Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

Russia blocks sale of Chinese jets to Pakistan

http://www.hindu.com/2007/01/22/stories/2007012206341400.htm

MOSCOW: Russia has blocked the sale of Chinese fighter planes with Russian engines to Pakistan.

“We’ve denied China the right to supply its JF-17 fighter aircraft powered by Russian RD-93 engines to third countries, asking it to sign an end-user certificate for the engines,” said Colonel-General Anatoly Mazurkevich, head of the Defence Ministry’s International Cooperation Department.

President Pervez Musharraf said last year that the JF-17s would be flying in Pakistani skies by March 2007. Islamabad plans to acquire 150 JF-17s, known in China as FC-1. China has bought 100 Klimov RD-93 engines from Russia for installing on JF-17s, with an option to contract another 400 engines.

Speaking to Indian and Russian journalists ahead of a visit to India by Russia’s Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov on January 22, Col.-Gen. Mazurkevich confirmed that India and Russia are shortly to sign accords to jointly develop and produce a 5th generation fighter plane and a multi-role transport aircraft.

India is expected to announce during Mr. Ivanov’s visit its choice between two Russian concepts of a multi-role stealth fighter plane of the 5th generation that the Russian aviation majors, Sukhoi and MIG, presented to the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) last year.

The aircraft deals will be discussed when Mr. Ivanov co-chairs with Defence Minister A.K. Antony the 6th meeting of the Indo-Russian Inter-Governmental Commission for Military-Technical Cooperation. Ahead of the commission meeting on January 24 Mr. Ivanov will fly to Bangalore to visit the HAL and the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO), as well as some leading Information and Technology companies, and meet business people.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

Unlike USA; Russia will always prove to be a long term friend for India.

India probably put pressure on Russia to stop the sales of the J-10 from China to Pakistan; especially since Russia wants to sell billions of dollars worth of aircraft and other supplies to India.

The J-10 performance is about equal to the F-16 and maybe even the F-18.
It is based on 30 year old technology so it is no match at all for the F-22 and the Joint Strike Fighter. It is probably no match for the latest version of SU-30 that Russia is supplying to India.
However; the J-10 is probably equal to or even better than the Mig-29's that form the bulk of Indian air-force. And 150 J-10 will form an good counterbalance atleast defensively to the Indian air-force.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

its a pretty well known fact, russia is to india what china is to pakistan.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

But Russians and Chinese don't behave the way Indians and Pakistanis behave. Kash iska ulta bhi hota. Duniya ka satyanaash hota.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

Fekin Russian...

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

Man I am so depressed after hearing this news.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

this issue is probably already sorted, came out a few years back!

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

Some insight into this and Chinese development.

http://www.strategycenter.net/research/pubID.140/pub_detail.asp

I am pretty certain, FC-1 may use a modified version of the engine currently in use in J-10. China is developing thrust vectoring for the engine.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

Bangalor. 23 January. INTERFAKS-AVN - Vice- premier - Minister of Defense RF Sergey Ivanov denied report, that Russia allegedly blocked supply agreement to Pakistan of Chinese combat aircraft.

"Russia nothing blocks. This is not our policy ", he stated on Tuesday to journalists in Bangalore.

At the same time S.Ivanov it noted that in a question of military technical collaboration Russia strictly soblyudayet international law. "I have in the form a certificate of the end user. RF achieves trade in weapon only with the presence of this certificate ", it emphasized S.Ivanov.

Source Interfax

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

You have any source, other than hindu.com? perhaps a Pakistani, or Chinese, or even a Russian source?

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

can you give me link to this news

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

http://www.interfax.com/search.aspx?query=Ivanov

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

Any official comment from the Pakistani government? If yes please provide the link. Thanks

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

^^ No official comments from Russia, Pakistan, and China. All coming from India.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

If you rely on others, you get this.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

^^ There is nothing here mate - just a barking dog.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

The Hindu - liars.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

It doesn't make sense. Russia is in no position to dictate terms to Chinese. Also this is an old project and all the details were sorted out before Pakistan and China went ahead with this joint venture. So screw the indian *******s.

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

*No worries mate. First of all the news is not true and even if it was I am sure they have some alternative in mind. *

Re: Russia blocks sale of JF-17 with Russian Engines to Pakistan

Their alternative is their own home-grown engines, currently under development. But the news is false anyways.