Just because I don't follow a particular religion doesn't mean I am denying it or disrespecting it in any way. It only means I as an individual have made my own choice to follow something that I personally find is the true word of God. I have more Hindu friends in real life than Muslims & majority of my Muslim friends are of different sects.
Things don't read well when we start questioning & mocking others beliefs whether we find logic in them or not. That is just distasteful.
If my quoted post offended you in any way I apologize for that.
Re: Religious miracles with possible scientific explanations
I would give the quran the bible and the Gita same credibility. Which would be zilch when it comes to Science.
"I am not challenging the authenticity of any religious miracle. All I am saying is that if a similar event happen today, how will you explain it using logic."
I would challenge the authenticity of miracles from ANY religion. Religion is simply matter of faith. It is dangerous, check that, lethal to find scientific reasons for perceived miracles origination from religious beliefs / superstitions.
so hanumana flying without wings is not word of god according to your view so you treat ramayana as a mere fictional novel?
Re: Religious miracles with possible scientific explanations
Oh Southie it still reads fine :)
Just because I don't follow a particular religion doesn't mean I am denying it or disrespecting it in any way. It only means I as an individual have made my own choice to follow something that I personally find is the true word of God. I have more Hindu friends in real life than Muslims & majority of my Muslim friends are of different sects.
Things don't read well when we start questioning & mocking others beliefs whether we find logic in them or not. That is just distasteful.
If my quoted post offended you in any way I apologize for that.
That was a beautiful post. Your religion has taught you well. Much respect.
And my apologies - for reading your post wrong. Wont happen wrt you again.
Re: Religious miracles with possible scientific explanations
If they happen now two things will happen:
a) People will say its fake
b) We will try to explain it using logical means
I can both happening at the same time. Those who will believe will believe, those who won't will dismiss it.
It all comes down to belief. I don't think Religion and Science answer each other, I agree with pwner on that. One is based on faith, the other is based on observation and hypothesis and, testing that hypothesis and seeing if it is valid or not. There is no room for faith in the second one.
This.
If something were to happen today.....I believe we would look for a logic explaination UNLESS there is a reference of the 'miracle' in one of the holy books........then like others have said, those that have faith will believe and those that don't will try to find other explanations
Re: Religious miracles with possible scientific explanations
shaikh damat barkatuhum is topic per ik bohat achee book ka nam batatay hain bilkul zyahan say nikal gya
us kitaab main author nay isee per behas ki hay k woh kon kon say maujizaat hain jo ummat-e-muhammadia asbaab say hasil ker sakte hay or woh kon kon say maujizaat hain jo asbab say hasil nahi ho saktay
Re: Religious miracles with possible scientific explanations
And who will be right in your opinion
That is a hard question to answer. I guess it will depend on what the specific 'miracle' is and the situation around it.
Let me try to explain it using an example, I'm not sure this is exactly a miracle but close enough:
Growing up I have always heard the hadith about the Sun rising from the West as a sign of Judgment day. Now I know some people may not believe in hadiths or this particular hadith but just go along with me here. Now if one day I wake up to the Sun rising from the West or I see it on the news all over the world.............what would be my honest knee jerk response? Would I try to find a logical scientific reason how this happened out of nowhere? Or would I run, find a jaanmaz and start praying my heart out?
As much as I would like to think I am a woman of science............I would do the latter. Because at the end of the day, I believe. I have faith. For me that risk wouldn't be worth it.
Do I believe that the person who tries to find an scientific answer behind such a phenomenon is wrong? No not necessarily. Because if enough time has passed I would probably due to same............but my knee jerk response would be to believe.
Re: Religious miracles with possible scientific explanations
Science as we know it came after Allah's creation. To use science to explain everything in creation is like saying Allah depends upon science or that Allah is limited by the very laws of nature that He created in the first place. The one who created the laws of nature can also break them.
Surah Fil is one of my favorites because it reminds me that Allah can do anything. When the event of the destruction of the elephants took place, it was such a huge deal that all the Arabs...regardless of religion...used it as a frame of reference to keep track of other events (births, deaths, age, etc). For example people would say...such n such an event occurred x number of years before or after the Year of the Elephant. So, regardless of how the destruction took place from a scientific perspective, the event was just so spectacular that...like the kaaba....it was like a focal point for the Arabs irrespective of creed.
Who knows how big those "pebbles" were, or how many of them were pelted, or from what height, or by how many birds. Allah has also saved people in less dramatic ways, such as the instance of the youths who were put to sleep for centuries in a cave. What I find even more miraculous is human creation itself. Or even how a seed...which looks like nothing...can yield a plant. Or the sun...how we depend upon it for survival but it's not us humans who control its rising and setting. There is a system or order in place that we neither created nor control.
Re: Religious miracles with possible scientific explanations
one gram of Antimatter annihilating with one gram of matter(minimum amount) produces 180 tetrajoules (approximately 3 times the bomb dropped on Hiroshima)
one gram of Antimatter, weight is much less than that of a single pebble