Rundi Mela

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*Originally posted by CurruptAngel: *
I'm saying we should stop this business rather than accept anything that will promote it.And I don't think any of people like Lajawab would marry them...For the exact same reason I think prostitution should be stopped. Ofcourse, we can't really help those women who are already in this market but we can sure help those who have not been sold in this market yet.
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isnt it all about demand and supply?

as long as those Nawabs, Kings and Mullahs (as someone pointed out) are out there, you can't possibly expect it to 'go away'. Like Funguy said, get rid of the 'evil doers' first, stop the corruption etc, this li'l problem will be fixed too automatically. Till then, let's try to give them a better life (like better education, health and economic incentives for rehabilitation), no?

where in Lahore is this exactly? :hehe: j/j

Whats with shoveling and BS in this thread?

Lajo, you are so fking uptight, you care about the safety of these women or just want to re-inforce how us men are superior?

You like the sound of your own voice when it's up your ass? Heres a news flash, we don't.

These women deserve your pity and help and argue as you will, but some circumstances transdesend the normal rules and regulations of moralistic behaviour and religious practising.

There is a reason Islam is not institutionalised.

Reguarding this "mela" maybe once these women enpower themselves by celebrating they will finally gain the courage to leave these places and make lives for themselves as they please.

In short, its society that made them, and then we have the audasicty to condem them? It pretty much sums the fked up mentality of man.

Re: Rundi Mela

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*Originally posted by Lajawab: *
Pakistan, Lahore - AP
Every major singer and actress has come from us and some have even gone abroad to brighten the name of their country.
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INTERESTING....this is pretty sick if it's true, and i can't believe that pakistan won't outlaw this, I personally think that Indian movies and american too, have done more damage to pakistan than ne nuclear bomb they could have thrown at us. It's not just pakistan, today all the muslim countries r a disgrace to the name of Islam, and Im ashamed to say this, but i have to be honest, I'm no different. I will never let my kids watch indian movies inshallah, I watched them , i didn't get too afftected, did get affected from american movies however, adn i am not willg to take that risk with my children. once u start watching, it's hard to stop them, and unfair to even ask for them to stop watching tv. Thats why cut it off in the beginning, don't let them get a taste of it. it's like the snake in jungle book, once u look it into it's eyes, tv will just suck u in, and it'll be almost impossible for u to get out of its trap. who knows tommorrow my children could come back to my face and say " why did u let me watch tv, and do this gunnah, now i can't stop! u should've stopped us, ur responsible." and i would have nothing to say back to them for this.

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*Originally posted by I'M THE BEST: *

INTERESTING....this is pretty sick if it's true, and i can't believe that pakistan won't outlaw this, I personally think that Indian movies and american too, have done more damage to pakistan than ne nuclear bomb they could have thrown at us. It's not just pakistan, today all the muslim countries r a disgrace to the name of Islam, and Im ashamed to say this, but i have to be honest, I'm no different. I will never let my kids watch indian movies inshallah, I watched them , i didn't get too afftected, did get affected from american movies however, adn i am not willg to take that risk with my children. once u start watching, it's hard to stop them, and unfair to even ask for them to stop watching tv. Thats why cut it off in the beginning, don't let them get a taste of it. it's like the snake in jungle book, once u look it into it's eyes, tv will just suck u in, and it'll be almost impossible for u to get out of its trap. who knows tommorrow my children could come back to my face and say " why did u let me watch tv, and do this gunnah, now i can't stop! u should've stopped us, ur responsible." and i would have nothing to say back to them for this.
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It is true and it is sick. However I will let my kids watch these movies , but first educate them with Islam. They will themselves reject it, and that will be lasting and most effective, instead of enforcing it on them.

As always, I had to sift through a lot of garbage to actually seek out the the valid replies…The valid replies were all by those that had an opinion on what I wrote and not on me…The subject here is not me, it is what I wrote…Many people, as always, not having the proper knowledge or way of putting up an argument resorted to calling me names and inulting me personally…I hold them no grudge…They did the only thing what they knew how to do…Insult someone because there was little else they could do…

Guys, if you don’t have an opinion about something, there is nothing wrong with it…I don’t have opinions about many things so I stay away from those things. It doesn’t mean I insult someone because he has one…If you didn’t like what I wrote, tell me in a way that I can understand your point of view…Explain to me your point of view as if you are explaining something to a 7 year old kid…Would you insult a 7 year old kid if he said something you didn’t like?..Disrespecting me only reasserts the fact that you have nothing to say but are saying for the heck of it, which is ignorance…

As for those who did reply to my post as opposed to me, I welcomed your responses, because it is truly you people who make a discussion board what it really is…


Even during the times of Jahiliyya when the people were practicing a barbaric and animalistic culture, part of their culture was that they buried their daughters, and there was a reason they did that…According to them, a daughter has to married off respectably and nobly according to their tribal and ritualistic customs…

Failure to do so would entail the girl remaining a spinster, and blackening the tribal or family name…The Arabs back then despite being as animalistic as they were, had this much sense of dignity and honour that they were willing to murder their own child for it…

In India during the times when the partition was going on, Muslim women of entire villages killed themselves to preserve their honour…It was acceptable for them to die rather than be violated by strange men, so high was their ideal of nobility…They preferred death before dishonour…And these are women we are talking about whose lofty ideals were far beyond the fear of death…Death encroaches on everybody, but these ladies chose death rather than face a life of infamy…

So when someone says that there is nothing wrong with the profession of prostitution and it’s as respectable as, say, being a seamstress or a cook, it really amazes me…

So if I were to ask those people that if their daughter or sister comes up to them and says, that can she be a prostitute, what will be their response? “Oh, it’s OK darling, just be home before dinner and make sure you use a condom…”

Will these same people who say that prostitution is a profession like any other be willing to accept it as a profession like any other were their mothers involved in it?

The problems with Muslims nowadays, and specially Pakis, is that they fear calling a spade a spade…For them, it has become easier to be assimilated into a culture or way of living rather than renouncing it as not part of them…

Part of being wise is recognising the wrong as wrong and the right as right…True, it is very difficult and hard to do at times, but the more a person is able to do that the more wise he becomes…Unless you have the conviction and understanding to recognize something whether right or wrong and call it as such, how can anyone sift the correct from the incorrect?

And what is correct? Correct is faith, and our faith is correct. Our faith is the balance, the fulcrum upon which we must base our lives, and the better we become at this balancing act, the more powerful and stronger we become…Until we learn to weigh and balance our actions, deeds and works upon this criteria we call faith, all our endeavours will be in vain, not only on earth but in the hereafter as well…

Basant, for whatever reason it may be celebrated, is neither part of my creed nor my culture…I weighed it in my balance based on whatever I have read and seen, and I found it to be a very useless, in fact destructive event…Not only religiously by ethically as well and I spoke out against it as all Muslims must and should if they find anything wrong with something…Too bad that most of the things we want to talk about now are wrong to begin with…

My wish is that this lame event be forever scrubbed from the already darkened and ridiculously banal everyday ‘cultural’ things which have plagued our society since our ancestors became Muslims…Wherever our faith steps in, our faith must have the last say over every other thing that preceded it…It is our duty as Muslims to see to that…That thing can be culture, family or tribal oriented, but it must be purged to make way for our faith…Islam demands it…

It demanded of me that what my family practiced for generations like going to mazaars and fatihas and this and that…I gave it all up…My family, specially my mother’s side has had a few ‘auliyas’ in it…Yet their practice and methods mean nothing to me now…

Remember, if you sacrifice something for the sake of Allah :swt:, He shall replace it with something of a much better consistency and quality…If today Pakistan wakes up and drops these frivolous and nonsensical ‘cultural’ things which divide us, we would be better off…

This was meant to be a satire and was meant to be read as one…If you don’t agree with somethings I wrote, you are more than welcome to refute it with your own opinions and I would love to read them…However if your intention is to become pissed and personal, I suggest you haul your butt and save me a lot of time by not having to sift through your inane, childish and idiotic insults…

Don’t be upset with what I wrote…It’s not as if I insulted your faith or anything…But judging from some of the replies I got, some you wouldn’t have cared if I had…

Too bad…If you cared for your faith as your cared for your culture, we would be a very united and powerful nation…

Dont act like a little angel Maulana Lajawab, you were equally as insulting as the ones insulting you, dont deny that. Lets say aap ke andar ka janwar jag gya tha, so much for your little peace talks.

And please dont say you insulted or hurt anyones faith, you keep terming other Muslims as being Kafirs after you run out of an answer, so spare us all that Mr. Nobley Guy crap plz. Werent you mocking Hinduism in another thread too?

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*Originally posted by Anwaar Qureshi: *
Lajjo, you should not have invoked the emotions of people by posting this here.
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Hey u cyber mullah ...why are u reading this rundi thread...........

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*Originally posted by Spock: *
Dont act like a little angel Maulana Lajawab, you were equally as insulting as the ones insulting you, dont deny that. Lets say aap ke andar ka janwar jag gya tha, so much for your little peace talks.

And please dont say you insulted or hurt anyones faith, you keep terming other Muslims as being Kafirs after you run out of an answer, so spare us all that Mr. Nobley Guy crap plz. Werent you mocking Hinduism in another thread too?
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Do you ever think positively? I guess not! At least appreciate a person's knowledge and vision! No body is perfect, neither you nor me. When someone says something right, appreciate it. I have a suggestion for you, think of me as a mullah or whatever - if you dot pray/namaz five times, better start praying and read it with concentration and ask Allah for guidance. I will do that too. As a Muslim this is the best advise I can give you.

I don't mind what you say to me. I said it for Allah so I will take nothing personally.

JazakAllah brother. May Allah make you stronger and make others understand.

Lajjo, consider yourself lucky.

I was worried that the self- righteous neighbors of ours will come barging in here and also in feedback forum, complaining about your thread not being “Family Oriented” and as they only believe in family oriented gupshup; they might demand that you be banned. But it seems they were quiet amused by your explicit details! Good job!

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*Originally posted by ahmadjee: *
Lajjo, consider yourself lucky.

I was worried that the self- righteous neighbors of ours will come barging in here and also in feedback forum, complaining about your thread not being “Family Oriented” and as they only believe in family oriented gupshup; they might demand that you be banned. But it seems they were quiet amused by your explicit details! Good job!
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Yeah, entertaining... And Mr. Islamabad, let lajawab speak for himself. And same applies to you, dont pretend to be so Islamic, werent you making death threats, and you indulged in name calling. And no, I dont appreciate Lajawabs knowledge of 'randis', and you saying jazakallah to his knowledge. This story that he made up, applies to the politicians and crooks of Lahore (including some mollahs), and does not apply to the general public. So Lajawab can make as many threads on this subject without them making any sense, maybe its a way to end his frustration of being rejected by females.

Its about time this stupid thread be locked.

Anwaar, absolutely not...I know what Ahmedjee is referring to, but one must first realize the difference between objective observation and blatant vulgarity...

In simpler terms, there is a difference between how a doctor comments about a patient's rear end and how a luchcha mawaali would refer to it...

The doctor is an objective observer while the luchcha mawaali is blatantly vulgar...

As a mod I think Ahmedjee knows that...He was just kidding when he said that...Ahmedjee is one of the more literate mods on this board and I don't expect him not to know the difference...

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Originally posted by Lajawab: *
As always, I had to sift through a lot of garbage to actually seek out the the valid replies...
The valid replies were all by those that had an opinion on what I wrote and not on me...The subject here is not me, it is what I wrote...*Many people, as always, not having the proper knowledge or way of putting up an argument resorted to calling me names and inulting me personally...I hold them no grudge...They did the only thing what they knew how to do...Insult someone because there was little else they could do...

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Lajjo bahi its a sad thing to see that so many hypocrite people here try to grab your neck and curse the living hell out of you just because the hate you. All these people who responded, they responded to your name, not because they agree/disagree with what you have wrote but to disagree with LAJAWAB. I think its a pitty. Anyways, I always admire your posts even if people say that they are garbage, I always have something to learn out of them. Thanx

-Salman

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Lajjo bahi its a sad thing to see that so many hypocrite people here try to grab your neck and curse the living hell out of you just because the hate you. All these people who responded, they responded to your name because they do not agree or disagree with what you have wrote but to disagree with LAJAWAB. I think its a pitty. Anyways, I always admire your posts even if they are garbage, I always have something to learn out of them. Thanx

-Salman
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Gee, thanks Salman...:-|

aah, forget it...

Seriously you lot :o

Lifes too short and precious to spend scrapping it out on the net…learn to tolerate each others opinions :sheesh:

n hir i tawd diz traed vuz bout da "basant banner". :D

its too bad that a heer mahdi exists in the first place.:frowning: and waht culture is the prostitute endorsing? what did they contribute to pakistan? next to destroying families and morales? and if the kings use to send their kids to them to learn manners, it was their lack of common sense. How can they teach manners to lil kids, when they themselves lack modesty?
manners isnt about polite words but how one carries himself…what? the kings wanted their princes/cess to carry the prostitute style?
:konfused: and again, if someone will explain what culture is this lady boasting about?

Oh look Lajjo! They are all here patting your back! Now this trick of the trade you have got to teach me. Maybe I can earn some valuable brownie points with them.