ASTAGHFIRULLAH HA RABI WATUBUILAY!!! I recently read sahih bukhari and i think it was weird!!! Well am i supposed ta belive it. don’t take me wrong but he shoundn’t have gave GOD A FACE in sahih bukhari i mean after all has he met god and had dinner with him???
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I am as sweet as sugar
I am as hot as spice
But 1 more thing
I am also very nice!!
Its simple.
If you don’t like some ahadith in that book, don’t believe them.
If you don’t believe the whole book. Don’t believe it.
Its just a collection of ahadith, collected by a scholar after much verification. There can be human error and/or errors by narrators. But more chance is that you need to look into the explanation of that particular hadith. If you feel really confused, write the hadith with full references to a bona-fide islamic scholar on an authentic website. Two of the websites, which usually provide good replies are www.understanding-islam.com and www.islam-qa.com - These site provide responses to your questions sent via email.
Don’t rely on neem-mullah’s available free of charge on this forum!
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Take care
Don’t Blame me…
C’est La Vie 
Assalam-Alaikum Pristine,
Got a question for you.. this has been playing on my mind for a few days.
You mention that the Sahih Bukhari was written by a human so it could be full of errors right?
Does that mean that ANY hadith that have been written, whether they be Sahih Bukhari, Muslim, Nahjul Balagha etc could be wrong?
After all they are all interpreted by humans so what could make one more factual than the other?
This is a serious question and is not intended to be turned into a Shia/Sunni debate!!
Jazakallah Pristine.
GirlThing: I haven't finished reading Sahih Bukhari yet as there is a lot of content.. how long did it take you to read it all?
GIrl thing,
plz provide the hadith regarding the "face of God" with chapter headings and numbers so we can all verify....thank you..
Yesterday is history,
Tommorow is a mystery,
Today is a gift,
That's why we call it PRESENT!
CoolDude:
Wait a sec.... why do you think I don't accept Sahi Bukhari or I consider it is full of errors. On the contrary, I am of the belief that Sahi Bukhari is probably the most authentic book of Islamic teachings (ahadith) after Quran.
Having said that, I was responding to the question raised by Girthing. Now, rationally thinking, we all know that Sahih were written 300 years after the Prophet (SAWW) and despite the best intention of the narrators, the possibility of human error, in memory, or in words, can not be totally eliminated. If you read the preface of Sahi Bukhari, it clearly shows the method of verifying ahadith adopted by Imam Bukhari. The last test was that he (Bukhari) used to carry out Istikhara to get Allah's guidance on whether a certain hadith is correct or not. This shows, that despite verifying the chain of narrators, Bukhari himself, would, in the end, ask Allah for guidance on whether a hadith is correct or not.
Lets assume that all ahadith in Bukhari are correct (as is my and your belief is). In this case, if someone reads a hadith and gets confused by it, bcz it tells something which he couldn't fathom, then the only conclusion is that the hadith is correct, but the person reading it has lack of comprehension because he/she couldn't read the hadith in its correct context nor he/she could gather the meaning of the hadith. For these sort of problems, the best recourse is to consult an aalim or scholar who can explain the context and the meaning of the hadith in simple words.
I am not qualified to explain the more difficult of ahadith or ayat. Nor do I expect anyone who doesnot have full knowledge of Quran, Sunnah, ahadith and the islamic jurisprudence and rulings developed over 1500 years.
Don't Blame me...
C'est La Vie :)
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Sheraz, you've just posted somebody's opinions!!!
I can't find the hadith that are referred to in your post.
Find them in the link I gave you for Sahih Bukhari and Muslim.
Jazakallah
P.s. Can the Naghul Balagha be wrong? Just curious if you will answer this question.
cool dude are u saying these things are not in sahi bukhari? i got this from a shia/sunni debate that happend in peshawar
book is called peshawar nights and u might find it interesting www.al-islam.org/peshawar
and what do u mean if Nahjul Balagha can be wrong? the book has Sermons given by Imam Ali..so find me a fault in it and then we can talk about it
Sherraaz (again, there is a reason for the nick)
Now, I only believe in SAHIH BUKHARI and the Quran.
Secondly, I researched all teh topics under KITABUL-ADHAN and cannot find teh event/story you've provided above. Thirdly, your event/story relates to HELL NOT ADHAN!!! IF IT WAS ABOUT ADHAN, it would be under ADHAN.....
THirdly,they are currently banning unoffical/offical sites off the internet b/c they provide the wrong information, therefore books are better resources.....I have a copy of SAHIH BUKHARI right in front of me, and yet i cannot locate such a 'waqiah'....plus there are different types of Sahih Bukhari in regards to # of volumes/page numbers...you should give the topic # with a heading....
Hoping to hear from ya soon...
Yesterday is history,
Tommorow is a mystery,
Today is a gift,
That's why we call it PRESENT!
Even with my limited knowledge I have to say that I agree with X-Commi there.
I'd like to know the details that Sherazz has been asked to provide as well.
It will help to clarify certain things for me.
well it took me about a month to read it. and i don't think that i really want to qoute that THING
I am as sweet as sugar
I am as hot as spice
But 1 more thing
I am also very nice!!
astagfirullah
Girl thing,
If you don't back up your claim ie. by not quoting from that 'thing' as you call it, how are we to treat your argument as valid?
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Originally posted by Sherazz:
...and what do u mean if Nahjul Balagha can be wrong? the book has Sermons given by Imam Ali..so find me a fault in it and then we can talk about it
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Find the original hadith we asked for please.
Also, question for you:
Who wrote the Nahjul Balagha?
Jazakallah
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Originally posted by CoolDude:
**Sheraz, you've just posted somebody's opinions!!!
I can't find the hadith that are referred to in your post.
Find them in the link I gave you for Sahih Bukhari and Muslim.
Jazakallah
P.s. Can the Naghul Balagha be wrong? Just curious if you will answer this question.**
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Dhek lo Upni kitab may say hee nahee milree! I think He gave the verses numbers!
Where is the link so I can find it for you!(i don't have one here at home)
I remember reading A verse that said
"On the day of Judgement All the muslims will be gatherd (the rest are in hell)and then Allah will Show his Shin(Yes the body part Shin)and All the muslims will do Sajdah to it"!Shin I belive you can see and Allah says that "Vision comprehends him not"!
If I can find the books on the net I will surely find the Hadith!
OUR LORD! WE HAVE INDEED HEARD THE VOICE OF A CRIER(MESSENGER)CALLING TO THE FAITH: "BELIVE IN YOUR LORD" SO WE BELIVED. OUR LORD! FORGIVE US THEN OUR SINS, AND REMOVE FROM US OUR EVIL DEEDS, AND CAUSE US DIE ALONG WITH THE VIRTUOUS
(3:193)
Here are the links:
Sahih Bukhari
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/
Sahih Muslim
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/
Lets see if you have any luck..
Jazakallah
Muzna baji my meaning of saying "THING" was not for sahih bukhari, i was saying that i am tooooooo lazy to quote it
I am as sweet as sugar
I am as hot as spice
But 1 more thing
I am also very nice!!
Question still stands:
Who wrote the Nahjul Balagha?
Just Curious.
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Originally posted by CoolDude:
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Who wrote the Nahjul Balagha?
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Imam Ali
I am as sweet as sugar
I am as hot as spice
But 1 more thing
I am also very nice!!