Religion

brings so much misery to people.

why do you think this is so?

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Due to Perception!!

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My point of view is a little different than some of the biased historians who have propagated such thoughts.

A fair historian would never impose his bias, ideas, or beliefs upon the reader. Historians' job is simply to document the events that occurred and how they occured and not to judge the intentions or motives of people behind any event. It's the job of a reader to read them without the glasses of bias and assess what actually happened. Problem occurs when the readers are influenced by the personal opinions of historians.

Back to the topic/query:

I believe it's not the religion that brings misery to people. It's people themselves who bring misery upon them, sometimes by not accepting the religion and sometimes by mis-interpreting religious teachings.

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Before you even get an answer from someone logical, this happens:

It's not the religion, it's the people!

What does that mean?

It's a fallacy. It's easy to point to not denounce responsibility by simply discrediting the accused. It's quick and effective way to distance oneself from damage too.

Where did the fallacy originate in modern time?

Probably as old as religion itself. But it's known as the no true scotsman fallacy.

What is the no true scotsman fallacy?

person a: bill eats haggis with hot water.
person b: well haggis isn't eaten with hot water.
person a: but he lives and was born/raised in scotland!
person b: Well that's because bill is misguided and isn't a true scotsman.

EDIT: HOOOOOLLLYYY CRAP. someone beat me to the fallacy. Honestly didn't even see the replies!

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and how do you come to this conclusion? Why do you talk w/o knowledge? Is your intention just to pinch and throw in assumptions with a bad taste to make up your day? If it has brought misery to you, you don't need to generalize. Speak for yourself and then think where and how I failed.

Religion does not bring misery, it's brings peace to everyone, there is a manual out there. Use it and don't throw baseless assumptions infront of the audience.

@Dr. Lulworth

Can you blame the computer if you have not plugged in the power cable? Look what a senseless example you bring in for fallacy. Why did you not answer my counter arguments in the Science vs. God Thread?

you can answer them here.

Is it the fault of Faith if it's not allowed in Science? I have the opinion that Faith is very much used in Science, but it's told it's not. We call something what we can't explain "Miracle"...We had to believe in a God who wants peace for Man and this is what we don't want to attribute to him. Because that would force a 180 degree turn from us and we are not ready for it. That's the point.

You call yourself logic. Very logic to judge a Book by it's Cover. Why did you study books of science with such a desire and temptation and did not study it by it's cover? What logic is this when Faith is not allowed in Science? Can you answer these?

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how about we remember that we should be practicing tolerance and patience during this Blessed month, even if that means reading something that may differ from our own beliefs? is that not what keeping a 15 hr+ roza is about?

oh noes! silly me…fasting is just about pakoras and rooh afza! :smack:

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humans do all sort of things....... for all sorts of reasons..... you want to relate all bad to religion....sure.......but things can't be correlated in black and white as such.

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Define 'religion'

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Dearest Mr. bigboy,

I spend most of my time living life in the real world and having fun, and not on paklinks. Honest.

As to your question, son, I am not sure what you are trying to ask. Maybe narrow it down? Perhaps message me privately?

I don't call myself "logic." I am unsure what you even mean there.

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Peace philosophy

'Religion' brings so much misery to people because those people to whom 'it' has brought misery have misunderstood religion.

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**What do you want to say with the bold statement?

**You said: "Faith is not allowed in Science." - My question is, why?

Did you study books of Religion with the same passion you studied books of Science?

Do you actually know what you are talking about?

Please answer all questions. Thank You!

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:hmmm: Thread title should be

“Atheism”

brings so much sex to people.

why do you think this is so?

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Brother I don’t want to interfere in your business, but please do not apply the ways of people who don’t share our opinion. There would be no difference between us and them. Our duty is to make a difference, otherwise we would fail to follow the Holy Prophet (saw), what we claim to do. Thank You :slight_smile:

You may have heard this sentence: “first they drag you down to their level and then they beat you.” So watch out.

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Thanx 4 ya advice :hat: But they wish they can beat me :faris:

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Everyone can beat you and me if we don’t watch every step we make. So never say “No”. Stick w/ the topic. We can discuss via PM if you like :slight_smile:

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oky :)

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LOLLL. soch k bolna chaiye. the most dumb statement on gs.

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LOL. soch k bolna chaiye. the most dumb statement on gs!

Now you see, LKK just copied your statement.

And you rightly laughed, but indirectly laughed at your statement too. :p

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sometimes I think certain people have not left Kindergarden.

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heheh. all the uncles are so offended and defensive :cb: chill out, its ramadan :wink: