Well, the thread has been completely derailed now, and questions such as whether it is obligatory for abolution to be performed before touching the Quran are now being discussed, so this would probably be a concluding post from my end.
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Whether music is haram or halal........ you are not supposed to sing Quran with music are you??? It's simple. There are rules ...... you don't ask questions !! You cannot argue with the Holy Prophet and Allah allmighty using your little noodles.... goodness me!!
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So where has this rule been written. The only place I see it is the inscriptions within the minds of Mollahs.
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And niqabi.... please don't get to the point of imagining that everything is allright as long as your intention is right. There is a verse in Quran itself... and the translation is " Nobody touches it (the Quran) apart from "mutahharoon" means paak. According to Hadith .. wazu makes you paak .. you must do it before holding Quranwith your bare hands. .... I don't argue.
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Open your minds and dont think like a Mollah, as according to your perception of this verse, anyone who can do wuzu can become paak. The verse in reality means that a person with a paak 'heart' can touch the Quran, not necessarily one who just washes himself with water. Abolution is just a process to physically clean yourself, and cleaning yourself mentally (something our mollahs can never do) is a bigger step. I suggest you goto Saudi Arabia, or any other Islamic country, even people in the haram shareef are reading Quran, they do more reading, and less showing of piety like our great Pakistani Mollahs. They dont put Quran in places as high as the cielings (beyond peoples reaches) or issue fatwas if you do not spend an hour washing your hands before touching it. But no, our Mollahs have to be the custodians of Islam and dictate their own rules, with narrow mindedness.
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One of these days some liberal minded muslim is gonna get up and say.... well more people will be attracted to say namaz if that was without wazu..... will that be justified and become right ... no.
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Where did this pop up from now? Again, there are conditions where you can perform salaat without having underdone a proper abolution, so my friend, Islam is not as rigid and constraint filled you, or the mollahs make it appear like. Yaad rakho, amaal ka daromadaar Niyyat par hai. And even if a person does not perform wuzu 100% correctly before offering his prayers, you or the mollahs have no right to criticize him, Allah will be the judge of that, not you.
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The Holy prophet didn't use music to preach islam
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The Holy Prophet (PBUH) didnt use alot of other things to preach ISlam, and he didnt declare them haraam. That was a very very vague statement.
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I am sure he had good reasons.... my noodle says Islam is to be grasped with good reason ... not as in intoxication ... and that is what music does. It simply takes you away from teh reality of certain things.
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If youre intoxicated by music, thats another issue. You said music takes you away from the reality of certain things, what does an average mullah reciting the Quran in the typical rattah (cramming) fashion 10 times in 10 seconds (in arabic which he doesnt understand) gain from doing so? AND I am sure the guitarist was not learning/grasping Islam when he sung that small verse like you said. Sometimes people recite verses just to give themeselves peace, they are not necessarily 'grasping' Islam when they are doing so.
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Oh you liberals.... get a grip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Like it or not, education is becoming prevalent, and due to the present circumstances, inshallah Pakistan will be void of Mollahism for good, and narrow mindedness will dissapear. We will be able to solve more grave problems such as wahabism, murder, sectarian violence, fatwas than worrying about a guitarist singing a small verse.
+ it would have helped if his surname was mentioned there are so many salman’s out there u know 