Return of Hazrat Isa A.S.

[Mr.Popat]

Re: Return of Hazrat Isa A.S.

@psyah

Peace Mr. Popat

I disregard a lot of your post, because I do not think it to be relevant and it will dilute the main point I want to respond to if I start to entertain your methods of understanding without reference. Provide the references not your understanding.

Now … you made a statement about what I believe … You think I believe that there is no wahi - There are two things I believe:

a) No risalah - i.e. no new law bearing testimonies in the form of the Words of Allah (SWT)
**b) No new appointment by Allah (SWT) of a new person to prophethood. Nabuwa

**The bold point is what i was talking about when i showed u how the prophets are grouped according to Quran. If new prophet can’t come, then neither can the old one. My post above was addressing exactly that issue. It was all relevant to the topic in hand.

So when Isa (AS) comes back he will still have access to wahi in the form of signs and visions, and he will be inspired with understanding of Islam …** since he is a prophet of Allah (SWT) who is masoom he is on the natural way and thus he will walk and talk in conformance with Islam regardless of whether he knows it or not. **

He will not lead prayers for he (AS) will be a follower for a time anyway … The Qur’an is unCreated and pervades time and space … to limit your rationale about access to Qur’an being this world in a temporal containment of the past 1400 years shows that your belief of the nature of the Qur’an is deficient.

So, he will have access to wahi but will not be considered a prophet? or will he be a prophet? and no, im not goin into the argument of khatm e nabuwat.

Is there any reason why Gabriel wont come to him again? His prophethood cannot be taken away from him. I think in his second coming, he will need Gabriel to assist him more than ever.
I quit giving you references after references from Quran in the favour of death of Jesus (AS), but it seems like all you could do to defend that belief is to ask me to learn arabic.

I dont see anything wrong with me asking you questions about the belief you hold. That was why i asked you how Jesus will know Islam ? if its by wahi, then why can Jesus not have Gabriel come to him again?

Please read 'aqeedah At-Tahawiya in it you will find reference of nazul of Isa (AS) and the nature of the unCreated Qur’an. Then you question “how” Isa (AS) will be taught the Qur’an as if you are saying the Teacher is some human being … To reduce the Power of Allah (SWT) to do so in accordance with His Own Word …

Surah Alaq
4. Who has taught (the writing) by the pen [the first person to write was Prophet Idrees (Enoch)],
5. Has taught man that which he knew not.

Allah (SWT) teaches us through others by the pen as in verse 4 and Allah (SWT) teaches us though “inspiration” as in verse 5 …

The example of Isa (AS) is in similitude with Adam (AS) … Adam (AS) knew the names of all things and this was because Allah (SWT) Taught him before sending him to Earth … so you feel that when Allah (SWT) has Isa (AS) with Him that He will not do the same … or cannot do the same?

Trust me you are walking a dead end on this one … I’ve only just started … I can bring up so many problems with the question you have raised and then there is scientific reasoning why it is possible … if it is science that you believe in and not miraculous events.

All i’m saying is that if the teacher is not human, and indeed is Allah then just like how you’re accusing me of limiting Allah’s power, why do u also limit allah’s power of sending Gabriel to him? Gabriel was sent to him before? why not now ?

When you say the same Jesus, sent to bani israel will come bodily , do you not think that you’re indirectly saying that Jesus was unable to complete his mission which was assigned to him by Allah for bani israel ? Do you think Jesus (AS) was incapable of sending Allah’s message across, and hence needs to come back again, but this time as a muslim ? why would Christians believe in him ? To them, he’ll be a liar, as he gave them bible first and then tellin them after 2011 yrz that their belief is wrong, this is what they should be believing? Really?