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So where is the evidence?
A definition for people who don't seem to understand it:
"the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid."
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We have had 5 days of protests. IK said he will show us all the evidence of massive rigging. Where is this evidence? Can some PTI supporter please show me or us where in the past 20 days, he has shown any evidence of rigging?
Or was he just like all politicians lying to gain power.
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Help yourself:
http://dunyanews.tv/white_paper_on_massive_rigging_in_election_2013.pdf
Make sure you actually* read *every single page.
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The thing with rigging is, it cannot be eliminated completely. The question we have to ask is, is this rigging sufficient to influence the outcome. It will be even harder to influence the outcome if all the political parties do it. It is like a kid that cheats in school tests. Maybe he will pass the grade, but he will never be the topper. ( and prolly not get far in life, either )
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Where is the evidence? The white paper makes allegations but does not substantial any of it with proof and by and large most of it is just complaining. For god sake they say the Media was against them, so was the ECP, so was the Judiciary. Talk about crying wolf.
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We have had 5 days of protests. IK said he will show us all the evidence of massive rigging. Where is this evidence? Can some PTI supporter please show me or us where in the past 20 days, he has shown any evidence of rigging?
Or was he just like all politicians lying to gain power.
You are not following the news you arent
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Where is the evidence? The white paper makes allegations but does not substantial any of it with proof and by and large most of it is just complaining. For god sake they say the Media was against them, so was the ECP, so was the Judiciary. Talk about crying wolf.
You probably haven't read the paper at all.
Pointless to argue.
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You know what provide a link - that is what I am asking for. Evidence that actually shows rigging. You guys mouth off but with no evidence. The white paper does not source 95% of its allegations. Regarding pre-polls rigging they complain that the media did not focus on the PTI. Seriously? That constitutes rigging?
IK stated that he would provide evidence during this azadi march. Where is it?
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evidences is not IK or PTI deals in, they only believe what they wish for!!!
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You know what provide a link - that is what I am asking for. Evidence that actually shows rigging. You guys mouth off but with no evidence. The white paper does not source 95% of its allegations. Regarding pre-polls rigging they complain that the media did not focus on the PTI. Seriously? That constitutes rigging?
IK stated that he would provide evidence during this azadi march. Where is it?
you must be very new at this, evidence always surface after the govt. leaves not during their reign. You must also be unfamiliar with Gullo butt than?
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evidences is not IK or PTI deals in, they only believe what they wish for!!!
I am not sure what you babbling about? There was not enough evidence to keep gullo butt in jail.
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you must be very new at this, evidence always surface after the govt. leaves not during their reign. You must also be unfamiliar with Gullo butt than?
Then why did he say he had it and he would announce it during the Azadi March. For the past 14 months they have said they have the evidence. Where is it?
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Free and Fair Election Network | FAFEN | Elections | Pakistan
This what FAFEN had to say.
Note at no where does the percentage of election rigging go over 10%.
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This thread goes down the drain
IK has given the proof in his speech
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What happened to petitions that IK filed in court against rigging? Are they still ongoing or dismissed? He did goto court against rigging, didnt he?
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It has become so boring to listen to the same guy leveling the same allegations without proof in abusive language..
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Putting aside party preferences, one needs to put things in perspective with respect to electoral rigging. You have quoted FAFEN, and a few others on this forum have quoted EU observers as saying that the ‘elections were fair’. A realistic way of putting it is that according to FAFEN and EU observers, elections were relatively fair in the polling stations that they monitored.
Heres some info.
FAFEN
**FAFEN observed polling processes at a maximum of 38,274 polling stations and 31,337 polling booths spanning over 263 National Assembly constituencies as a part of its election day observations. The exercise yielded observations of a total 71,397 irregularities and violations in the day’s proceedings
**Now, there were more than 90,000 polling stations and almost 200,000 polling booths across the country. So FAFEN monitored around 15-20% of the total polling booths. Does that allow them to make an assessment about the complete election? Moreover, why would anyone conduct rigging in front of a FAFEN or EU observer? Rigging took place in places where observers werent present, and theres plenty of video evidence.
EU Observers
There were a total 140 EU observers for the whole country. Thats an even worse percentage than FAFEN. Doesnt even warrant a mention to be honest.
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It sure is.
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I am sure IK must have presented tons undeniable proves and what not about election rigging during his evening sermons!!! wonder why none of those proves have been posted on these forums????
These proves are the prime reason his followers are still there...
can anyone from IK's party share those proves ( presented by IK during this dharna) here!!!
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is tarah key baton ka jawab un kay pass kahan :cobra:
abhi ap key thukari honay wali hay :cb:
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