sadly this is so true.

A very valid point for muslims to think about..

IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THE MERCIFUL.

Are you an Invisible Muslim?

Funny how simple it is for people
to trash God
and then wonder why the
world’s going to hell.
Funny how we believe
what the newspapers say,
but question what the Quran says.
Funny how everyone wants to
go to heaven provided
they do not have to believe, think, say,
or do anything the Quran says.
Or is it scary?
Funny how someone can say
I believe in God"
but still
follow Satan
who, by the way, also “believes” in God).
Funny how you can send a thousand
‘jokes’ through e-mail and they
spread like wildfire, but when you start
sending messages regarding Islam ,
people think twice about sharing.
Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar
and obscene pass freely through cyberspace,
but the public discussion of
Muhamed, is suppressed in the school and
workplace
FUNNY, ISN’T IT?
Funny how someone can be so
fired up for prayers on
Friday but be an invisible
Moslem the rest of the week.
Are you laughing?
Funny how when you go
to forward this message,
you will not send it to many on
your address list because
you’re not sure what they believe,
or what they will
think of you for sending it to them.
Funny how I can be more worried
about what other
people think of me than
what God thinks of me.
Are you thinking?

Hello.. Wake up… Before it’s too late.

“God heals and the doctors take the fees.”

"God heals and the doctors take the fees."<

Funny how simple it is for people
to trash Doctors,
and yet run to them
for every silly tummy-ache..
Funny how it's God who cures,
and its the Doc who get's blamed
everytime something goes wrong..
Funny how easily people can thank,
not the Doc who spent 2 decades studying life
and another decade saving lives,
but a "God",
a creature as whimsical as a three year old!

We dont need no supernaturals to mess up our lives, O lazy God, go fight satan, that'll solve the whole problem.

Astaghfirullah! There is a saying Queer, it goes like this: “if you can’t say anything nice, it’s better not to say anything at all.” If you don’t have respect for God, do keep in mind, there are others in this world who do hold utmost respect for Him. And I suggest next time before you say something disrespectful, double think!

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Queer.
Thanks man, for expressing my sentiments...
Rare diamond,
God isnt important enuff for me to even say , not so nice things for her.
You are more important to me then her...I shall refrain from saying anyhting that hurts you.

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Originally posted by queer:
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a "God",
a creature as whimsical as a three year old!

We dont need no supernaturals to mess up our lives, O lazy God, go fight satan, that'll solve the whole problem.**
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No wonder why there are so many hindu vs Muslim posts here. Queer, think about what you just said. After saying this I don't think you can blame muslims for attacking your religion. Frankly, ppl like you don't deserve any respect. This is it ! this form is full of b.s. ... I'm never going to come here again !!!

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Goku,

"..this form is full of b.s. ... I'm never going to come here again !!!"

Shukria!

If only few others would be as polite as yourself...some of us would actually be able to enjoy meaningful discussions, instead of leaping for each others throats every time the word God/Allah is mentioned.....

It started with a simple joke, then turned into this.

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Queer, I don't have anything to say to you. If you can't be polite, then it's useless talking with you.

Nova, If you can't respect the One who created you, then there is no way you can respect His creations.

Umair, you are right. Seems like people can't help being rude..specially around this forum.

folks, queer sadamatatatamurti.bartan.dhonay.wala.manjan is talking about his own 3 year old made out stone god named shankar here.

no need to panic. :)

Mundyaa - Good point.

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Nova, If you can't respect the One who created you, then there is no way you can respect His creations.

**
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...and there is no way you can get any respect from his creations.

Salaam

Queer and Nova have right to believe in what they want to believe in. Actually I agree with Nova's sentiments that it is more important to respect your fellow citizen then to show devotion God- which none of us have seen.

Most of the God fearing people on this thread have resorted to bad language and put downs to prove their point and show their love for God....maybe they think it is okay to be intolerant and abusive if they are defending GOD.

Mundayaa,

queer sadamatatatamurti.bartan.dhonay.wala.manjan <<

Why do you think 'bartan dhonay wala' is an abuse, all work is noble and all human beings are equal. It is obvious by your abuses that your believe in God has not helped you in any way. By putting down other people's way of worship and making fun of their rituals you are only showing your insensitivity, intolerance and narrow mindedness.

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Why do you think 'bartan dhonay wala' is an abuse, all work is noble and all human being equal. It is obvious by your abuses that your believe in God has not helped you in any way. By putting down other people's way of worship and making fun of their rituals you are only showing your insensitivity, intolerance and narrow mindedness. <<<<

rani, when did i say bartan dhona is an abuse? but i did make FUN of the long last names that some of u folks have. now if it went way above ur head then u should get the qaida from xfactor and start reading.

i might be narrowminded, intolerant and insenstive.... but atleast i aint a hindu.

:)

Dear Rare Diamonds,

sorry if i hurt your faith, all i wanted to do was to show you that you have hurt mine. i believe in humanity to be bigger than any God, and i didnt like the way you put down doctors in your attempt to flatter God. you can sing all the praises you want to remind him that you are his humble servant, but please, dont use others as stepping stones for this kind of toadiness - especially not doctors, many of whom have spent a good deal of their life saving others lives. i dont see why i shouldnt protest when such people are being discredited of the fruit of their labor with inane comments like "docs grab the fee but God saves lives". i dont think even God would like that.

If you can't respect the One who created you, then there is no way you can respect His creations<

if you cant love your fellow humans, i doubt if your love for God is really love. if God created me, he also gave me logical reasoning power, and i find that there isnt any conclusive evidence for the existance of God. if there indeed is a God, he expects you to be use your gift and respect folk who serve mankind rather than worship Him, whose existance is beyond logical proof. first your fellow creatures, then God, if you get thru the first stage.

Goku,

what makes this a hindu-muslim fight? i dont consider myself a hindu either. hope that makes matters better for you..

mundyaa,

more racial comments... :) you are the perfect illustration of religion and God turning against humanity.

ps> i do my own dishes nowadays.

Mundayaa

i might be narrowminded, intolerant and insenstive.... but atleast i aint a hindu.<<

So glad that you are not one of us.

Queer,

Great post, I agree with your sentiments, I am also a humanist first and anything else second.

So glad that you are not one of us. <<<

i wish ur fellow hindus felt the same way... i wonder why most of them are so eager to convert to christianity, Islam and other religions.

see when u r reading the newspapers and read how Pakistani infiltrators caused every single problem in india and how women in Pakistan are harrassed into observing pardah... well, maybe u should also read when hindu women convert to Islam due to the concept of pardah and when mass scores of hindus want to convert to other religions. no body puts a gun on their head today.... its the fact that they are sick and tired of the inequality, injustice and perverted material that exists in hinduism.

now if u have turned ethiest like queer cos u just dont want to be associated with the hindu religion then u have made a good choice. anything is better than hinduism. :)

Mundayaa,

I like living and being friends with Hindus and I am glad that people (bigots) like you are not part of our group.

I think Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism and other eastern religion are the most tolerant religions and they meet my spritual needs and I will never leave them and convert to any middle eastern religion.

I think Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism and other eastern religion are the most tolerant religions and they meet my spritual needs and I will never leave them and convert to any middle eastern religion. <<<<<

i think muslims were very tolerant... if they werent would ur ancestors have survived the thousand year muslim rule.

and customs like "satti" wouldnt have helped either.

i think muslims were very tolerant... if they werent would ur ancestors have survived the thousand year muslim rule.<<

Our ancestors were very strong people they fought back...read Sikh history, written by a neutral party (english) not distorted and fabricated one taught in madrassas. I will seriously advice you to read real history. It is not good to be so ignorant.

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Rani says: >>“…I will seriously advice you to read real history. It is not good to be so ignorant…”

From a paan wala to a scholar, all and sundry can debate at length on religion and politics, equally. The difference is the choice of words.

Madam Rani, you seem to be a very optimistic personality... I agree with your advice /opinion.

Unfortunately, I started a discussion on the basis of “neutral” history. But one of our gupshup friend rejected it for obvious reasons. If you want discuss “SIKH” history on the basis of “NEUTRAL” facts, then be my guest. Not like him, who try to present something in his own font, like its gray and large and has trunk and has large ears and is the symbol of American democratic party, .... but it’s not an elephant. So be precise and share facts which are acceptable to a average human intellect… calling names and cursing each other, is the most easiest thing a person can present.

To cut short, mundya says that muslims were tolerant, I agree with him to some extent, as I see the picture with a different angle. On the other hand, it’s the power, which rules the feebler. It is quite a biased attempt to support either party on the basis of strong ancestry. Moslims were wrong at some bends as well, though their decision was based on their own egos and not for the sake of Islam.

I also seriously advice all my friends to read real history. It is not good to be so ignorant...

bye for now.

To cut short, mundya says that muslims were tolerant, I agree with him to some extent, as I see the picture with a different angle. On the other hand, it’s the power, which rules the feebler. It is quite a biased attempt to support either party on the basis of strong ancestry. Moslims were wrong at some bends as well, though their decision was based on their own egos and not for the sake of Islam. <<<<

agreed... some of them screwed up badly. while they should have been busy preaching Islam to others they were actually building taj mahals for their wives.

rani, if they werent tolerant why would u see so many committed muslims coverted from your own clan. if they were all looters and murderers as you portray them to be how would they leave a legacy of so many muslims converted from your ancestors? im no big fan of the kingdoms that ruled india but u will be kidding ur self if u think they werent powerful enough to annhilate all the hindus.

and u can go read all the neutral gora history u want... they wouldnt have anything good to say about muslims cos they are themselves scared of the fastest growing religion in the world just like you.