Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
*Then please provide links to your rich sources. *
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
I can't do anything to salvage you out of the complexes you are intertwined with.
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Check with Scandinavians...many of them believe that their ancestors came from India....much before biblical times and hence before advent of Islam. Odin, Thor...these are Hindu Gods portrayed in Viking language. *
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Names of the days of week in Scandinavia is exactly the same as was defined in Sanatan Dharma scriptures. Please bring evidence to refute it.
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
Check with Scandinavians...many of them believe that their ancestors came from India....
I can guarantee you 100% that Scandanavians would deny being ancestrally Indian till they're blue in the face. Still, I got to note this one down, Indians thinking they're Scandinavians :D
The rest of you post is gibberish. i'm not wasting time refuting it.
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The rest of you post is gibberish. i'm not wasting time refuting it.
It has been taught in their history books for many years. Indians don't think they are not Scandinavians. *
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We rightly believe that influence of Ancient India was in far flung places...Western side.....Americas....Eastern side...much beyond Easter Islands. *
*Hore puchcho :D
*When you read history through tinted glasses of religion you will have difficulty in accepting the truth and reality. Buddy show me evidence to prove your claims. In this forum I am asking only for literary evidence. I know you can't attach archealogical evidence.:D *
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
for what reasons you have been interested in Vedas???.
Let's pray ego can never get a permanent place in our minds... just I will stress one last time..."NEVER READ VEDAS WITH AN INTENTION TO COLLECT MATERIALISTIC INFORMATIONS" for you will get none! and if one thinks he did get, then for sure he is pleasing his own senses under infatuation of "ego of knowledge" or feeling of "ekoham dvitiyo nasti" ! ---says enlightened Yogi Swami Yukteswara after he realised the "Self" and attained the highest level called "Atmagyan".
Vedic Richas (verses) are not just ordinary lines like any other books of ancient times...though they appear to you like ordinary if you are reading it for the first time with only purpose to know the "translated" meaning.
Now coming back to your question regarding "rivers"...if you wish, you can refer one of my previous mentioned posts...particularly your concept of Rivers is already answered (I have highlighted in bold here)
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,which says something meaningful by giving examples which were existing in "materialistic manifestations
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We have to understand the meaning of the term "materialistic manifestations" which are in the form of rivers, trees all other animates and in-animates, which existed before and continues to exist today including Human.
Once this concept becomes clear to you, you will no more concentrate yourself only on the river but strive for the much greater realization of each Richas of Vedas.
In fact at least 10 pages can be written on each Richa(verse) of Vedas! by anyone who has little understanding of Sanskrit!
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
Matrubhumi,
Vedic texts are much beyond the interpretation of majority of mortals.
Literary meanings or verbatim-et-literatim translations carried out by Western scholars have created a skewed understanding of these texts.
For instance, Hinduism is religion of more than million gods and people have been tripping over each other to believe it for centuries!!.
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
1. WHAT DOES HINDUISM STAND FOR?
Hinduism is, basically, the modern name for the Vedic way of life, especially the spiritual path usually associated with India. Previously, those who followed the Vedic system were also called Aryans. It is often considered that the Vedic Aryans were a race of people. However, Aryan actually means a standard of living, an ideal. It was the Sanskrit speaking people of thousands of years ago that gave the word arya to signify a gentleman, an ideal person, someone on the path of purity. It was a term meant for those who were on the cutting edge of social evolution. Another way of interpreting the word aryan is that ar also means white or clear. Ya refers to God. Ya also refers to Yadu, or Krishna. Thus, aryan means those who have, or are developing, a clear path or a clear consciousness toward God…
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Source : Why Be A Hindu-The Book
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Above is the viewpoint of a Westerner about Vedism, Hinduism and Arya.
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Aryan Invasion theory propagated by many Western historians is completely wrong.
Arya means a person with noble conduct. Nothing to do with the colour of skin or colour of eyes.!!!
Its opposite is Anarya..i.e. a crook.
The term ‘Anarya’ is repeatedly used in Ramayana to address Kaikeyi and all other crooks who were intrumental in sending Lord Ram to vanvaas.
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
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Show me one other version of the Rig Veda that translates the Hymn of "the Rivers" so as to change the meaning.
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the 10th mandal and 75th sukta of RiGVeda definately narrates about River
But again as I said previously, here one should understand that these are the specific qualities or materialistic properties of each river is mentioned by the divine Rishi...
I too have read Vedas under the able guidance of Acharyas...but due to lack of correct English words, I can't produce you the exact English meanings...However if you can understand a pure Hindi/Sanskrit originated words..I will give you the meaning below...
RigVed Richa: Mandal 10, Sukta 75 and Richa 1
" pra su va aapo mahimanmuttam, karurvochati sadaney vivaswatah,
pra sapta sapta tredha hee chakramuh, prasrtvareenamati sindhu rojasa"
Hindi meaning through Sanskrit :
(aapah+Va) inn jalo ki (uttamam) uttam (mahimanam) mahima ko (kaaruh) ritvig (vivaswatah) yagyaman ke (sadaney) griha mein arthat yagyasaala mein (pra su Vochati) boltey hain, yeh nadiya (sapta sapta) saat saat hokar (tregha) teeno loko mein/teen prakar se (prachakramuh) bahati hain.
(prasrivatvareena) inkey beech mein bahaney waali *(sindhu) ati syandan bahaav waali nadi *(ojasa) apaney vegbal se (ati) doosre ko atikraman kerkey (pra) bahati hai....
regarding above highlighted word Sindhu
the word Sindhu ---is from the word "Syandan"..which itself means a fast(teevra) flow..therefore the name of the river itself suggests How it's flow is!
But then what is your concern??, these are purely materialstic properties of these Rivers.
Lastly, if you have still some doubts, please stop reading Vadas from Grifith and Max Muller's English...you have to have learn either Sanskrit or at least Sanskrit originated Hindi words to know it's ""core"" meaning!
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
yess dear..this is what I have been trying to say..in fact Vedas are also called as "ajanma" or "unborn"...Vedic Richas are realized only under deep meditation or Bhakti...reading translation according me, is just fulfilling the hunger of information!!!
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
And we expect to 'internalise' all of them in todays fast paced life. Art of discernment takes time to learn...and discerning all vedic texts in one life span ?..no way. *
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Probably that was the reason ancient yogis stated "Jeevaim shardah shatam".
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
Oh God, just close it. I'm not interested in these spammers who cant deal with the thread topic.
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
To decide what is true or false is upto our senses!
Hari Om Tat Sat!!
Re: roadrunner:kindly differentiate vedism and hinduism
Now there's hundred of other differences I could mention between Vedic society. Examples are the cow was not worshipped, the Vedic/Pakistani people ate beef, did not have a caste system, many other things, which I'll keep adding to as time permits. But you can get started with these.
all rivers in hindusim are sacred and why ganga is more scared becasue it came from head of shiva