ecoshan, would you please show one quran ayat which say that capital punishment should be implement. I will show you atleast two which say other wise. Do not play on name of Islam what you know of not. do not be Jamiati.
ehtasab bhaijan. No need to worry. Great Zardari, the President of Pakistan can always replace Salman Taseer as the Governor of Punjab if he is not happy with him. :D
aap ki yeh masoomiat Musharraf ko le doobi :D
ehtasab bhaijan. Aap kia bol rahay hain? Are you saying that Great Zaradri, President of Pakistan, is powerless to remove Great Salman Taseer, the governor of Punjab? ![]()
Re: Salman Taseer and family
Aalsi, this is no different from how great Musharraf was powerless to remove embarrassments like Greatest Law Minister of all time Wasi Zafar, from the law ministry. Friends (who share the same intellectual capacity) and drinking partners don't remove each other from their posts.
I just think that as it is mentioned in Quran, "Wa Tu-izzo man tashaao wa tu-zillo man tashaao" , Salman Taaseer's present scenario is a nobel example of that:
Now look at this scenario:
He, Salman Taaseer, is,
1) Governar of Punjab
2) A very big name in Politics
3) A multimillionaire
4) Owner of many companies
5) A big name and very noble person in Pakistani society.
etc. etc.
But look at what is happening now: His, His wife's , daughters', son's pictures (which should be very private) are present all over the world. Bache bache ki email pe uski pics mojood hen. People are not only furious, but also recalling them with "nice" words. And his prestige has all gone in dust.
If he still doesnt get on the right path then, "Ya bigherati tera hi aasra"
But weren’t you saying ‘the more things change the more they remain same’ :aq:
Yazdi I thought about this and present to you some reasons because of which I think will help us decide whether this thread should stay or not, please feel free to disagree or add more
I gave my view point that we should not discuss the personal orientation of a certain individual....the same way for example we should not discuss Sita White or Imran's faternity issues...again this is my personal opinion and if you decide to continue with the thread go ahead...people like me who disagree can always abstain from posting...
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i) The topic is a present ongoing debate, not just in the Pakistani media (print, internet, tv) but is also being discussed in the Punjab Assembly.
(ii) I agree the pictures of his sons and daughters (barring the one with his son posing with alochol in the governsor house) should NOT be used to defame him.
iii) The PPP has categorically shunned these allegations and said that these pictures were 'doctored' digitally. Now with such a rebuttal I think the PPP is atelast implyign that drinking in the premises of the Governor House is wrong. So we can see for ourselves and deduce whether the pictures are real or not.
iv) Such a lavish lifestyle, if experienced on state expenses is a BIG concern with the country almost hitting bankruptcy
I can only think of ii) as a reason to lock the thread, but then again, those pictures with his sons and daughters were not being flaunted in the Punjab Assembly.
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Again Spock...it's a pity that ruling party in Punjab never come up with anything on his job performance as a Governor....they collect some fake and some real photographs of his family to malign him...he may be doing something grossly wrong as a Governor, why don't the expose his performance...
Exactly my sentiments.
I am sure all the real patriotic Pakistanis are actually interested to know how he has been carrying out his responsibilities as a governer than looking at what his daughters and sons are wearing at school's sports class or on vacation or how they pose for the camera when they're with friends. Or if his daughter is dancing at a family wedding party (Like more than half of Pakistani girls do. I am sure that even these very propagandists have also attended several without a doubt), to name it, "Night out with friends".... And, "Dancing in front of men, haawww haayyeee....." - Oh the hypocrisy.
This is a a pretty bogus tactic of proving incompetency of anybody for their job. What all the Pakistanis need to be concerned (not only with this governer but everyone who is part of the government) with is what these guys holding the government positions have done for Pakistan and the people of Pakistan.
Is there ANYONE who can actually find that out and if they are meeting their job responsibilities. Or these parties / vacation are carried out with Pakistani people's hard earned money paid to government in the form of tax? And just about any kind of corruption which has harmed Pakistan in the past or is hurting Pakistan's existance now, the people of Pakistan have every right to know that and hold him or any other government servant liable for how they perfomed/perform their duties.
With that view in mind, is there any 'Pakistani' who can hold MQM agents and their leader liable to the people of Pakistan for issuing this statement to the international media that "Pakistan was a mistake in the history of mankind"? Party with these beliefs are being made part of Pakistani government? Where are all these propagandists who cant do sh!t about exposing the real intents and criminal activities of these indian financed mafia in Pakistan, including Fazla and his supporters? And every single thug in Pakistani government? Why can they not make such websites to expose their crimes and corruption for the awareness of Pakistani public? Because they want Pakistanis to keep snoozing over the matters which actually matter.
Are they only good for these clown tactics of 'haawww haaayyee... Islam this, Islam that. His son is not wearing a topi and beard and daughter is not wearing burka.... haww haaayyee... a 'proof' that their father is baaaadddd for PAKISTAN'................
Oh please get real, for PAKISTAN'S SAKE now. Expose if you can, the practices of these people which harmed/harming the interest of Pakistan around the world. Whether it is this guy or any other leader. Do you have guts to do that? Or are your pervy selves only good for hiding behind the internet and going, "haaawwww haaaayeee"???
Again Spock...it's a pity that ruling party in Punjab never come up with anything on his job performance as a Governor....they collect some fake and some real photographs of his family to malign him...he may be doing something grossly wrong as a Governor, why don't the expose his performance...
You mean you will want the whole world to a damn if your daughters / son's very personal pictures are displayed on the internet for public pleasure only to undermine whatever career you have and judge you through those pictures?
i donot condone this bringing his family pics this way as wrote in my previous its all about him.
i wasnt concerned about what his daughter or son were doing but how he was on the table with others.
surely i can condemn him if his son drinks at home.
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You mean how your son or daughter sit, sleep, stand, sh!t, jump, dress up, talk in their personal life with friends and in college life will represent how YOU will deal with your responsibility in your profession?
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if they do something wrong being at home.
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What dignity did you see in your international bhikaari - ghaddari to make him a president of Pakistan? What dignity does MQM have to be made a part of the government? Why would you not asnwer, if this guy is the only corrupt politician in Pakistan's politics or do you think there are more? Why not these 3rd rated personal attacks on the sons/daughters of those corrupt politicians??? Whose agenda is being served by choosing this specific politician?
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you got me wrong i guess i am not a MQM supporter they are worst of worsts lot a Mafia, i dont find them worth to discuss .
but it doesnt mean i comment on others while comparing themMQM.
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I would only be concerned if the national treasuary is being abused for throwing these parties.
My dear, Pakistan really has much bigger problems than attempting to defame the entire family of a corrupt politician to serve some political agenda.
We really need to get to the depth of whose agenda is being served here. The only reason I will not take those behind this propaganda is because only low lives like MQM/indian agents can attempt to play a stunt as cheap as this one against ANY Pakistani.
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again blaming others for our own ills, who brought up pictures of Benazir and Nusrat bhutto in zias era and later as well was it india or MQM.
it was someone amongst us.
yes we have bigger problem and it is within us.