you constituted a larger part of Pakistan s population, and while it was common knowledge that Bengali was considered the richest and most cultivated language of the sub continent. Among the numerous language which were spoken in Hindustan, only a Bengali literary genius was awarded the Nobel Prize. In order to diminish your majority among the population database, we invented the ‘Parity’ and ‘One Unit’ formula, so that neither could you come in power nor could you receive a share in it. In this country, it was not the citizens who were deemed an important element for achieving unity and progress. Instead, Islam, Urdu and the agenda for hatred towards India were considered the main pillars of the nation. We always considered you as a group belonging to the lower caste, people who were dark skinned, short and generally inferior human beings. We always questioned your patriotism because the way we had treated the Hindus and Sikhs in Punjab and Sindh, who we either killed or forced to go back to India, perhaps you did not treat the Hindu Bengalis in the same barbaric manner. As a result, your declaration of love for your own country was always looked at with skepticism by us. A continuous propaganda was carried out by us in the ‘Real’ Pakistan, that your part of the country is merely a financial liability on the rest. That you are no more that a nation riddled with floods.That you produce nothing other than jute and how valuable can that be, after all we only used it to make gunny bags, which was all the mental capacity we had!
As a result of your long and challenging struggle for political rights, free and fair general elections were held on basis of one-man-one-vote, in the year 1971. But the ‘Real’ Pakistan’s Army and political leadership refused to accept the results of these elections, which depicted a majority win by you. Then the ‘Real’ Pakistan tried to fix you through bullet diplomacy. Our Generals said we dont want Bengalis, we only want Bengal. Kill the pigs.murder the *******s. And make sure that you kill their women after ‘sampling’ them first. The Biharis and Jamat e Islami of your land turned out to be traitors for your nation and became pimps for our establishment. They helped our Army in carrying out mass murder of your people.
After achieving independence, you spent the early years undergoing some hardships. But amazingly, you were able to progress much more as compared to Pakistan over the next many years. You did not have any cotton, yet today all major clothing store chains carry garments made by you. We on the other hand had vast amounts of cotton, but clothes carrying our labels cannot be found in many stores. We make the clothes and wear them ourselves.
After parting ways with you, we became the pimps of USA and in return we received millions of dollars. We succeeded in making our own country as well the whole of South Asia into a hub of terrorism for the world. And now China has managed to make us into effective toll collectors. Hopefully we will continue to receive many more millions of dollars over the next few years through this arrangement. Our military establishment still manages to stand tall with their heads held high and their shoulders squared. They carry even more glittering medals on their chests today. While you are in the process of hanging traitors of your land, we are unable to forget the sacrifices offered by our pimps. It was our great desire to murder all the Bengali intellectuals, poets, writers and teachers, on the night we surrendered, so that there remain no thinkers and achievers amongst you for generations to come. Little did we know, those who dig a hole for others have a penchant to fall in that same hole.
Today, wisdom is dead in our nation. All we have left is a large crowd of the beards, who are our declared intellectual leaders.
(Courtesy and thanks for English Translation by Nazzia Shafiq Momina

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Mostar Bhai let us look at the real culprits who carried out murder and rape of the Bihari Minority of East Pakistan, it was not the Pakistan Army it was Brigadier Rahtuk’s force trained by India, this Brig Ratuk wrote a book about his activities in East Pakistan:

The Tibetans who fought the 1971 war - Rediff.com News

and he writes :

**Tibetan Brigadier Ratuk
Brigadier Ratuk who is now 84 years old living in ‘Majno Cottila’ situated in “Tibet Colony” New Delhi, states that his secret gorilla force was not part of regular Indian army however they were under command of Indian army and Indian General Pabun was their Commander. The initial name of Ratuk’s army was ‘Voluntary Freedom Fighter Force’ but after 1962 Sino-Indian war it was renamed as ‘Tibetan Secret Regiment’. In order to avoid objection from Chinese side for armed interference into China this terrorist force of India was renamed as ‘Special Frontier Force’. Its Head Quarter was in ‘Dehradhun’ in Uttar Paradesh.
Brigadier Ratuk says that when he was ordered to send his force to Eastern Pakistan to fight against Pakistan he was shocked because his only target was freedom of Tibet from China and secret war/terrorism against China , so he denied to wage secret war/terrorism in Eastern Pakistan . When Dalai Lama’s elder brother Gyalo Thondap ordered them to help India in this war he got ready because Gyalo deceived him that if he (Ratuk) helps India in war against Pakistan than Indian army would help them to defeat Chinese army in Tibet . After this approximately 2000 Bengali were brought into the camp and he was told that these are men of Mukti Bahni and will support his force in Gorilla war against Pak-Army in Eastern Pakistan . When these Tibetan militants entered into the Bengal they learned that Bengali traitors were not trained enough to fight against Pak army however they proved to be worthy guides because Tibetan terrorists were not aware of ground routes and installations of Pakistan army.
Brigadier Ratuk further claims that they (his Tibetan terrorists) waged war against Pakistan disguised as Mukti Bahni and the world was being deceived that Mukti Bahni is a force of freedom fighters fighting for freedom against Pakistan . Ratuk says that this is the most clear lie of history; the actual war was fought by his men, Indian army was brought in when Indians were assured that Pakistan army has been badly hurt and Pakistan army was isolated on the international level through successful/influential propaganda even that Pakistanis themselves were feeling ashamed for the stories of war crimes of Pak Army. The biggest proof of our (Brigadier Ratuk & his force) success against Pak Army is that when we (Tibetans) reinforced our control over Chitagong, Special Advisor for Indira Gandhi and most trusted officer of Indian Secret Agency ‘Mr. R.N. Kao’ specially visited and acknowledged that without your (Tibetan terrorists) support Indian army would never had been able to achieve such a big success in Eastern Pakistan.
The confession of Brigadier Ratuk should be sufficient to open our eyes that Eastern Pakistan was separated from us through a big conspiracy. However if our Pro-Indian Intellectuals and AMAN KI ASHA Brand Journalist beat their old triumphant even after discovery/disclosure of reality of Mukti Bahni that Pakistan army gang raped Bengali women, and was involved in heinous crime of genocide than I would like to question them that in Tribal Areas from last ten years Pakistan army is fighting against terrorists and successful operations are being conducted than why in spite of slaughtering of kidnapped soldiers (by terrorists) and the number of casualties of armed forces in thousands why not a single incident of rape or intentional killing of innocents have been reported/proved? And in Baluchistan these operations are going even before our maturity than why no such incident has been brought forward except the case of Dr. Shazia employed in a hospital that was allegedly raped by a Captain but when army investigations were started all those (including the target of rape) who wrote this propaganda story to defame Pakistan army fled to London so that actual facts could not be revealed through investigations. However, in spite of the disclosure of reality of Mukti Bahni, Hamid Mir wants that Pakistan should apologize from Bangladesh (for the crimes of Indian terrorists)? If these pro-Indian elements are stuck to their demands that Pakistan should apologize from Bangladesh with regard to 1971 and Mujeeb is a hero for them than would they like to inform nation that why Mujeeb and his family was murdered by his own Bangladeshi army, not by one or two soldiers but by the whole Regiment; why did army murder their HERO along with his Family?
**

[Anwer_Pasha]

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**For record
**​Popular six points agenda of Sheikh Mujib-ur-Rehman – ARYNEWS

ByHira
Posted on December 16, 2014
of Awami league who later become the first president of Bangladesh proposed six points autonomy plan that became the reason of fall of Dhaka. Mujib had a huge popularity across East Pakistan and he had strong links with Indian government also. These six points autonomy was not accepted by any political party of West Pakistn but Mujib’s rigid stance on his points made things worst. Following are the six points of Awami Leagu1. The government should be federal and parliamentary in nature as it was discussed in Lahore Resolution, its members to be elected with legislative representation on the basis of population.
2. The federal government have principal responsibility for foreign affairs and defense only and the federating units should be given power to deal all the other subjects of interests.
3. Each wing should have its own currency and separate fiscal accounts and if the separate currency plan is not possible then there should be one currency for the whole country, but the constitution should ensure effective provisions to stop the flight of capital from East to West Pakistan.
4. Taxation would occur at the provincial level, with a federal government funded by constitutionally guaranteed grants. The revenue collection shall be vested in the federating units and the federal center will have no such power.
5. Each federal unit could control its own earning of foreign exchange. The two units should have separate accounts and the constitution should empower the units to establish trade links with foreign countries.
6. Each unit could raise its own militia or paramilitary forces

[Sachaydino]

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@Anwer_Pasha

For record
​Popular six points agenda of Sheikh Mujib-ur-Rehman – ARYNEWS

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ByHira
Posted on December 16, 2014
of Awami league who later become the first president of Bangladesh proposed six points autonomy plan that became the reason of fall of Dhaka. Mujib had a huge popularity across East Pakistan and he had strong links with Indian government also. These six points autonomy was not accepted by any political party of West Pakistn but Mujib’s rigid stance on his points made things worst. Following are the six points of Awami Leagu1. The government should be federal and parliamentary in nature as it was discussed in Lahore Resolution, its members to be elected with legislative representation on the basis of population.
2. The federal government have principal responsibility for foreign affairs and defense only and the federating units should be given power to deal all the other subjects of interests.
3. Each wing should have its own currency and separate fiscal accounts and if the separate currency plan is not possible then there should be one currency for the whole country, but the constitution should ensure effective provisions to stop the flight of capital from East to West Pakistan.
4. Taxation would occur at the provincial level, with a federal government funded by constitutionally guaranteed grants. The revenue collection shall be vested in the federating units and the federal center will have no such power.
5. Each federal unit could control its own earning of foreign exchange. The two units should have separate accounts and the constitution should empower the units to establish trade links with foreign countries.
6. Each unit could raise its own militia or paramilitary forces

ZAB should have agreed to these points. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Had ZAB agreed to these points, he would have still be alive leading his PPP. It is a shame that these six points then media termed as anti-Pakistan and all halla gulla by Jamat-e- Ha.. mi. Really it was a very sad affairs that we lost major Pakistan by not accepting the mandate and respected the wishes of Bengali brothers. The brutal action by the army lead by drunkard general created a huge crack in Muslim brotherhood, totally failing ‘Two Nation Theory’. Bengali will always hate us for their genocide, raping Muslim women and other war crimes committed by the Pakistan army, unfortunately then condoned by West Pakistani civilians.

[Sachaydino]

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@ajazali

Mujeeb insisted on his six that could divide Pakistan into six states. What was the solution then?

Accepting his six points and let Bengali breath oxygen and live peacefully.

[Anwer_Pasha]

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@Sachaydino

ZAB should have agreed to these points. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Had ZAB agreed to these points, he would have still be alive leading his PPP. It is a shame that these six points then media termed as anti-Pakistan and all halla gulla by Jamat-e- Ha.. mi. Really it was a very sad affairs that we lost major Pakistan by not accepting the mandate and respected the wishes of Bengali brothers. The brutal action by the army lead by drunkard general created a huge crack in Muslim brotherhood, totally failing ‘Two Nation Theory’. Bengali will always hate us for their genocide, raping Muslim women and other war crimes committed by the Pakistan army, unfortunately then condoned by West Pakistani civilians.

Bhutto agreed on more than five points, according to the news , five and a half but Mujeeb insisted for all six , no compromise .