This guy, not a harvard graduate, never seen oxford or cambrigde, just a humble guy and have invented something change our life style for good, can bring inflation to single digit… how? he have invented some technology with which any car can do 40 KM on 1 liter of distil water… watch to believe
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Knowing all this and if it really works i fear for these guys' life
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He's a fraud. Heck, he can not even pronounce the word 'electrolysis' properly, which is the basis of his fraudulent claim.
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^ well he's made a tall claim no question and demonstrated (i can't judge how much truth in it) ..... but have u reasons to call it a fraud if yes please put forward
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Can there be a perpetual motion machine?
If yes then Engineer Agha Waqar is right.
If not then either he is conning the nation or he does not know what he is talking about.
I know that for a non-engineer this is not an enough answer but it is a start. Give me a minute to explain it in detail.
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well from what i understood (and i don't wanna mention my chemistry grade here ;-) ) it's a simple cumbustion thingie ..... so has nothing to do with perpetual motion
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Remember that water itself can not be used for combustion. The only way to run a car on water is to use the process of electrolysis. This process breaks H2O in H+ and OH- ions. Hydrogen gas thus produced is then fed into the combustion chamber of the engine. This way combustion takes place using H2 and car starts moving.
So the process of electrolysis is the basis of a car running on “water” (actually, it is running on hydrogen).
But this is nothing new. There are kits available online which anyone can buy and install in his car.
Here is a link: Hydrogen Generator Super Complete Hho Kit - Buy Hydrogen Generator Complete Kit Product on Alibaba.com
The guy might have bought one such kit and install it in his car. But the difference here is that all these kits only improve the fuel consumption by working alongside the conventional fuel (petrol/diesel).
But this guy is claiming that he will not need any conventional fuel at all and the car will run solely on electrolysis of water using a battery bought from* Sher Shah kabaarri bazar*.
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Well as said above my chemistry knowledge is quite limited and i agree with u about being skeptical but what about the thing i posted below ???
Water-fuelled car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Govt assures support for ‘water for fuel’ project Pakistan Business
Would be quite a thing if it really turns out to be a fraud as u claim Khoji …
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Well, it is not just MY claim. He appeared on Talat Hussain's program where Dr Atta ur Rahman was invited as well. And Dr Atta himself called his claims nonsense.
Water fueled cars exist. But none runs 100% on water. Many people have made such claims in the past but they were all found to be scams.
If water alone could be used as a fuel then America would not need to invade countries for the sake of oil and ME kingdoms would have no one to buy oil.
It would be a true revolution.
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Shobda bazon ki kami nahee Pakistan main.
If there is such a technology, it is far more easier to find investors for it than TV anchors. You could find a thousand investors willing to put in millions in this technology. If any technology reduces my fuel bill by 25%, it would be a fantastic investment, let alone using water as fuel.
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This guy is claiming that he will not need any conventional fuel at all and the car will run solely on electrolysis of water using a battery bought from* Sher Shah kabaarri bazar*.
It is possible run a car on water alone without any other fuel, but it will happen only for a few hours. After which the battery will need to be recharged.
This is what he claims. Power from battery is used to make hydrogen in the kit. This hydrogen goes in the engine and combustion happens. A belt attached to the engine turns a alternator and this alternator re-charges the battery. The cycle continues.
But according to the first law of thermodynamics, we won't get the same amount of energy back to battery as we generated from it. There would definitely be some losses. Thus the energy returning to the battery would be less. After each cycle the battery will discharge more and more ... and eventually it will stop working.
Now you need to charge the battery again from an external source.
THUS IT IS NOT A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE. We need to recharge the battery from external source for sure. And water itself is not enough to continue to run the car.
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There is another way to see why it is a hoax.
A car would need a huge amount of energy to run.** This energy can not be produced at all from the little battery he is using**.
The battery will make only small amount of hydrogen, and this won't be sufficient to actually run a car.
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Here is Talat’s program and Dr Atta’s comments on this “invention”.
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Thanx Khoji for clarification :)
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Something definitely fishy ... Dr Ata has some very valid observations...
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If the ability of the inventor is on his pronunciation, then only english people can invent and rest are disqualified
The guy made some tall claim, demonstrated it in the tv show!!! anyone having concerns should raise it with the same host on his facebook page, and that would bring the other side of the story, Syed Khurshid Shah put it right, that let the negative comments come in because together negative and positive is going to make the machine run...
So instead of out-rejecting it, give him a break... or may be just because he is not from Harvard his claims are taken as lie and fraud...
This guy has threaten a trillion dollar industry worldwide, if he is right and his invention is true, then the oil producing countries, the refineries, the resellers of oil products should count their days and because the guy is weak, the chances are, he will be killed or labelled as fraud, similar to what other inventor prior to him were labelled...
Dr. Atta and Dr Qadeer and many like them are respected but i do not worship them, they have their own field and they may be master of that, but i would take the guys claims and see the demonstration he have given and the logic he is talking about make sense... so i won't call him a fraud or won't call his project fishy....
Long back, people used to laugh on the concept that one day man can fly like a bird or a word can be spread in quarter of a second from one part of the globe to the other... now it is reality.... so instead of laughing at him, calling him fraud (do not know why one have to call him fraud, he is not asking you for chanda, or bhata or anything of that sort, he is asking for investments and no business men is going to invest unless he sees the thing by himself...) or his project fishy...
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If the ability of the inventor is on his pronunciation, then only english people can invent and rest are disqualified
"English speaking"? How many engineers are there who did their engineering using any language other than English? Please do let me know if there is any non-English engineering university in Pakistan. I am really not aware of any.
And if one did his engineering using English as the medium then he should not have difficulty pronouncing a very basic engineering term at all.
I gave the example of his pronunciation because in his interviews he has hardly given any indication that he knows how his own system is working.
While it is not ascertained, I read that he is not even an engineer, rather an associate engineer/diploma holder.
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It has nothing to do with Harvard, or the Pakistani pride. When he claims something then he is supposed to back up his claims by answering very basic questions. He couldn't do that.
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... may be just because he is not from Harvard his claims are taken as lie and fraud...
Had he been from Harvard with perfect pronunciation, wearing jeans and T-shirt, sporting a goatee and a buzz cut, his credibility would have been in a totally different sphere and Dr. Atta might have not been calling his invention a nonsense straightaway. A shalwar-kameez-clad locally-educated man with amateurish pronounciation in his patchy English is an ideal prey for suspicion. Having said that, Dr Atta is a man of credentials who cannot be set aside on educational, technical and scientific issues.
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He should add solar-panels to charge the battery(ies) 
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He is basically claiming to tremble the world of physics upside down as his method is way against the fundamentals of Physics .... and in most of his interviews I have not seen him soundly defending his theory or practical as he calls it .
If he can prove it , well then he should be getting a noble prize for it .
Until certified and proven by experts - till then to me it is nothing more then a fishy stunt ..
