Role of Opposition

Daily a dozen of thread are opened by newly appointed moderators and others against PPP government, foregtting that there is also a strong opposition in the parliament. If government did/does not perform what is the role of opposition? Instead of making things work for the benefit of people, opposition is mostly engaged in personal fights. Every one knows that IK is stupid, but then PML(N), JI and other are no good either. For proper running of the country opposition has to play a positive role, should keep the lives of incumbents in government difficult to get things done. Here I agree with CJ regarding non existent or ineffective opposition.

Opposition should have resisted contempt law: SC | DAWN.COM

**ISLAMABAD: Dropping a hint that the controversial contempt of court act would not be struck down in toto, the Supreme Court observed on Wednesday that the opposition should have resisted the passage of the law in the parliament instead of walking out of the house. The opposition should have stayed in the parliament to resist the ruling party’s move, said Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry who heads a five-judge bench hearing 27 identical petitions challenging the Contempt of Court Act, 2012.

“Have you ever heard of a walkout from the US Congress; what kind of conduct is this,” Justice Tasaddaq Hussain Jilani remarked.

Justice Khilji Arif Hussain described walkouts as an injustice with the electorate.

Abdul Shakoor Piracha, the counsel for the federation, was asked to produce the record of parliament’s relevant proceedings and it was done during the hearing.

The chief justice said the record had been summoned to see the time consumed in debate.

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I agree that the opposition has not played its role, and it should also be held accountable for the grave situation of the country. They should have created awareness amongst the people, but they didnt. Not that I believe that it would have made any difference to the government.

Anyways, the opposition should have a shadow government and provided alternate policies to educate people as to how they will address the issues if they get the government.

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Finally :slight_smile:

By the way, someone please tell me how an opposition should protest/block/stop government from law-making when the government has more than enough votes for legislation?

We should perhaps lay the blame on the parties that are part of the coalition and actually helped the government to go ahead with the legislation. Had Q-League, MQM and ANP not stood with the government, this law would have never come into being at the first place. Am I wrong?

The first responsibility lies with the government not to initiate any such law-making process and second most important factor — in our case — is the cooperation of its allies.

We all know that opposition can easily be outnumbered at any forum. So how does the ball go to their court? :hmmm:

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^I know, dair aayad darust aayad. ;)

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This is what I said earlier:

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I repeat myself, government allies are the biggest culprit for allowing such a legislation to pass through both the Houses. Opposition did not shy away from its responsibilities.

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Opposition did all this that Nisar is mentioning (shoor sharaba, hangama etc) when it suited them so Chaudhry sahab dont try to be Farishta.

Can not oppose anything just because you have 90 seats is lame excuse.

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They did oppose. And that’s all they could have done.

I wonder no one is saying a word about those allies who helped the government pass the legislation…:hmmm:

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During most important junctures during the past four and a half years, the Sharif Brothers were abroad. Same was the case during the past few days, they have understanding with the government on these Laws. Even the opposition is scared of an active judiciary.

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Partymen caution Nawaz against blindly supporting judiciary – The Express Tribune

**ISLAMABAD: ****Leaders of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) have begun to advise party chief Nawaz Sharif against blind support for judicial activism.
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The main opposition party has sided with the higher judiciary in the standoff between the government and the apex court, which has begun to reach a crucial point once again – however, recent developments have led to a reconsideration among the PML-N’s hierarchy.

PML-N insiders told The Express Tribune that several central party leaders had cautioned Nawaz to be calculated in his backing for the judiciary, warning of a slippery slope. “A significant number of people in the party feel the judiciary in its decisions recently, and [Chief Justice] Iftikhar Chaudhry in his statements, have crossed certain red lines. This is not a good omen for the democratic system,” said an official.

Many top leaders have questioned the rationality behind supporting a decision to send an elected prime minister home and possibly overrule laws enacted by parliament. According to insiders, Khawaja Saad Rafiq, Ayaz Amir, Tehmina Daultana, Ahsan Iqbal and many others are among those who want Nawaz to take a calculated approach. Officials said even Leader of the Opposition Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan was “not positive” about recent statements by Justice Chaudhry that the Constitution and not parliament, was supreme.

Sources said Nawaz heard these concerns from party associates at a meeting he chaired immediately after Yousaf Raza Gilani was removed from office by the apex court. “There is a limit to everything, whether good or bad … if all this continues in the same way, I tell you nobody will be able to rule Pakistan. What if we come to power tomorrow and this happens to us?” a top leader told Nawaz and his colleagues.

Though Sharif did not give any final word on his party members’ concerns, a slight change in the PML-N’s vocal support for the judiciary has been evident since that meeting. Some leaders have openly said that limits for institutions should be defined.

Insiders said this new chain of thought was instrumental in bringing the PPP and PML-N close enough to agree on Justice (retd) Fakhruddin G Ebrahim as the new Chief Election Commissioner (CEC).

And, more importantly, they added, both the government and the opposition are beginning talks to bring in a caretaker setup for holding fresh parliamentary polls – because they believe if they don’t decide now, somebody else will, as a PPP leader stated.

While Nawaz remains undecided, Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and some of his associates disagree with these emerging concerns. They believe the party benefited hugely from supporting Chief Justice Chaudhry ahead of the 2008 general elections – and that they can bet on the same for the upcoming polls.

The more cautious camp is of the opinion that, while backing the apex court might give the party a comparative advantage in central Punjab, it would not gain the same in the rest of the country.

The chief justice’s controversial questioning of parliament’s supremacy came in the backdrop of the Contempt of Court Act, a new law which protects holders of high public offices from contempt charges. Legal experts suggest the Supreme Court may declare it contradictory to the Constitution.

The court has already accepted for hearing petitions challenging the law which could save Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf from a possible disqualification.

Published in The Express Tribune, July 15[SUP]th[/SUP], 2012.

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There is a reason why we call them "friendly opposition", there is no difference in PML-N and PPP. Was it PML-N in government today we would see similar corruption, loot khasoot, fight with Courts with no solution to problems of the nation.

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When suffering from a lack of arguments, blame IK. Thats rich.

Imran Khan is not even a member of the assembly, and yet he has done more to mobilize public view on issues than anyone else. The PPP government does not even fall in the category of a government, as they have nothing to show for it. One failed PM followed another. One dictatorial president rules the roost, and the country is in a mess. Imran Khan has mobilized the public opinion, and that is the most that could have been expected of him. He has taught the public not to vote for the same idiots again and again.

Whats shameful is that PPP had a 'mandate', with a fairly decent majority for 4 long years, with the support of MQM and PML-Q, and they could have worked wonders if they had wanted to. But instead, they decided to take the BB and ZAB eras a step further, by smashing all corruption records.

I disagree with the supreme court judges, not because they are wrong, but because they have chosen an issue that is personal to them in order to speak up. If they are truly concerned about the state of affairs in the parliament, they should have chastised the opposition at every walk out, not just this one.

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I think it is high time you should let go IK as deity or super hero. He is not. When he joined hands with N$ for Multan seat, where was his rant about tsunami and revolution? He can not fool all people for all the time. He has no direction, no vision and quite stupid in politics. He would be more dangerous than N$ or Zardari if he comes in to power.

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the role of the opposition is to make "shor-sharaabaa" and, when the need be, sleep in bed with the ruling party! :) mutually beneficial! :)

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they need to come out of this so called friendly opposition and these dharnas/rallies. should opt for real opposition, realize their responsibilty. they are good at blame games, but fail to play their part.

Like in repy to CJ statement. Mr Nisar says, CJ comments were inappropriate and he doesnt really understand the norms of Parliament.

Do you? Mr. Nisar?

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Imran is neither a deity, nor a super hero. PPP rules dont apply here. Imran is a human being who can make mistakes, and is dispensable. Politics is all about performance. He hasnt been in power yet, so a bit silly to judge him on something that he hasnt even been tasked to do.
You can assume that PPP has shown performance, but that assumption wont make PPP look better. PPP does not even have democracy internally, how the heck can they claim to be bearers of democracy at the national level? It is a wadera party filled with crooks, and our current opposition is in bed with them, which is why PPP has done almost 5 years.
There is a reason why Imran refuses to go into an alliance with any of the parties. They are all a mess.

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And how should opposition stop such legislation??? anyone any idea??? bombing the parliament, killing parliamentarians, or any other such act is not an option, so please, let an average joe like me know, how come an opposition can stop such legislation... Ali and Rangoli might be able give us their valuble inputs in that regards, present and ex-jiyalas no hope from them...

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What role has PMLN played as an effective opposition? For the past two years I am observing when ever there is some problem in the country Big brother (and at times smaller brother) are found relaxing abroad starting from Raymond Davis issue. During the past few days, we have seen a consensus CEC (although that is a good thing) but that is a part of the dealing between the two parties. Thats why PMLN has gone silent now, no noise at all on any burning issue. Strangely even Ch. Nisar is quiet now.

Pakistan Time - Fariha Idrees Exposing Hidden Deal Between PMLn and PPP

As far as boycotting the national assembly proceedings is concerned, congratulations they boycotted today too while Rahman Malik was taking oath.

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see again missing the question… let me repeat, how should opposition tackle such law making???

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You are right. So long as legislation can be passed with a simple majority, any such coalition will continue to have the right to pass any law they need. The opposition could have done nothing to stop the law from passing. Plus, the fact that the government passed the law in record time was itself meant to prevent any meaningful debate on the law.

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If you remember during Zia's non party government headed by Mohammad Khan Jonejo, with almost 90% mendate there was opposition in that parliament too. Only one person opposing Zia's action had created hell for the Zia's government. Ziaul Haq sent his troops to fight in Khana Kaaba to clear extremists who occupied Kaaba and refused to come out. Pakistan army used guns in the sacred sanctity and killed a number of extremists. This was debated in the then parliament that how the guns were used by army in sacred sanctity where fighting wars were banned during Prophet Mohammad's time. No one in the government had guts to respond it.

Keeping in view the numbers, PML(N) could have played a very active role in the parliament particularly on key issues which affect the average people of Pakistan such as target killings, Railway problem, hiding of OBL and killing in the midst of strong army garrison, suicide killings, TTP, water and electricity problem, (I hate when SS behaved like mazdoor union agitating against PPP, knowing that he was equally responsible for the shortage) friendly relations with India, future relations with America, role of army in politics, Baluchistan problem etc. They have dick contribution on national issues, wasted their time and energy on personal feud with Zardari and co. This will definitely benefit IK in the coming elections. PML(N) may lose more seats Punjab.