Sadly! The "religion" will become a "dirty word" in Pakistan

The way religious emotions are being used to kill and destroy Pakistan, one day Pakistanis will wake up. Then they will see the monster who is abusing our religion.

As a result of this, people will start abhorring and hating the religion to the point, that religion will become a dirty word.

This is nothing new. Back in the medieval days, Europeans suffered at the hands of religious mafia. As a result people over there reached the boiling point and said “enough!”.

Religion then was put in a corner or altogether buried under 6 feet of dirt. The same thing will happen in Pakistan too, when the middle class, and the intellectuals will see their sons and daughters getting slaughtered by the religious mafia.

Just like European fanatics were burning alive the innocent people, by declaring them “witches”, we now see in Pakistan our soldiers, our officers, our teachers, our minorities are being blown to pieces all in the name of religion.

Just like Europeans, one day we have to realize that religion has to be buried 6 feet under, if we want to survive as a country.

We will start fearing any man wearing a beard or a woman wearing a hijab. We’ll start shunning the mosque and madrasssah because these have become the sources of violence, death, and destruction.

Truly sad that the things have gone to the dogs when it comes to our religion.

Re: Sadly! The "religion" will become a "dirty word" in Pakistan

^ I agree with the dude

Pakistanis wont "bury" religion, but extremism.

What if "religion" is the root of "extremism"?

What would you bury then, the root or the tentacles?

Ghamidi is a person who has more logical things to say as far as religion is concerned... trying listening to him

Ghamdi is a good guy. Talks sense and all.

The problem with Pakistani religion is simple!

It has one Ghamdi facing off 1,000,000 Mullahs.

The result! Terrible use of our religion by the terrorists.

Re: Sadly! The "religion" will become a "dirty word" in Pakistan

No muslim hates his own faith. Those who do are weak in the faith in the first place and deserve no consideration at all. After all the Quran has warned us of such people and their double crossing ways.

@ burqaposhx](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/members/burqaposhx.html)

i think we are not as a whole a practicing muslim nation. How many namazi u see in the fajr prayer in the mosque?

Religion is not the dirty word and it wud never become. Dirty are the followers. y u always points out the mullah ( though i consider it the derogatory term…) see rest of the fields look at our politician, businessmen, beaurucrates, showbiz personalities, doctors, lawayers and even journalist.

everybody is flouting the law. everyone is doing tax evasion and misusing the powers they have. Extortion, killings and encroachment supported by the politicians, they are muslims as well.

Actually due to non practice of the religion we have develop a notion that deen is the responsibility of the imam, muazzan and mufti. as an indidual muslim i m not responsible for it.

everybody in the media criticise ulema for their wrongdoings but nonbody dare to do sth in the right direction. by sending their children to the well reputed madressahs or even establish seat of learning for the islamic education. By blaming others u cant set the things right.

mushharaf said that i wud set up model madderrsa but cud not even build even a single institution. actually there is a lobby in our top officials and politician who are anti relegion. They never want to do nething to improve in the relegious system.

many times scholars proposed to the govt that it shud to take control of the mosques (like saudia )and pay salaries to the imams and other staff related to the mosque from the govt exchequer. so that the sectarianism cud be controlled. but the govt is not willing to spend a penny in this regard. We are a muslim nation wid 97% muslim population but our govt are not willling to pay nething to promote relegious awareness and education among the population.

in the recent study Pricewatercoopers a big four Audit and Advisory firm has highlighted that religious values have direct link with the level of integrity of the employees.

We have dozen of public sector universities and 100’s of other state run institutions but we dont see ne such support for the relegious institutions.

u will see gud and ppl in every profession. i have heard about the CA’s who wud issue u a clean audit report for ur company accounts against few thousands rupees but on the other hand there are well reputed CA firm also exist that dont compromise their integrity. same is the case wid lawyer and judges. The same is the case with religious scholars.

maverick hit the nail on the head

Fajr prayer is not a “touch stone” that can change people for the better.

It is a fact most of the suicide bombers and their handlers say daily Fajr prayer in a mosque. And use mosque for hiding just before their commit the Satanic act (Wah factory bombing).

If you look at it without getting emotional, that doing more fajr prayers are in fact leading to more death and destruction.

So using your logic, Hitler and Nazism was not dirty. Just the Nazi followers were dirty???

Or Stalin and communism wasn’t terrible, just the communists were dirty?

What kind of logic is that?

You're trying to blame every problem on religion. There are a good number of horrible and corrupt people in our country who have almost nothing to do with their religion. And there are nice and intelligent people who are very religious. Terrorists and extremists are uneducated and ignorant, so they easily misinterpret islam. Do our (moderate) religious scholars blow themselves up in public?

Besides, fajr prayers are good for your health.

No!psee.

Not every problem!

Just the problem of "religious extremism" is being attributed to the religion.

If you bury religion under dirt then how someone will justify ruling over Pashtuns, sindhis, baluch and other minorities? And for that matter, why would you need Pakistan after all?

Hopefully you are not trying to introduce ethnic and racial angle in this thread. We have enough of those threads already.

Bhai meray!

The only way one can rule Punjab or Sindh, or Frontier or Balochistan etc. is by providing stability, justice, and creating an environment for economic development.

Without these essentials, no religion and no nationalism can keep our country together. I mean look at the hashar of Afghanis.

Pashtuns or other minorities will give a hoot to the religious Mullahism if they start getting a strong economic upsurge, stability, and law enforcement.

On the other hand, if there is no stability, then Pak cannot rule even Punjab. Because empty religious slogans do not fill stomachs.

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See this news but keep in mind that
*burqaposh maulvi * of ** Lal Masjid is now free with the orders of SC.
**Monday October 12, 2009 04:29PM
LHC orders to quash cases against Hafiz Saeed under terrorism act
The Lahore High Court (LHC) has ordered to quash cases against the Jammat-ud-Dawa Chief Hafiz Saeed under terrorism act, Dunya News Monday reported. The court observed that JD was not a banned organization. A division bench comprising of Justice Asif Saeed Khosa and Justice Najam-ul-Hasan heard the case. Giving arguments, Saeed’s lawyer AK Dogar said that Punjab Government hadn’t presented any sort of order in the court and talking about Islam didn’t come under terrorism act. Assistant Advocate General Punjab Malik Abdul Aziz told the court that the government hadn’t issued any notification to declare JD as banned organization. Justice Khosa remarked that inviting somebody on iftari and addressing some ceremony wasn’t a crime however collecting donation for a banned organization was a crime. “Should we do terrorism with the law if the others are doing terrorism,” Justice Khosa remarked. The court told that the cases registered against Hafiz Saeed didn’t come under terrorism act and should be dropped.
Noted analyst Dr Hasan Askari told Dunya News that India’s response would be negative in this regard. He opined that India watched its interests in a secured style and had a negative approach. The India will give statements on it and Pak-India relations are already sour these days, he added
It was a Dunya TV web Report

re: PA Team, give opinion! Sadly! The

For the love of Allah are you equating Hazart Mohammed and Islam to Hitler and Nazism? Are you that [ouch! watch your lingo, please!] deranged?

Maverick is right. Islam will never be a dirty word for Muslims and Pakistanis. If you have such a problem [ouch! watch your lingo, please!]covert already and shut it.

Re: Sadly! The "religion" will become a "dirty word" in Pakistan

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We will start fearing any man wearing a beard or a woman wearing a hijab. We'll start shunning the mosque and madrasssah because these have become the sources of violence, death, and destruction.

Truly sad that the things have gone to the dogs when it comes to our religion.
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i think you are confusing the west and its media propaganda with the reality in Pakistan. absolutely no one is blaming religion on the street and things have certainly NOT gone to the 'dogs when it comes to religion' and if it hasn't happened yet it ain't happening. period.

Faith alone is what is keeping these people going and sane in these violent times, its giving them the courage to survive the hideous bloodshed in their backyards, the source of hope with which they wake up everyday to face another bloodbath on the streets.

religion has NOTHING to do with it and joe public knows it, do not undermine their common sense, faith and intelligence just because you have taken leave of yours. what a load of bull.

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I agree with Burqaposh, religion will become dirty word, Pakistan will adopt policies like Egypt/Jordan where sporting a beard will become a crime/suspect, going 5 times to masjid will make intelligence agencies follow you all around etc.

Hopefully that's true.

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i just want to high light that there is a tremendous increase in the enrollment of students in moderate and well reputed madressahs like Drul uloom Karachi and Banoori Town.

further the madaris have setup computer labs and and also teaching english to the student that wud definitely enable them to make themselves aware of whats going around in the world. i hope in the years to come when when these students will complete their education they wud be in better position to create awareness of the teaching of islam in pakistan and rest of the world.

may allah make us praticing muslim.