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Firstly, did you know that president himself supported the documentary? Salman even joked that in his last conversation, he asked the General to buy an electric guitar. Musharrafs campaign to void the country of extremism has a lot to do with these Mollahs.
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I know .... i quote myself
I am with gen pervaiz all the way... i know what he is trying to do... but look at teh way he is doing it
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Salman has faced even bigger hurdles in the past, much bigger hurdles in the form of politicians such as Nawaz Sharif, Mushahid Hussain who banned them. They bounced back by emerging a stronger and much popular band even when they were banned. You can draw out a parallel with Musharraf too.
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as i said earlier
what i dont agree on is that there are limits to everything...Junoon was singing songs of peace ... I was with them all the way..., they wanted to bring peace between India and Pakistan .. Junoon Zindabaad... they were singing patriotic songs... Hy jazba-e- junoon to himmat na haaar...,
Bulley shah ...na main mooman wich maseetaN na main moosa na firooon... Great work.. they were spreading.. words of wisdom and peace....
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Salman crossed the limit with the documentry...
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You didnt answer my question as to how Salmans recitation would bring about an ultimate disrespect of the great book of Quran.
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all i am saying is that he wants to connect with god.. and this is not the way.. he is role model for people todayhe did it tomorrow everyone else will be doing it.....
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*look at christianity.. they involved music into their churches... are we trying to copy them...???
"mann shabahahum fa hua minhum" The Holy Quran
he who tries to resemble them(the non believers) is one of them
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I have seen people who get boiled and say writing Quran as 'Koran' is disrespect, I fail to understand that.
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thats the first time I have heard that... and i agree with u on this
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How did he mock the people he was sitting with. He never said they were bad people or they were wrong. All he did was ask them a few questions, and to be honest, those gentlemen couldnt provide decent answers, other than, 'all I know is music is haraam'. When did he discourage them from attending a madrassah?
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it was a documentry.. and they are all edited "all have heard is that music is haraam" the kid said that... i am not saying that they edited parts in which someone might have had answered..but why was he interviewing a kid...?? and why are they focusing on that...
I am sure there is an ayat reguarding music and entertainment in quran..i cant recall it right now.. but they must have presented that..or a hadith atleast .. why wasnt that part shown...i dont believe that he asked them why is music haraam and they answer " oh we just know its haraam thats it ..."
and the discouraging part.... what do u think .. after kids in pakistan see this ..kids who have been listening to juoon and music perticularly.. what will they think about molvis and madrasas..?? yaar theese places are sacred Allahs words are thought there .. children are thought about their religion.. and he goes and mocks it like that.... he could have gathered some molvis at his place and had a debate or something...i am sure that didnt cross his mind.. or pbs wanted to show the madrasas and stuff on western media ...
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Tell me where he blamed Islam in particular like you said? Throughout the documentary it was said that the mainstream of the Pakistani society does not adhere to the views of these Mollahs. If you see the docuementary, Salman just proved these mollahs get back to their "preprogrammed commentry", and no where did he go against Islam like you said, if you still think he did, please do provide me with some proof.
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yaar look at it this way... ur an american sitting on ur couch watching the doc... when u see all this.. what comes to ur mind... ISLAM...u dont knwo what theese mullahs are... u dont know what madrasas are.. u dont know care what main stream pakistanis think....all you know is its ISLAM... its MUSLIMS... oh they are training terrorists in these madrasas they are terrorist bases... they force children to study the quran which makes them terorists...
personally its my view that whatever Osama did was terrible... maybe he wanted to take revenge from america for their diplomacy and all but he destroyed the image of ISLAM...ppl think we are terrorists...
now this stuff about afghanistan iraq , mujahedeen.. islam..madrasas..and all is hot ppl in the west would watch it with a lot of intrest.. and right then all u need is this karnama by salman sahab...
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why did they have a whole section about sufism and its teachings? Isnt sufism a sect within Islam too? Why didnt Salman blame that, or why wasnt the image of Islam hurt by showing that?
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Captain shab if u think dancing at tombs of dead buzurgs(rh) will get anyone a connection with god i pitty you...
Allah says Ask me I am ur sole provider.. i am ur creator.. ask me at anytime anywhere and i will listen to you...
you dont need to goto tombs and request on someone elses behalf from allah... allah does not like that...that is not islam yaar.. i have seen people doing sajda at tombs... I say respect those buzurgs(rh) but bowing to them and asking them thats shirk yaar... and how can u think dancing has anything to do with.. asking god for help...trust me on this .. i have done this... in the middle of teh night sit on ur jayenamaz.. and pray.. ask allah for what u want.. ask from the core of ur heart... and i am sure if allah thinks its good for you he will answer ur prayer...
you are talking about the melas that the were showing... people dancing to music and marching toward teh tombs .. what kind of a worship is that yaar.. and what do u think happens at theese melas... ganjha .. bhag.. afeem its sold and comsumed there openly.. and then ppl dance and pray to god or teh tombs.... is that the way to please allah ....
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I live in the west, and all this documentary did in the west was expose what these mollahs think. Now dont tell me the mollahs arent like that, infact some of the mollahs shown in the documentary were rather liberal, than our conventional mollahs.
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yaar i live in the west too...i know it exposed the mullahs but more than that it further more spoiled the image of islam...
open ur eyes brothers...look at this from ISLAMS point of view too..allah tum sab ko oor salman ko bhi hidayat dy...
wa ma alina illal balaagh...
I am out of this...
AH