Return of Hazrat Isa A.S.

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Re: Return of Hazrat Isa A.S.

@Mr.Popat

I’m sorry but I have no idea what you are saying here. What is there a need of arabic grammar here? and what is there a need of 15:31 here? You say theres no restriction of totality in the above verse from surah Yasin ?
Lets analyse the verse once more.
***If We grant long life to any, We cause him to be reversed in nature: Will they not then understand?

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If he grants long life to anyone , He cause him to be reversed in nature. Meaning, whoever reaches a certain age, say 70, 80 years of age, Allah reverse their condition. Reverse as in a condition of a child. In that verse, Allah says whoever he grants long life.. theres no mention of ‘except Isa AS’ or anything like that.

Isa(AS) has the power to come down from the heavens on the shoulders of angels. There has never been an instance where Allah literally sent down a prophet to earth on the shoulders of 2 angels. This whole belief is very absurd. Killing of dajjal is a totally different concept so i will not touch upon that.

I’m not going to talk about meraaj or Hazrat Idris(AS). Ok, so they both went to heavens and came back.. fair enough.. whats the matter with Jesus(AS)? He is in heavens alive with Moses, Yahya and other prophets whose spirits are in heaven but their bodies remained on earth.. and he saw Muhammad PBUH being born in front of Him, getting in His youth , getting revelations, and finally saw him dying. He was just up there watching it all ? When Prophet Muhammad PBUH was getting revelations from Allah, was Gabriel also going to Jesus (AS) and giving him the same revelations and teaching him Islam ? If He was not, then how will he ever know what Quran is ? how will He ever know Muhammadi shariya?
If and when he returns, will Gabriel come again with the same teachings that were given to Muhammad PBUH 1450 years ago ?

Yes, uniqueness in human traits does not qualify as diety, but Allah also says he does not go against his sunnah. If whatever has happened earlier in history and its written in Quran, then for sure it can happen again. Adam was born without father and mother, therefore Jesus was born in similar way, both written in Quran. But if you give a certain prophet or a person such high rank and give him the kind of tasks that has never been done before by anyone (without being a prophet ,as you say ) then sir, you are giving that person a rank next to God. I see no reason why people wont take him as God.

Note : im trying to stick to the topic as much as i can. Though, i do have many questions about what you said above.. i.e : topic of meraaj, when u said Muhammad PBUH qualified for going to heaven (bodily ).. then you said Adam was the first man on earth etc.. I had questions regarding that but i wont try derailing the topic in hand.

Peace Mr. Popat

Erm … We are talking about Arabic grammar here and the ayah in question does not restrict other possibilities … now how on Earth would you know what I’m talking about if you have not studied Arabic and you keep using the translation to assert that same point that I responded to?

You say because something has never been done before (i.e. prophet descend on shoulders of two angels) then it is absurd … why? Is it absurd because it has never been done before? Or because Allah (SWT) cannot do that or because it is a made up story? I can tell it is not made up … it is present in scriptures of Islam and Christians an event which is categorical - the second coming.

Then you ask me absurd questions like “how will he ever know Muhammadi shariah?” - Does it matter to me to rationalise the sequence of events … I could easily come up with 3 ways it is possible but will you accept them? No … you will say that it is speculation … however my point for speculating is not to show that it will happen that way … but to show that it is not impossible like you assert it to be.

Your reasoning about a person being given unique gifts that have never before been given to anyone is like deification is such a false accusation and a position that neither you nor kchughtai have thought through … nor the person who wrote those responses for you …
Reason being at the time of Adam (AS) he was unique, no other like him yet he was not accused of being like God … It is feeble mindedness to make such a claim … Allah (SWT) is not contained in a body and given favours by another … the claim you are making is ridiculous.

This thread is already derailed … but don’t worry I’ll continue answering inshaAllah