Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
Yea, that is overall result, not result from this polling station only. There are many polling stations in one constituency. Overall MQM won the constituency, but lost on this polling station. On TV, the discussion was regarding result from this particular polling station. Most of MQM vote came from Lines area that is part of this constituency and this polling station is not from Lines area.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
Yea, that is overall result, not result from this polling station only. There are many polling stations in one constituency. Overall MQM won the constituency, but lost on this polling station. On TV, the discussion was regarding result from this particular polling station. Most of MQM vote came from Lines area that is part of this constituency and this polling station is not from Lines area.
How do you know which polling station this is? It doesn't says in the clip that this is so n so polling station. Did they show this video on TV?
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
How do you know which polling station this is? It doesn't says in the clip that this is so n so polling station. Did they show this video on TV?
I know because on TV they discussed this polling station.
Anyhow, can't you see in video that camera was making video of what was happening very closely? Obviously whoever was putting thump impression knew that video is getting made and obviously she also trusted the person taking video.
Even if one did not knew that PPP got 800 plus vote from that polling station and MQM got less than 150 votes, does it take lot of intelligence after seeing those video that all what was happening was in collaboration with each other? So, if all was happening with collaboration of each other than think who should have that video and who such video would be used to malign? Is it rocket science? I think that even a dumb person could tell that whichever party (PPP) that used such video to malign other party (MQM) knew that they (PPP) would lose, and actually it was they who was rigging the voting and was real culprits.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
^ may be PPP person pretended to be an MQM activist (polling agent doesn't necessarily know every MQM worker) and hence allowed him/her there, video making is not necessarily "obvious" to the polling agent, someone could pretend holding a phone casually.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
I know because on TV they discussed this polling station.
Anyhow, can't you see in video that camera was making video of what was happening very closely? Obviously whoever was putting thump impression knew that video is getting made and obviously she also trusted the person taking video.
Even if one did not knew that PPP got 800 plus vote from that polling station and MQM got less than 150 votes, does it take lot of intelligence after seeing those video that all what was happening was in collaboration with each other? So, if all was happening with collaboration of each other than think who should have that video and who such video would be used to malign? Is it rocket science? I think that even a dumb person could tell that whichever party (PPP) that used such video to malign other party (MQM) knew that they (PPP) would lose, and actually it was they who was rigging the voting and was real culprits.
What prove do you have that pppp won from that polling station. There is no mention of which polling station it is.
It is just sad and pathetic that you will go to extremes to defend this party of thugs and criminals.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
And how we can say the polling station is in NA-250? It could be elsewhere in the city? It could be from my NA where they took some 180,000 votes as against the PPP's candidate of some 6,000.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
What prove do you have that pppp won from that polling station. There is no mention of which polling station it is. It is just sad and pathetic that you will go to extremes to defend this party of thugs and criminals.
Because on TV Dr. Mirza Akhtiyar Baig was present as well as MQM representative and it was mentioned on the program that PPP got around 800 votes and MQM got around 140 votes from that polling station. To know what polling station was shown may not be obvious for you and me, but those who were contesting, it was not that unobivous.
So, don't blame me blame yourself that it is pathetic and sad how extreme you want to go to malign and accuse a political party that you do not like.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
Because on TV Dr. Mirza Akhtiyar Baig was present as well as MQM representative and it was mentioned on the program that PPP got around 800 votes and MQM got around 140 votes from that polling station. To know what polling station was shown may not be obvious for you and me, but those who were contesting, it was not that unobivous.
So, don't blame me blame yourself that it is pathetic and sad how extreme you want to go to malign and accuse a political party that you do not like.
Did they show this polling station? NO!!!! So blame yourself not me....
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
^ may be PPP person pretended to be an MQM activist (polling agent doesn't necessarily know every MQM worker) and hence allowed him/her there, video making is not necessarily "obvious" to the polling agent, someone could pretend holding a phone casually.
You think that polling agents are so dumb that they would not know who is political worker of their party? Do you think that unknown political worker could get into polling station and polling agents of their party without trusting that political worker and without knowing about the identity of that political worker with certainty, would rig the election in front of that unknown and uncertain political worker?
Actually, if polling agent would rig election than he/she would only do that if that polling agent would be 100 percent sure of the identity of the political worker and know that political worker and all around the place personally, with certainty.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
And how we can say the polling station is in NA-250? It could be elsewhere in the city? It could be from my NA where they took some 180,000 votes as against the PPP's candidate of some 6,000.
First of all, how can you say that whose vote polling agent was casting? Can you see that from the video? Video did not even show where that polling station was, is it? Why you think that the polling station shown was in Karachi? Why not in Lahore or Larkana? Or why it was really polling station and not some other place, nothing to do with polling station or whatever?
Did they show this polling station? NO!!!! So blame yourself not me....
Have you seen that program on TV (It was on ARY with PJ Mir as presenter)? If you did not see the program, than why are you arguing?
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
Yes, I have. And I am talking about this polling station. Don't divert the argument. If you can't accept what is happening here then stay quiet or yip yap where people will blindly take your words.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
Lusi, the elections were as transparent as it can get. Please dont spread rumors.
Also, you tube is not a credible source of information, dont let it mess with your head:)
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
^^ yup what they showed in those 3 clips is rumor. :)
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
Yes, I have. And I am talking about this polling station. Don't divert the argument. If you can't accept what is happening here then stay quiet or yip yap where people will blindly take your words.
If you had, you would have got ashamed of lies. In that program MQM claimed that the polling station that Akhtiyar Baig was talking with claims of rigging, and video of that polling station that PPP is distributing all over the place, that polling station is investigated and in that polling station Akhtiyar Baig got over 800 votes and MQM got below 150 votes, so it is obvious that who was rigging. MQM spokesman also told Akhtiyar Baig and panel that to get it checked with election commission as with reference to the video and PPP claim, election commission has already investigated the case ... but in response Akhtiyar Baig started saying that at 1-30 he was told that he is winning, so MQM spokesman asked him that how he knew at 1-30 that he was winning, as polling was going on at that time? Akhtiyar Baig with his embarrassed face did not had any answer.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
Let ask all to put themselves in the shoe of the polling agent that did the rigging. Suppose you were polling agent and wanted to do rigging. Now look at the video and it would be obvious that the person making video is next to polling agent and it is impossible that polling agent would not know the person making video.
Now ask yourself that as polling agent, would you rig in front of any unknown person and in front of polling agent of opponent party? Would you rig without knowing the person next to you 100 percent and without having confidence on that person? In such situation, do you think that you would not know who would have the video, your party member of member of opponent party?
Ask yourself question, think yourself, and I am sure that anyone that have little bit of intelligence would know that the video can only come out from the party that did the rigging. Rather, it is obvious that purpose of video was to malign opponent party from start, else no one would make video of rigging own party. So, it shows that PPP not only rigged the election in their favour, but they are party of corrupts that does propaganda, wrongfully accuse and malign opponent wrongly.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
And how we can say the polling station is in NA-250? It could be elsewhere in the city? It could be from my NA where they took some 180,000 votes as against the PPP's candidate of some 6,000.
Great now you have started believing in conspiracy theories...Whats next some AH cheer leading?
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
First of all, how can you say that whose vote polling agent was casting? Can you see that from the video? Video did not even show where that polling station was, is it? Why you think that the polling station shown was in Karachi? Why not in Lahore or Larkana? Or why it was really polling station and not some other place, nothing to do with polling station or whatever?
Have you seen that program on TV (It was on ARY with PJ Mir as presenter)? If you did not see the program, than why are you arguing?
Saleem please make an analysis on this video with some figures. I want to have some prove of you rejecting this video as a source showing MQM rigging the elections. Im not convinced yet.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
Great now you have started believing in conspiracy theories...Whats next some AH cheer leading?
You will not understand my posts!
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
You will not understand my posts!
Like this one:"Simply revenge!". It is pretty hard to understand.
Re: Rigging in election 2008 by mqm in NA250
After watching this video, it appeared that someone has used cell phone camara hiding in pocket or somewhere. But that 'someone' is Ghar Ka Bhedi'. Because it was impossible for others to make such movie. This indicates that all muhajirs are not supportes of mqm. AH the Don of London might have ordered his execution by now.:D