The sentiments of general public are very over whelming and pretty confusing about this murder. It seems that for most of the part, majority of Pakistan approves of this act. I was thinking if it it because they really thought that Mr Taseer deserved such fate or it was because Mr Taseer was a key PPP person and the reaction would be the same if it was Mailk Rehman or Sherry Rehman or even Zardari himself for that matter who got killed.
I feel that the reaction has little to do with the blasphemy law and more to do with the anti PPP sentiments that has been developed in last year or so. I mean after all Imran Khan was also against the law and quite vocal about it but no one wants any harm against him because general public likes him.
That is quite delusional. Even if Nawaz Sharif had done the same thing, despite him being in bed with mullahs, people would similarly have celebrated his death.
Many virtually unknown innocent people were killed in lockups, police stations etc even before they were presented in court (and thats why I am calling them innocent) and this is not even ishq-e-mohammad, this is JAHALAT and sorry to say this is driven by JALI mullahs who want to keep their business going.
Salman Taseer did not even say a word about Muhammad (PBUH). He was merely talking about man made law if he can be killed for that citing tauheen-e-risalat, same fatwa will be ok for me after this post.
That is quite delusional. Even if Nawaz Sharif had done the same thing, despite him being in bed with mullahs, people would similarly have celebrated his death.
but imran said it too, did not he?
I dont agree with your take on this TLK.
Many virtually unknown innocent people were killed in lockups, police stations etc even before they were presented in court (and thats why I am calling them innocent) and this is not even ishq-e-mohammad, this is JAHALAT and sorry to say this is driven by JALI mullahs who want to keep their business going.
did you answer some other post of mine here. I am trying to see the connection between my OP and your reply but cant.
I was taken by reaction of my cousins and relatives in Pakistan. I had this discussion on FB and I condemned the cold blooded killer and it seemed like a coup like they all turned against me. Pity what is the youth of Pakistan going through and i am not talking about uneducated youth. Mashallah most of them have degree holder professionals and quite liberal in their life too. I guess its easy to ride on emotions around you.
nobody would have been for ST's murder had it not been for the blasphemy issue.
I am not saying that. I am saying that for the same blasphemy issue, if it was another politician who got killed, would the reaction be the same. Point is that the whole episode was not about Taseer. If Qadri was a guard of Rehman Malik then it might be Rehman Malik's murder we might be talking about at this time.
I am not saying that. I am saying that for the same blasphemy issue, if it was another politician who got killed, would the reaction be the same. Point is that the whole episode was not about Taseer. If Qadri was a guard of Rehman Malik then it might be Rehman Malik's murder we might be talking about at this time.
For the same blasphemy issue, if it was another politician and he had been killed, the reaction would have been similar.
I was taken by reaction of my cousins and relatives in Pakistan. I had this discussion on FB and I condemned the cold blooded killer and it seemed like a coup like they all turned against me. Pity what is the youth of Pakistan going through
see this is unfair of us 'educated open minded over seas Pakistanis' that we think that all the Pakistanis living in Pakistan are either jahil or insensitive. Had we suffer the same oppression, inflation and corruption that they are suffering, whom to say that we would not be celebrating this murder also.
Its easy to judge people from back home when we have food in our fridges and luxury cars parked in our garages.
For the same blasphemy issue, if it was another politician and he had been killed, the reaction would have been similar.
exactly my point. So the character assassination of Mr Taseer by media is not a justified act. There was nothing amazingly wrong about Taseer (in comparison) so saying things like 'oh his life style was too liberal' is a blow below the belt I think.
I was taken by reaction of my cousins and relatives in Pakistan. I had this discussion on FB and I condemned the cold blooded killer and it seemed like a coup like they all turned against me. Pity what is the youth of Pakistan going through and i am not talking about uneducated youth. Mashallah most of them have degree holder professionals and quite liberal in their life too. I guess its easy to ride on emotions around you.
I know...I was quite surprised with all the pro-Qadri statuses and it really boggles the mind, are we a society filled with potential murdering maniacs?
see this is unfair of us 'educated open minded over seas Pakistanis' that we think that all the Pakistanis living in Pakistan are either jahil or insensitive. Had we suffer the same oppression, inflation and corruption that they are suffering, whom to say that we would not be celebrating this murder also.
Its easy to judge people from back home when we have food in our fridges and luxury cars parked in our garages.
People that I'm talking about have all these luxuries, and besides poor used to have better morals. Something is really wrong.
The sentiments of general public are very over whelming and pretty confusing about this murder. It seems that for most of the part, majority of Pakistan approves of this act. I was thinking if it it because they really thought that Mr Taseer deserved such fate or it was because Mr Taseer was a key PPP person and the reaction would be the same if it was Mailk Rehman or Sherry Rehman or even Zardari himself for that matter who got killed.
I feel that the reaction has little to do with the blasphemy law and more to do with the anti PPP sentiments that has been developed in last year or so. I mean after all Imran Khan was also against the law and quite vocal about it but no one wants any harm against him because general public likes him.
i agree completely. people who are rejoicing his death among my family and friends do not believe him to be blasphemous (the real motive behind his killing) but rejoice nonetheless for reasons such as he was 'corrupt' 'immoral' 'drunkard' 'atheist' 'womaniser' etc etc basically he was made a scapegoat in venting all the frustrations ppl have been harbouring against this govt. otherwise might as well kill 90 % of the politicians in pakistan then for similar reasons
boss, your thread is first step in right direction.
This whole choo choo ka muraba is too complexed to labelled as one thing.
morons can't hear any thing about prophet, fine!! but the dude was talking about a law, not the prophet. you know... but masses show same sentiments as it was an act of blasphemy . Its very strange.
see this is unfair of us 'educated open minded over seas Pakistanis' that we think that all the Pakistanis living in Pakistan are either jahil or insensitive..
Boss again, its not that easy.
Some thing of such magnitude would have strong impact on every one living in pak.
Its strange behaviour.
like you if impose on every one:
This guy did wrong,
a)would you shoot him
b)would you slap him.
Now even the decent folks are going to end up slapping.
If you want educated ppl to act educated. you got to present them with third option in such strong situations.
Which was not there. So I am not surprised to see even educated pakistani tend to find fault with salman actions.
lets be honest, most of us live outside Pakistan, and have been doing so for many years. Its not wholly surprising that our opinions as a group are significantly divergent from the murderer supporting man on the street. a lot has happened in Pakistan over the past years, not least an immersion in a climate of violence where human life has very little value. Dozens of people die every month, and so you start valuing a single life much, much less. For these people its a calculus between possible guilt wrt blasphemy versus the value of a single human life. who knows... in saner times the value of human life might have significantly outweighed the temptation to kill someone for possible blasphemy.
this attitude isnt just with religious killing.. I know people who feel completely okay with giving a high moral ground to an ethnic terrorist organization who they are claiming has killed fewer people than its rivals.