I never said that... I said, they are unable to give due attention to the kids. Kids deserve FULL time (maybe more) attention, if you need to work, if you need to CUT on something, cut on your work and need to be "out" and "independent" crap. You signed your independence off when you uploaded that child.
^ Children aren't "uploaded" like digital files. You may need a quick biology lesson.
Aside from that, your tone has been insulting from the start toward women who work. It's not about explaining to them your concerns. It's about accusing them of being selfish and materialistic. All that does is show how little you understand the situation.
Okay yeh lets cuts on the kids education; lets not send them to college so I can stay home with them and give them 1000% of my attention 24.7 nahee 24.8
So then when the kid does have to go to school and leave mommy he’s panics and passes out.
Kids need to grow and learn to be independant.
Moms don’t all work for thier luxuries… those went out the window “when we uploaded the kids”
You’re really making some not fully thought out assumptions.
Either you’ve closely seen a very terrible case of a working mother or you’ve been around all the wrong types of women.
No, jaan leva. Infact I've just gotten into work..
my thread in regards to giving quality time to my daughter, did not imply that i dont have any time for her. It meant, that I was feeling like i wasnt giving her enough time, but thats due to a few other chaotic things happening.. like her school timings.
You know, I would love to put a mix of a few kids and mothers infront of you and let you decide for yourself which kid is unhappy or which mother is not giving her time to raise her kids to the best of her ability. I am sure you prob wouldnt be able to pick it out... cus lets face it, you really dont know... and on top of that, any good mother could be having a bad day... we all do.
Look, we could all possibly do more than we can. Yes, maybe. And yes, you are right, if there was no work, I'd be less tired and have more time to sit and play with my daughter. But, having said that... (as ive done that too), I know we are both happier while im working. We're both tired... but happy, Mashallah.
And i apologise for sounding stressed.
It's not nice to be told that i may not being doing a good job as a mother... when I know i am
ooooohoooo i am not being judgmental, its the nature of the beast. When one parent is making the sacrifices, the other one needs to hold down the fort. Thats where mother's *responsibility *comes in... look after the kids while the pappa-bear is out gathering and hunting.
khair, you have your opinion, I have mine, nothing wrong with having an opinion!
Sadzz,
then you are already stressed. You know, I just made some chai (oh no, I am doing woman's work!!!), want some? It will help you relax and actually help you get that work done.
so what else should he be doing while he's not sacrificing his precious time?
thanks for the chai offer (not that its a woman or a man's job), but i've had mine :)
i really dont know what bubble u live in. But, good on you if you marry someone who has the same thinking as you do... and yes, im pretty sure that wont be too hard to find.. there are many... MANY females out there who share your opinion. Unfortunately.
sigh...ok...i know this is going to be wasted breath/words/brain cells on my part, but **as the child of a mother who worked not 1, but 2 jobs to put food on the table and a roof over our heads because my father did not/would not work, let me just say that you my friend are waaaayyyyy off base....it is possible for a women to raise succesful children while working out of the home because i am the daughter of a mother who managed to still cook dinner every night, bake my birthday cakes every year, sew all of my eid clothes, show up at my school functions, help me with my school work, teach us urdu & arabic, suras & Quran **while being the sole/primary source of income for our family.....
you may now return to your warped, narrow minded, cheap trolling nature.....
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Of course he is, see that's where the feminists are wrong. Ever since the evil feminist movement took hold, and took the women out of the house, we are not producing great leaders or healthy, socially responsible people.
Khattichic, that is the problem, a woman pushes her limits. You cannot work 10-12 hours a day, get stressed out at work and then take care of the kids as they ought to be, its just not possible.
I wish, feminist extremists would look at the subject as whole and not resort to name calling. There is nothing narrow minded about believing in a traditional family system and not agree with the system which sacrifices the well being of the kids so mother and father can "up" their living standard/style a bit. Sad.
Khattichic, that is the problem, a woman pushes her limits. You cannot work 10-12 hours a day, get stressed out at work and then take care of the kids as they ought to be, its just not possible
What are you talking about??? Did you not understand a single word of my post?? There are plenty of women who work because they HAVE to...because their husbands DO NOT or WILL NOT and they need to feed their children, not because they want more money for manicures/pedicures and waxing..have you never heard of a single mother? Are you saying those children are automatically destined for failure? Sheesshhh.....enough with the women bashing, because you know what..two can play at that game. I just may have to start a thread on the evil, two timing, insensitive good for nothing men who just happen to be fathers.
I should've offered the chai to you too... itna gussa? itna stress? Relax and take it easy chanda...
I think you should open up to opposing opinions and view points a bit more... with that kind of extremism (feminist chest thumping) oozing out (almost like a sickness), how can we have a healthy society when significant part of that society is hell bent on multi-tasking the kids? And I can't imagine the effect on the kids such extremist, "women" focused attitude could be having. :(
What are you talking about??? Did you not understand a single word of my post?? There are plenty of women who work because they HAVE to...because their husbands DO NOT or WILL NOT and they need to feed their children, not because they want more money for manicures/pedicures and waxing..have you never heard of a single mother? Are you saying those children are automatically destined for failure? Sheesshhh.....enough with the women bashing, because you know what..two can play at that game. I just may have to start a thread on the evil, two timing, insensitive good for nothing men who just happen to be fathers.
Utopia does not exist.
he really doesnt get it.... completely missed the point of your post.
My mum worked for a good 11 years when we migrated here to help my dad... and my dad's the first to say that if my mum hadnt worked, he doesnt know how we would have done it. She worked crazy hours... but came home every evening to make us fresh dinner... EVERY night... i dont recall a day where we didnt have food or care.
he really doesnt get it.... completely missed the point of your post.
My mum worked for a good 11 years when we migrated here to help my dad... and my dad's the first to say that if my mum hadnt worked, he doesnt know how we would have done it. She worked crazy hours... but came home every evening to make us fresh dinner... EVERY night... i dont recall a day where we didnt have food or care.
I DO get her point, thats what I said. I do understand that but what I said is that mother has shifted her responsibilities to more material things and kids are not her only priority anymore. I wish I would get same type of "DO GET YOUR POINT" but we have certain obstacles or whatever thus need to work full time and part time the kids. But what do I get? Extremist feminist crap. Snap out of it.
