I was no fan of Salman Taseers politics, still he died for what he believed in..he asked for an open debate on the blasphemy law, he wanted Aasia Bibis death penalty to be commuted not dismissed (no blasphemy case has ever led to death penalty). At the end he was abandoned by his party and murdered by those supposed to protect him..
it is tragic that these news channels and papers avoid calling him Shaheed, avoid the use of the word terrorist for his attackers. For a nation which dispenses the title off Shaheed like candy we are now hesitant..i hope those who believe in what he died for, at least online, use the word Shaheed.
Indeed, in line with the likes of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, Rajpal and others who are ironically also referred to as shaheeds by their co-religionist...
Look lets not confuse religion with personal agenda's and point of views. A shaheed by the only definition is one who dies for Islam. This man by no means died for the faith and attributing such qualities is dishonest to say the least.
The most amazing thing out of all this shaheed fiasco is that secuarlists are wanting to define the man in religious terms. Amazingly hypocritical.
Look lets not confuse religion with personal agenda's and point of views. A shaheed by the only definition is one who dies for Islam. This man by no means died for the faith and attributing such qualities is dishonest to say the least.
The most amazing thing out of all this shaheed fiasco is that secuarlists are wanting to define the man in religious terms. Amazingly hypocritical.
A shaheed by the only definition is one who dies for Islam. This man by no means died for the faith and attributing such qualities is dishonest to say the least.
The most amazing thing out of all this shaheed fiasco is that secuarlists are wanting to define the man in religious terms. Amazingly hypocritical.
As always you're wrong. Martyr/shaheed (which is what it means in Arabic) has nothing to do with religion, but dying for a cause. It could be religious cause or it could be secular cause. However, I do agree with you that not every 3rd rate dead schmuck is martyr.
^ shaheed as we generally take it is a religious term, it has everything to do with religion, do not confuse people with what it literally means in arabic.
and by the way, why every politician who gets murdered has to be called shaheed? this is nonsense. he's dead, ok give the guy all the respect you have for him but why start calling every one shaheed.
now wait for shaheed salman taseer international airport. disgusting.
Incorrect Shami2k. Shaheed comes from the arabic term Shahadat, which means to Bear Witness. It specifically applies in Arabic to bear witness to an act of faith.
He is not Shaheed, most assasinated politicians are not Shaheed…
I think its wrong labelling people Shaheed when they hardly did anything heroic for Islam, I think he was murdered wrongly but we cannot be certian he was killed for what he believed the fellow was far from a saint and who knows why the Qadri fellow shot him maybe it was apersonall grudge and he used the blasphemy trouble as an excuse?
Oh god. By that standard Zia-ul-Haq and JFK are also shaheed :rolleyes: Good to see you corrected yourself from your first post, where you state Shaheed has nothing to do with religion. Now you quote religion itself to defend an untenable position.
The hadis have been posted. Shaheed is a term for someone who dies bearing witness to an act of faith. Hell I will make life easy.
**Zakk **I agree with you. Salman Taseer gave his life protecting good name of Prophet (SAW) as by his action he gave witness that he does not believe anyone should get harmed, victimised, persecuted, abused, or killed in the name of Prophet (SAW), especially helpless poor who get victimise in Pakistan using presently existing blasphemy law. Prophet (SAW) was Rahmat-ul-lil Alameen and came to this world not to harm, victimise, persecute, abuse or kill mankind but to bless mankind and that is true even after his ‘wafaat’.
I think that those who want to use name of Prophet (SAW) to harm, victimise, persecute, abuse or kill helpless in Pakistan would only support such law and persecution using such law, as they do not care maligning name of Prophet (SAW), portraying Prophet (SAW) name as a name to fear.
PTV is the only channel calling him Shaheed, the rest say he was killed.
Obviously he died fighting for the name of Islam, he was killed advocating changing a law which had brought Islam & Muslims into disrepute.
Nobody is really shaheed when you or I say someone is shaheed. It is reflective more on your point of view rather than a divine designation. Taleban are not shaheed because the 'Islamic' government they want to bring to power is NOT an Islamic government in my eyes. Salman Taseer is a shaheed because he died for a right cause.
PTV is the only channel calling him Shaheed, the rest say he was killed.
Obviously he died fighting for the name of Islam, he was killed advocating changing a law which had brought Islam & Muslims into disrepute.
that is because PTV is run by the govt, PPP is in the govt right now and taseer belonged to ppp
answering to the rest of your post is worthless...
Nobody is really shaheed when you or I say someone is shaheed. It is reflective more on your point of view rather than a divine designation. Taleban are not shaheed because the 'Islamic' government they want to bring to power is NOT an Islamic government in my eyes. Salman Taseer is a shaheed because he died for a right cause.
not advocating anyone here, but please add the bold part at the end of the last sentence of your post...
