Respect for Durand Line: A must for peace in Afghanistan

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question - can u read english. Im not pakhtun, my mum is pakhtun and i hav pakhtun friends and cousins and im tellin u,..., pakhtuns dont like afghans. Anyways, now that thats done, back to the security barrier, yes, afghans should be unconditionall wiped off the map of pakistan. ameen.

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Let me make it clear that when I say something about Punjabis, that is in political sense. As an ethnicity, I've all regard for Punjabis and consider them as a respectable and friendly people. Pakipatriot, Amorphous, etc. are some of the nicest members on this forum rational and fair.

Moreover, there is no difference between Pashtuns and Afghans. Afghan and Pashtuns are two terms used for the same people.

Dear SayePk, that is because of internal rivalary and competition among Pashtuns.

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i would disagree with that, u cannot say that afghan is synonymous with pakhtun as there are more pakhtuns in pakistan than afghanistan. If anything, pakhtun should be synonymous with pakistani. Afghan should be synonymous with uzeb or takij or whatever, homeless poppysmokers, whatever u want but definitely not pakhtun.

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Thank you last wrora they will try to bring division amongst our proud afghan name. No matter what they say we are proud of our afghan name. Pakhtun/pashtun/Ethnic Afghan.

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yes yes and u are white anglo-saxons and u are the supreme rulers of the planet xarbox, yes yes, just leave us alone u stupid afghan.

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2paki I doubt you have pakhtun in you. In fact forget that, do you have any decency? Please do research, and then argue. Now if you have anything mature to say go ahead, otherwise stop wasting time.

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lol, im not gonna say anything, dasbz, u should talk to ppl ur own age - ie 3yr olds who have the brain size of a baboon, ie urself

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Mr 2Paki, Afghan=Pashtun and Pashtun=Afghan that's simple and obvious to grasp, even for a baby. Whether you accept it or not, that fact will stand. What is Pakistaniyath? It is mere a citizenship label that you carry on your passport and documents-nothing more than that. Ultimately everyone is a Sindhi, or Punjabi, or Pashtun, or a Baluch.

Now swolve this fact and stop being delusional.

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OK! Afghan=Pashtun and Pashtun=Afghan. Happy now?

In fact you could right Afghan=Pashtun and Pashtun=Afghan and Afghanistan = Mars and nobody will give a hoot.

Go back to the head of the thread and see the point. Durand line must be respected in order to bring peace in the "region". Who is majority around the Pak-Afghan border?

???

You got it. They are Pushtoons. If they respect the border, and there is peace, then who will reap the most benefit?

  1. Marsians,
  2. Lunarians,
  3. Pushtoons

And the answer is?

??

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Yes bubba! #1.

Just kidding. it will be Pushtoons who will be safe from the Talibanic Mullahtic plague.

So let us all pledge to one thing. "Respect the Duran line", "Respect the Pak-Afghan border".

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Has someone ben taking logic classes at college? :D

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No comments so far on the Pushtoonistan map printed by Afghans.

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^^ Still no comments by Kabulis. See the map and realize how cunning commies wanted to divide Pakistan while keeping the durance line intact.

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Pushtoonistan? there is no such a thing.. pashtoons are all afghans.. lolzzzzzz… pakistani pastoons??? :rotfl: now thats funny!!!

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no offence.. but a real pashtoon will never marry a paki.. iam sure you know that afghans are not so fond of paki ppl..

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Of course. And the “A”, or rather, the “Alif” in Pakistan is for Afghan.

Pakistan was created as the homeland for several ethnic groups, including those pashtoons/afghans who chose to live under British rule and stayed on to be loyal Pakistanis :slight_smile:

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And yet millions of pashtoons are happy to live throughout Pakistan, hold Pakistani nationality and passports, work for the pakistani government. Hundreds of thousands of Pashtuns even fight and die for Pakistan. This even includes siding with Pakistan against other pashtoons. The entirely pashtoon South Waziristan Rifles and Frontier Force Regiment are even as we speak fighting to establish the authority of the Government of Pakistan against rebellious pashtoon tribes.

Yup.. there are millions of pashtoons who are proud be Pakistan and serve Pakistan, and the rest of Pakistan is proud of them.

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I agree with you, there are plenty Afghans in pakistan but they are only there to to work and to get a good education .Just because they live there doesn’t mean they are happy. I used to live in Pakistan. and my family was really rich and we didn’t want to leave right away. anyways Iam sure that after a few years all Afghans will be gone from Pakistan and everyone will be happy.. InshAllah..:slight_smile:

Afghans are willing to die for pakistan?.. don’t you think you are just over exaggerating..:

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As I mentioned, the Frontier Force Regiment, one of Pakistan’s 4 infantry Regiments, recruits Pashtuns as its enlisted men (the officers come from all over Pakistan). The regiments men have fought and died loyally for Pakistan thoughout the wars.

In 1948 during the kashmir campaign, 5th Battalion The Frontier Force Rifles suffered 21 killed and 37 wounded.

At the battle of Buttur Dog***** in September 1965, the 3rd Battalion of the Frontier Force Regiment had 67 enlisted men, who would have all ben Pashtun, die in action and 103 seriously wounded.

The pashtoons of the Frontier Force Regiment did much of the fighting (and the dying) throughout 1971 in East Pakistan, fighting a hopeless war for no reason other than that is what Pakistan asked of them. The commander of 6th battalion of the Frontier Force, Major Shabbir Sharif, won a Nishan-i-haider for his actions as the pashtuns attacked an enemy fortification.

That’s just a handful of cases, and focusing on Frontier Force units alone. Almost all of Pakistan’s military are either Punjabi or Pashtun in ethnicity, and Pashtuns serve in large numbers throughout all the units of the army, including the Punjab regiment and the Baloch regiment. In total. Pashtuns form well over 20% of the Pakistan army - more than 1 in every 5 men who fight and die for Pakistan have been pashtuns.

Wherever Pakistan fights and Pakistani blood is shed, mingle with it is the blood of Pashtuns who put their loyalty to Pakistan first.

Even if you look at today’s fighting against rebellious Pashtun tribes in Waziristan, you will see that the vast majority of the soldiers on the Pakistan side are from the Frontier Corps and South Waziristan scouts - local Pashtun soldiers. They are fighting rebel pashtuns, and dying and being martyred to ensure that the authority of the Pakistani government extends over all Pashtuns living within Pakistan.

This isn’t just a job. It’s life or death. If these heroic and brave pashtuns weren’t proud to be Pakistani, if they didn’t think Pakistan was worth dying for, they would not go out there in Waziristan day after day and stare death in the face, they wouldn’t go out there and kill for Pakistan, they wouldn’t go out there and die for Pakistan.

Given that these are the same men who patrol Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan, it would be easy for them and their families to leave pakistan, to support and live with Pashtuns on the other side.

Instead, they choose to stay and choose to fight against and kill those Pashtuns who fail to recognise Pakistan’s authority over them. :salute:

These Pakistani Pashtuns are true heroes. I salute them.

And I also salute the hundred, thousands, of brave pashtuns who have put on the uniform of Pakistan, fought for Pakistan, and died for Pakistan in 1948, 1965, 1971, all the lborder conflicts between, and on the UN deployments abroad.

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They seem pretty set on sticking around, and frankly, given that they’ve proven time and again that they are happy and proud to be pakistani, they are welcome to stay.

In 1951, the population of the NWFP was less than 6 million, almost entirely Pashtun.

By 1972, that had increased to 10 million.

It’s only ever gone up from there. Pashtoons have been part of Pakistan since the very beginning, they have led Pakistan (Ayub Khan was Pashtun) and in fact, more Pashtuns have always lived in pakistan than in any other country - thanks to Britain, that annexed the most heavily pashtoon populated areas and then gave them to Pakistan.

Pakistan’s pashtoons are not going anywhere. They are Pakistani to the core and have been pakistani since the very beginning in 1947. They have left a legacy of sacrifice and dedication in advancing the cause of Pakistan over any other.

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All i hear these days is that rant abt Punjab and Punjabis.Im not sure what ppl want but back home in punjab,we didnt think of ourselves as punjab and punjabis and others as pathan and sindhi.Heck i can bet Lahore was the only place where ppl were told specifically not to converse in their own provincial/local language,punjabi.
it was all abt being Pakistani.but out here u run inot other ppl who want to know ur background before ur name,its really sad.
Our problems arent due to one province or its people.look around,ull find the same corrupt leader in every community and society,it isnt like one race can claim piety over the other.Two muhajirs incharge right now,did anything change?NO.We had pathan generals,sindhi PM,so basicaly everyone had a shot but our corruption doesnt have a racial root,its a naional disease which requires a national solution.but these same ppl want to keep this issue of nationalism alive.