i appreciate u have realised that what he is doing is un islamic. its his personal matter to practice a certain relegion. but if he declares himself a muslim than he cant go the against prime injuction of shariah. and i think his such kind of acts creates controversy and confusion. i remember few months back a fatwa was issued against him from braily (?) that he was no more muslim due to this act of idol worship.
i think he makes fun of the sharaiah injuction every now and then. probably he is lukeworm or confused.
relgious harmony should be appreciated as u mentioned. the things here in pakistan are not much different. many of friends are non muslims. we exchange greetings and gifts on each others festival. Even one of my mother friend who is hindu and when her family was in severe financail crises my family helped her substaintly in monetary terms ....
the points is if u follow certain relegion then follow it properly. dont make it like "Adha teeter Aadha Batair".
Let me ask you a very simple question..Do you think that you are a true muslim by following the entire tenets of sharia. To each, his own. Now dont start about prime injuction and all that.
Let me ask you a very simple question..Do you think that you are a true muslim by following the entire tenets of sharia. To each, his own. Now dont start about prime injuction and all that.
dear mr simple
u think ur question is simple but the shariah is no that simple.
2ndly u have asked me question with a condition and u except an answer with out ne if n and buts........... thats not fair ......... lols
man there is lot of if n buts in this regards. so u can get the answer but it wud be conditional.
i appreciate u have realised that what he is doing is un islamic. its his personal matter to practice a certain relegion. but if he declares himself a muslim than he cant go the against prime injuction of shariah. and i think his such kind of acts creates controversy and confusion. i remember few months back a fatwa was issued against him from braily (?) that he was no more muslim due to this act of idol worship.
Well Mevirick, it should be he should not go against prime injunction of shariyah rather than he cant. Why should be there any controversy or confusion if one individual is involved in idol worshipping even if he calls himself a muslim? After all again he is answerable to his deeds not anyone else.
And as far as fatwa from Barailly is concerned, the Barailwys should first confirm if they are muslims or not, coz what I have learnt studying Islam is that asking for favours from someone else than ALLAH itself amounts to Shirk. And they do this quiet regularly,as their prime religious duty.
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i think he makes fun of the sharaiah injuction every now and then. probably he is lukeworm or confused.
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Brother plz dont get offended, but what about banks in Pakistan offering interest to its depositers? Isnt it fun of shariyah injunction? What about flourishing Pakistani music industry? what about musical quawwalis that are sung on countless paksitani dargahs even at the time of Namaz? Why single out Salman??
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relgious harmony should be appreciated as u mentioned. the things here in pakistan are not much different. many of friends are non muslims. we exchange greetings and gifts on each others festival. Even one of my mother friend who is hindu and when her family was in severe financail crises my family helped her substaintly in monetary terms ....
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I really appreciate it.
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the points is if u follow certain relegion then follow it properly. dont make it like "Adha teeter Aadha Batair".
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I agree, but when ppls in Islamic Nations make it "Adha teetar Adha Batair" than what is the big deal when Bollywood hunk Salman is doing that. Spare him too.
yar main nay tu salman ku aisa kuch nahi kaha ...... but i did not think that it is a positive behaviour that u follow a relegion and do things that is against the prime injunction of islam. beside u start performing the ritual of other relegion that is not acceptable in islam.
in the given scenario we cant completely blame salman for his scoundrel behaviour his parents are equally liable. i think cross maraiage is not allowed in hinduism as well (though im not sure about it).
in my personal opinion cross relegion marriages should be made illegal through requiste legislation. i understand that is not very simple but if majority agrees to it govt shud take step in this direction.
it is his personal action but as a unit of society one's person action also effect the society.
i appreciate u have realised that what he is doing is un islamic. its his personal matter to practice a certain relegion. but if he declares himself a muslim than he cant go the against prime injuction of shariah. and i think his such kind of acts creates controversy and confusion. i remember few months back a fatwa was issued against him from braily (?) that he was no more muslim due to this act of idol worship.
i think he makes fun of the sharaiah injuction every now and then. probably he is lukeworm or confused.
relgious harmony should be appreciated as u mentioned. the things here in pakistan are not much different. many of friends are non muslims. we exchange greetings and gifts on each others festival. Even one of my mother friend who is hindu and when her family was in severe financail crises my family helped her substaintly in monetary terms ....
the points is if u follow certain relegion then follow it properly. dont make it like "Adha teeter Aadha Batair".
Celebrating a holiday and taking part in festivities does NOT make one an idol worshiper.
He likely would make fun of "shariah," injunctions because these in question are derived from impotent (i.e powerless), pseudo-fascists who spin their wheels and try to pepper their distaste for him with religious rationalizations.
Only Allah knows one's intention, so please don't pretend that you do.
as far as ur point of view about brelvi is concerned and the allegation of shirk that is generally imposed upon them is a very controversial area. there are many types of shirk as defined by the scholars.
the issue is not that simple thoug i have an idea of it. still considering the sensitivty of the issue i wud suggest u to discuss the same wid learned scholar who belongs to brelvi maslik. in my person opinion they are not mushrik however the difference are in details and 2ndry beliefs of deen.
you have rightly pointed the matter of interest. yes we have this evil in our country and even in the whole ummat e muslima. but to tell that now we have 6 islamic banks and many other conventional banks with islamic banking operations. though sizeof the islamic banking industry is not that big but they are growing at a fast pace.
recently the meezan bank the largest islamic bank is pakistan balance sheet footing touched rs. 100,000,000, 000. further islamic and shariah compliant mutual fund market is evolving. as far debt security is concerned pakistani banks have successfully launched sukuk bonds here in pakistan and in the international market.............
but shirk and kufr is above all
as quran said "
"innashaka la zulm ul azim"
"shirk is the greatest sin"
definitely he will see in the life hereafter for what he is doing now.
Celebrating a holiday and taking part in festivities does NOT make one an idol worshiper.
He likely would make fun of "shariah," injunctions because these in question are derived from impotent (i.e powerless), pseudo-fascists who spin their wheels and try to pepper their distaste for him with religious rationalizations.
Only Allah knows one's intention, so please don't pretend that you do.
u r rite that allah knows the real intention. but ur actions determine ur status and standing as a muslim in this world.
if this is not the case then there wud have no need to differentaite between muslim and momin and muslim and fasiq.
yar main nay tu salman ku aisa kuch nahi kaha ...... but i did not think that it is a positive behaviour that u follow a relegion and do things that is against the prime injunction of islam. beside u start performing the ritual of other relegion that is not acceptable in islam.
in the given scenario we cant completely blame salman for his scoundrel behaviour his parents are equally liable. i think cross maraiage is not allowed in hinduism as well (though im not sure about it).
in my personal opinion cross relegion marriages should be made illegal through requiste legislation. i understand that is not very simple but if majority agrees to it govt shud take step in this direction.
it is his personal action but as a unit of society one's person action also effect the society.
I agree that its not a positive behaviour, but in modern societies U are not only free to do right but U are free to do wrong also. Thats why Salman is worshipping ganesha, his father marrying a hindu, and ppls in Pakistan devouring interest. Make habit to live with it all. Nothing of them are acceptable in Islam.
I object to use of word scoundral behaviour, rather it should be unislamic behaviour. In fact I dont agree to what Salman has done, but I dont think thats his actions should be over hyped.
So in ur personal opinion, Muslim men's marriage to Jew or Christian women should be made illegal? I advice U to think again.
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So what U suggest should be done in his case? As the whole society is going to be affected by his action.
u r rite that allah knows the real intention. but ur actions determine ur status and standing as a muslim in this world.
if this is not the case then there wud have no need to differentaite between muslim and momin and muslim and fasiq.
Yet we are not allowed to make such distinctions ourselves. We can only advise.
Why is there a need? In this world, Muslim/Islam is an umbrella term. There are a multitude of sects within Islam, and they all differ-- some more than others. So, why not just leave people alone and politely remind them of what Allah says, rather than trying to force it down their throats with fatwa's that carry as much weight as Monopoly money?
as far as ur point of view about brelvi is concerned and the allegation of shirk that is generally imposed upon them is a very controversial area. there are many types of shirk as defined by the scholars.
the issue is not that simple thoug i have an idea of it. still considering the sensitivty of the issue i wud suggest u to discuss the same wid learned scholar who belongs to brelvi maslik. in my person opinion they are not mushrik however the difference are in details and 2ndry beliefs of deen
Brother tell me one thing, will consulting any scholer about Islamic teachings gonna help anyone on the day of judgement? Will anyone be able to hide behind any scholer telling ALLAH that he told me to do this act thats why I did it? And thankfully there are lots of lots of Islamic scholer with entirely different and contradictory interpretation of religion.
So I chose to hearing different views and deciding from my own which one is right one. Let me tell U that discussing various subjects from scholers of different Maslik is my hobby. So I get hold of whenever I find an Islamic scholer of any sect to get his views about topics.
I have already discuessed Barailwy scholers and their example of WASEELA doesnt sound quiet convincing to me. A Judge who is open to corruption cant be compared to ALLAH the uncompareble and advocate who is often a liar cant be compared to Buzurgan E Deen. I m sorry if it goes against ur faith,but thats the way I feel and I m answerable to it, no one else. Thats it.
Depends on who you talk too... There is a particular school of Sufism, Chisti I believe, that was popular in early Indian-Muslim history, that believes in a transcedental deity that permeates through all things, and is common to all beings, and thus sort of validates this view. I
s this Indian? I dont know, but it certainly won many converts in early India. But would most INDIAN Muslims of today agree with this "Indian" Interpretation of their faith? I seriously doubt that. Im certain most Indian Muslims wouldnt approve of Salman Khans father marrying a Hindu.
Is the act of this particular marrassi is important enough to be discussed here? These actors and actresses will do anything to stay in news.. just not pay attention to them, they are entertainers and nothing more than that..
Depends on who you talk too... There is a particular school of Sufism, Chisti I believe, that was popular in early Indian-Muslim history, that believes in a transcedental deity that permeates through all things, and is common to all beings, and thus sort of validates this view. I
s this Indian? I dont know, but it certainly won many converts in early India. But would most INDIAN Muslims of today agree with this "Indian" Interpretation of their faith? I seriously doubt that. Im certain most Indian Muslims wouldnt approve of Salman Khans father marrying a Hindu.
My experience in India is Muslims taking part in Hindu celebrations.
Is the act of this particular marrassi is important enough to be discussed here? These actors and actresses will do anything to stay in news.. just not pay attention to them, they are entertainers and nothing more than that..
I will not refute your statememnt.But Mr.Salman has been doing this for years and he does not have to indulge in an act like this,to gain popularity.Moreover he and his family defy radical Muslim clergy's remonstrations each time. :)
I will not refute your statememnt.But Mr.Salman has been doing this for years and he does not have to indulge in an act like this,to gain popularity.Moreover he and his family defy radical Muslim clergy's remonstrations each time. :)
And work of years has paid up, finally he is in the news and this time not for terrorism and/or links with under-world or hunting black dears, this time something which is liked by the majority of his viewership.. now he can sit back and relax and enjoy the status...
He and his family had to defy the clergy, otherwise how come almost nude Maliaka can be their daughter-in-law.. i mean come on, not even Hindu families allow their daughter in laws to wear such dresses.. but yes salman's family which is nothing but ChooN ChooN ka Muraba will not only allow this but they will encourage them to go out all nude.. this is something they might have to do to prove that they are not muslims
